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Just was thinking. There hasn't even been a golden master version of the latest ios version. Guess it won't be released tomorrow. Honestly, I have not been following updates in general lately. Other than the flux like feature, sync mult watches and school device account type feature. I don't know what if anything is supposedly a big new feature.
They don't usually do GMs for non x.0 releases.
 
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Just was thinking. There hasn't even been a golden master version of the latest ios version. Guess it won't be released tomorrow. Honestly, I have not been following updates in general lately. Other than the flux like feature, sync mult watches and school device account type feature. I don't know what if anything is supposedly a big new feature.

I don't necessarily expect the products to be immediately available. We'll probably get a preview of the new features tomorrow with a demonstration of the multi-pairing of watches, along with the new watch color and band offerings (which is really the only any to make that kind of rumored limited offering palatable).

If Apple holds To previous pattern, the phones will be available Friday, maybe available for pre-order tomorrow as soon as the store is back up. The rumored iPad will almost certainly be a two-week advance announcement with a pre-order starting Friday.

So that gives them another week or two for the release update. On the other hand, all the new products have to be loaded with the new OS, so one assumes they will all be compatible at a minimum with whatever the iPad Pro was released with -- so no new features that all current iOS devices aren't already capable of ... Which shouldn't be a surprise since the rumored devices are all derivative of products already on the market. Kind of a shame really.
 
I'm really excited for the software updates...
You know, I wouldn't surprise me if Apple will use up some time showing iOS 9.3, especially regarding education:
http://www.apple.com/education/preview/

iPad sales could be a lot better, and the hardware won't boost the sales by itself, as it can be called an"incremental" update at best, especially if the cheapest version will become more expensive....

Showing off how an iPad with Apple's Ecosystem can be used and managed in the classroom might be more of a necessity than first thought...
 
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I think that the iPhone SE will be an extension of the currently line of iPhones, and should not be considered as an entry level. If the phone costs over $400 it is not an entry level phone. An entry level phone would cost under $200.

So you don't consider Apple's current three year old $450 iPhone 5s to be an entry level phone?
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You know, I wouldn't surprise me if Apple will use up some time showing iOS 9.3, especially regarding education:
http://www.apple.com/education/preview/

iPad sales could be a lot better, and the hardware won't boost the sales by itself, as it can be called an"incremental" update at best, especially if the cheapest version will become more expensive....

Showing off how an iPad with Apple's Ecosystem can be used and managed in the classroom might be more of a necessity than first thought...

I'll be quite surprised if the multi-user "educational" management capabilities aren't available to the home user.

Apple is having trouble getting existing users to upgrade. Offering those users who only have one iPad, who aren't in a particular hurry to upgrade, might just upgrade if it means an iPad which can allow them to share their one iPad with the rest of the family (as they currently do), and maintaining some consistency and privacy they don't have now.

That's another reason to have an event, with so little compelling rumored hardware, to showcase some of these new features, rather than just release an update and hope potential customers find out about them. I also imagine the multi-user technology will require more ram than previous models.
 
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They actually updated the iPod touch with pretty decent specs a little over year ago in the fall of 2014. I know because I bought one, and it's great. I love my iPod touch. It has an 8mp camera and fast A8 chip. Before that it was a few years since they updated it, and many people speculated Apple was going to discontinue it...but they didn't. The question is, will they update it again this fall? That I dunno.

Thanks for the reply, I didn't realize it had been updated that recently. It will be interesting to see if it gets updated again or if they will nudge everyone wanting an iPod Touch to go with an iPhone instead.
 
So you don't consider Apple's current three year old $450 iPhone 5s to be an entry level phone?
No that's just an old phone. And it ain't cheap either for such an old phone.

This would be an entry level phone:
✓ 4-inch screen
✓ 12mpx camera
✓ 6s hardware
✓ A9 chip
✓ Apple Pay
✓ curved glass
✓ 16 and 64 GB storage
✓ 802.11ac Wi-Fi
✓ Bluetooth 4.2
✓ Live Photos
✓ 1,642 mAh battery
✗ 3D Touch
✓ $400-$500

Nah, this rumor is too good to be true. :(
But Ming-Chi Kuo was wrong before.
 
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You have to laugh at how everyone says Apple will release X and not Apple will most likely will release X. So many people think they know Aplle netter than Apple itself. I'm not that full of myself to do that.
 
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Thanks for the reply, I didn't realize it had been updated that recently. It will be interesting to see if it gets updated again or if they will nudge everyone wanting an iPod Touch to go with an iPhone instead.

They will not likely update the Touch again. This last spec bump was an effort to get the Touch through 3 more years until this new SE can drop down to a comperbale price. That's why they didn't likely put Touch ID in it either ... Saving the flagship features for the iPhone upgrade.
 
Oh, you mean how the 6s has image stabilization? Oh wait, that's the 6s Plus. And the 6s Plus also blows the battery life of the 6s out of the water. Oh well, so much for the user experience being the same across the board.

I was referring to the software side of things. Hardware differentiation is expected especially considering the different sizes of phones Apple has available.
 
Thanks for the reply, I didn't realize it had been updated that recently. It will be interesting to see if it gets updated again or if they will nudge everyone wanting an iPod Touch to go with an iPhone instead.
It was updated in the summer of 2015 so even more recent.
 
I think this is one keynote I can skip. The products it's likely to focus on are not for me. I'm waiting for the "iPhone 7+". I already have an iPad Pro. I don't care about Apple Watch bands (I used the sport band with my SS Apple Watch until recently, when I picked up a black Milanese Loop on Amazon for $25).

I'll read the articles that come out in the wake of the presentation in case there's anything I missed. No need to be distracted.
-and then he gets curious and goes back and watch the whole thing-
[doublepost=1458495024][/doublepost]You know what makes keynote interesting? If they start doing "confession" part in keynote.
" hi, I have a confession to make. We are only increasing the price and selling same crap to rape your wallet. Isn't that amazing? Our new innovation....and we wanted to use pro to milk you out...like milk does body good."
People cheering.
 
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This is extremely disappointing. Numerous other manufacturers have introduced Skylake notebooks. At this point, Apple is a laggard. Frankly, I'm sick of hearing from Apple about their various content meisters, high flying deals, funky watch straps, fights with the government, and quests for Gay rights. What a bunch of nonsense. Get on with it and build cutting edge computers.
 
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Stop pretending one needs inside knowledge for everything. There is enough to be learned from the products and chips released last year. When you have a rough understanding of how much ARM and INTL differ today, you can predict ARM-based Macs aren't anywhere near. Plus this might not even be the future. Steve Jobs thought PCs were trucks and would only stay around for doing the heavy workload. The computational niche of an ARM-based Mac might as well be covered by a more capable iPad Pro with Smart Keyboard and Apple Pencil. Oh and that's what was released last year.

No one has pretended anything. The products and chips released last year were to run iOS devices. They have little to do with what Apple might put in a laptop or desktop, so aren't relevant in terms of indicating what Apple might be working on in secret.

Not sure why people assume Apple can't match or beat Intel soon. If Apple releases a car, it will be a car that can compete against other modern cars. It isn't going to release a car that matches technology that is years old and then play catch up for several iterations. Same with laptop or desktop chips: if Apple wants to build such chips, they will be modern chips that can compete with the market, they won't be chips designed for mobile devices.
 
You have to laugh at how everyone says Apple will release X and not Apple will most likely will release X. So many people think they know Aplle netter than Apple itself. I'm not that full of myself to do that.
Well, take a look at the "What to expect at Apple's XXX media event" articles over the last couple of years and check whether the products that were listed as 'almost' certain were actually released at the event. If somebody has a 100% track record on correctly interpreting published rumours (which would be Macrumors), I am willing to consider certain things to be a practical certainty. And who says we know think we know better than Apple what they intent to do, we are just rounding up probabilities to 100% for the sake of simplicity.
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Not sure why people assume Apple can't match or beat Intel soon.
The problem is not beating Intel, the problem is beating Intel by such a big margin that life code translation cost from x86 to ARM can be taken care of.
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This is extremely disappointing. Numerous other manufacturers have introduced Skylake notebooks.
Nobody has introduced Skylake notebooks with 28-W TDP, U-series chips yet to my knowledge. Of course if you think the 13" MBP should switch to the lower-clocked, lower-power chips used by the MBA ...
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Just was thinking. There hasn't even been a golden master version of the latest ios version. Guess it won't be released tomorrow.
Can you remind again when was the last time when a point release had a GM release?
 
Can't wait for iOS 9.3, it's been in the oven for some time now, time to take it out.
Hopefully it fixes some of the issues I've been having.
wonder why they wouldn't give us a teaser on iOS 10 !!!! This keynote so far is not worth they hype.. but who knows if apple will surprise us ......
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Tim Cook: iPad sales have been slowing down for the last few years, what can we do to excite customers again?

Schiller: why not lower the prices of the iPad or add something useful and unique to the new ones, something that customers may actually care about other than a $100 crayon?

Cook: great idea! A price change! Let's call it the iPad pro and charge $100 more for fun!

Schiller: oh for **** sake...
this was hilarious ..
 
In my opinion the MB has it's value. There are many many people out there who don't do much more than surfing the web or writing an occasional email. The MB is more than fine for those (though, they might get an iPad instead). At the moment the MB is especially one thing: a design statement. Nothing more and nothing less. Like the very first MBA.

I disagree. I use one for work every day. Granted, I'm a writer, so I don't need a ton of power. But when I'm at my desk, I have it hooked up to a larger monitor with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Actually, only having one port, then, makes it easier to unplug and get up to run to a meeting. The portability is amazing, it's great for travel, and the battery life is more than adequate.

Yes, it's a design statement and a proof of concept. But it's more than merely passable. It's workable. I haven't found a single "sacrifice" over an MBA or an MBP for my uses.
 
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No one has pretended anything. The products and chips released last year were to run iOS devices. They have little to do with what Apple might put in a laptop or desktop, so aren't relevant in terms of indicating what Apple might be working on in secret.
And there are you pretending there might be some secret knowledge unrelated to prior chip design. Ludicrous!
Not sure why people assume Apple can't match or beat Intel soon.
Because they are already advancing ARM chips as fast as possible. But that speed will slow down when they hit the same borders of physics Intel faces.
If Apple releases a car, it will be a car that can compete against other modern cars.
Ha ha ha, no!
It isn't going to release a car that matches technology that is years old and then play catch up for several iterations.
Apple has no idea how to build a car, nothing they did before prepared them to do it.
Same with laptop or desktop chips: if Apple wants to build such chips, they will be modern chips that can compete with the market, they won't be chips designed for mobile devices.
If they are not made out of hopes and dreams, they will be either ARM-based or AMD-based designs.
 
-and then he gets curious and goes back and watch the whole thing-
The only way I'd go back and watch the whole thing is if they start announcing a lot of stuff that we don't know about already.

Macrumors will create a headline topic for every section of the keynote, so I'll know what's in it. I know from past experience that I rarely go back and watch a keynote that I've missed. It's like watching the Oscars. I might sit down and watch it live (and enjoy it), but once I know the winners, I can't imagine sitting through it.

That's just me. I know people who will re-watch an entire football game, knowing how it ends. I wouldn't do that.
 
So you don't consider Apple's current three year old $450 iPhone 5s to be an entry level phone?
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I'll be quite surprised if the multi-user "educational" management capabilities aren't available to the home user.

Apple is having trouble getting existing users to upgrade. Offering those users who only have one iPad, who aren't in a particular hurry to upgrade, might just upgrade if it means an iPad which can allow them to share their one iPad with the rest of the family (as they currently do), and maintaining some consistency and privacy they don't have now.

That's another reason to have an event, with so little compelling rumored hardware, to showcase some of these new features, rather than just release an update and hope potential customers find out about them. I also imagine the multi-user technology will require more ram than previous models.

Correct, IMHO.
Having managed Apple ID's being able to use shared iPads (what about Family Sharing Apple ID's?), I can understand the hardware requirement being more than a base-level iPad 4 16 GB.

Maybe Touch ID will become a "requirement". Not the Touch ID itself, but the iPads / iPhones which have Touch ID are "big / fast" enough.
 
I'm actually more excited for the iOS update than anything else that will be announced lol.
 
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