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There hasn't been a 5s commercial either.



It was never my intention to. But I suppose I think of it like this, the iPhone 5c is easier to make I suppose so that's why you can get one in 24 hours, but not the 5s.

Thing is I don't care from their end, I just want to know why they're not treating their devices as equals.

The lack of 5s units is down to limitations on the fingerprint scanner to manufacture the new home button. It's nothing to do with aluminium vs plastic.
 
I think you are wrong. I think next year they will release the 6...which will be a brand new design and the 5S guts will end up in a 5C case.

Agree that sounds like something Apple would do. I think you're right.

It is a stockpile though. I think the people who keep saying it's selling well though are lost because they're still on the shelves on launch day, meanwhile, not a 5s to be seen.
 
What I think is going to happen is that they're going to push the 5c for a good 2 years, soft firesale it and then discontinue it.

Every iPhone is sold for 2-3 years. In 2 years, another more powerful plastic model will be on sale.
 
Went to an ATT store this morning and they we offering the iPhone 5C to everyone that walked into the store. Apple has now excess inventory of a plastic phone that nobody wants and has none of the 5S that is what people wanted. Also, who would pay that much money for an unlocked 5C?

Myself and several other friends have already purchased a C model. What do you mean a phone nobody wants?
 
The 5C is going to be EXTREMELY popular with kids. Once these things get out in the wild, the 5C is going to blow up. They'll sell a butt-load of them.

I thought that as soon as I saw it. Teens will be all over it, parents will be all over the 5S. They are smartly fragmenting their own market to taste. Also, the only that will appeal more to younger crowds is the durable and more affordable solution making it easier for a parent to confidently buy it for a 14 year old.
 
The 5C is going to be EXTREMELY popular with kids. Once these things get out in the wild, the 5C is going to blow up. They'll sell a butt-load of them.

Most kids are just getting/have the 4 and 4Ses. They're wayyy cheaper, and look wayyy better.

You can't be $0 for those. You can't.
 
The 5C is going to be EXTREMELY popular with kids. Once these things get out in the wild, the 5C is going to blow up. They'll sell a butt-load of them.

As I mentioned in another thread, I was in my local apple store today and seen at least 7/8 people buying 5c's and they were all blokes bar one. None for screaming, excited kids.

Not to say 5c won't be popular with kids, of course it will be, but the appeal goes way beyond kids and I found the white model to be really nice.

I'm still getting a white 5s when my upgrade is due in March.

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Most kids are just getting/have the 4 and 4Ses. They're wayyy cheaper, and look wayyy better.

The 4 and 4s? Away and behave yourself and stop being so pompous.

The 4 is ancient and discontinued and barely handles iOS 7. And while the 4s handles iOS 7 well and is on sale still, kids will want a bigger screen and the brighter form factor. That much is obvious.
 
As I mentioned in another thread, I was in my local apple store today and seen at least 7/8 people buying 5c's and they were all blokes bar one. None for screaming, excited kids.

Not to say 5c won't be popular with kids, of course it will be, but the appeal goes way beyond kids and I found the white model to be really nice.

I'm still getting a white 5s when my upgrade is due in March.

I agree...many adults will love the 5C. But I think in the 30-55 range its going to be more the 5S, skewing from white in the younger demo and gold in the eldest. 5C will be more the teen to 35 range and women of all ages. Yes, there will be outliers. But for the most part Apple has much more completely filled their demographics model.
 
Trust me it is niche. The black and white will outsell the gold by massive margins and it has nothing to do with stock. I would be willing to bet black outsells white at least 2 to 1 if not more

Also, Apple is featuring gold most prominently simply because there was no gold last year and with same design in place gold appears "most fresh or new. Hence they show that although both the silver and black will outsell it.

They did same with 4 > 4s. Went from featuring black one to white one.
 
Even if it could be less expensive? The Motorola phones are made out of wood. But, the conversations I'm hearing is that Apple is a way overstocked with 5c's they have way more than they know what to do with.

I wouldn't be so sure. It is easier to mass produce, so perhaps they placed a big order upfront so that they had more flexibility with the 5s production now (such as to increase production of the gold 5s by 1/3 when it wound up being more popular than expected).
 
What would've helped sales would've been at least a more daring design. They didn't even change the design really.
 
What would've helped sales would've been at least a more daring design. They didn't even change the design really.

The 5C design is COMPLETELY different from the 5 and the 5S. How is it NOT a dramatic shift in design? Maybe you should go see one in person before making these judgement calls. I mean it's not shaped like a christmas tree or a lightning bolt or something extreme like that...but if you actually go look at one in person you will see it is drastically different from the 5S.
 
Sorry, I don't buy phones under contract. If the 5C was around $399 UNLOCKED I would be all over it. Now, for $549 there is no way I will buy it. For $100 more I get the 5S UNLOCKED. It may be a good buy for $99 on a 2 year contract but unlocked it is a terrible deal. Also, if everyone was buying it they would not be available everywhere in all colors like it is.

Myself and several other friends have already purchased a C model. What do you mean a phone nobody wants?
 
The 5C design is COMPLETELY different from the 5 and the 5S. How is it NOT a dramatic shift in design? Maybe you should go see one in person before making these judgement calls. I mean it's not shaped like a christmas tree or a lightning bolt or something extreme like that...but if you actually go look at one in person you will see it is drastically different from the 5S.

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Hmm.. drastically different?

So you feel the 5C has been discriminated against?

No. It's just that it feels like we can't get the 5s because Apple isn't as eager to sell those as they are the 5c.
 
I've learned never to judge a phone simply by hearing it's made of plastic. There's a lot of different look and feels in plastic phones. Some I find as cheap and unpleasant feeling as the stereotype (SGS3 & 4), but others are quite good. (I love my Lumia 925 and actually do like the look and feel of its plastic back.) Same material category, but two very different experiences.

My main point: don't judge it on the "plastic" alone, at least go and check one out, actually hold it. You may still dislike it, but there's a lot of different grades of plastic. It's also subjective of course....there are actually people who love how the SGS4 feels. It boggles my mind, but, different strokes....
 
Having no 5s and plenty of 5c the first weekend is NOT how Apple would have planned it. That means that there are losing potential sales. It's as simple as that.

The second question you have to ask is after 12 months, why would they plan to launch a new phone with such a lousy yield?

The 5c at $450 (free on contract) , the 5 at $550, and 5s at $650 would have moved more phones this weekend than the current lineup. Why would anyone buy a 4s at $450? No LTE, no Lightning and probably no iOS 8.

This was a perfect time to go all 16:9, all LTE, and all Lightning with A6 or better.
 
Well I only have anecdotal evidence from a friend who works at a phone shop, his experience was that they have loads of 5c stock and only 2 or 3 5s, now its only one shop so its very unreliable but maybe 5c demand isn't as high as apple thought it would be? Maybe demand for both phones isn't as high as apple thought it would be?
It's certainly still possible to buy the 5c for next day dispatch, but if i recall correctly every year the older model with the reduced storage was always easy to get hold of, it was only the new one that sold out.
 
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Hmm.. drastically different?



No. It's just that it feels like we can't get the 5s because Apple isn't as eager to sell those as they are the 5c.

So you think it should function differently in order to be a different design? It's still the same phone. You just kinda proved me right by showing that picture anyway. Take away all the useless function text and you will see the design is very different. Again, go into a store and pick one up and you will understand.
 
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