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What to Expect at November's Apple Event: Macs With Arm-Based Apple Silicon Chips

Dozer_Zaibatsu said:
But if they did lock down their system like iOS, but one which also runs Xcode for Mac-based apps, I also suspect many people would defend it. "Steve Jobs said PCs are trucks and this is better because it's a tailored, curated experience. It's safer…"

Would developers complain? Obviously, it would backstab open-source.
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Actually the opposite. Open source pretty means anyone can download the source code, build it with Xcode, and run it on their own Mac. If it was harder or impossible to run closed source code on Macs, that would actually encourage the development of more open source apps.

Right now, that is the current method to freely distribute iOS apps completely outside the App Store: put an Xcode project for an iOS app on Github. Anyone with a current Mac, Xcode, and an AppleID can download the project from Github, build, and run it on their own iOS or iPadOS devices. So any iOS devices running stock iOS (e.g. not managed by corporate or school IT) are not really completely locked down.

$99 more for a dev enrollement, and you can even distribute open source apps to a few of your friends, family, etc.
 
phantom13 said:
Who would buy a MBP when they can get an iPad Pro with Mac OS
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People who want a laptop? You know, with a lid you can close, an integrated keyboard, etc.?
chad5871 said:
Anyone else still holding out hope for a 2020 Intel 16" MBP to be announced at this event?
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Announced, almost certainly not. Quietly introduced with a press release or just added to the store, I hope so.
 
chad5871 said:
Anyone else still holding out hope for a 2020 Intel 16" MBP to be announced at this event? I purposefully passed on the AirPods promotion in the hopes that we'd get an update this year as has been rumored for so long. Perhaps if one isn't announced, the 2019 model will be discounted?

I just need to replace my old 15" MBP and I'm not ready to make the switch to ARM yet.
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The CPUs Apple would use (Tiger Lake H-Series) haven’t been announced yet and unless Intel announces them tomorrow or the following day, I don’t think we’ll see a 16” Intel update until around March/April of 2021. AMD has no new mobile GPUs schedule for introduction and is putting all their effort behind the 6800/6900 series launch along with Zen 3, so Q1 next year looks about right for those as well.

Apple doesn’t discount. Find the 2019 on sale at BB or Amazon and pull the trigger is the best you will see this year.
 
Marco Klobas said:
Surprise?

Big Surprise.

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THe only BIG SURPRISE would be if they add user-upgradable RAM to the MacBooks!
 
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iJustines said:
I doubt Tim Cook has any enthusiasm to make the product more outstanding rather than just swapping the processor architecture.

I mean, some users succinctly pointed out that Tim Cook literally developed the product such as MacBook Pro to become less impressive and more costly.

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You forgot to mention user-replaceable DRAM. That is truly pathetic for 2,400 Macbook so called "Pro"
And useless touchbar.
 
sirozha said:
Macs will now have arms. That’s amazing.
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Hopefully they will have legs as well and show that for once they actually care about Apple users!
Since 2016 all MacBooks Pro have been a disaster (one of the worse products Apple ever designed).
 
iEMH said:
I am happy to hear that. Now let's hope one can use a MBP for as long as we are able to do now, rather than having it being due for replacement like the iPhone/Pad cycles in just a few years because the OS does not support some features in older models. Or new features that only work in new models.
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It has happened in the past with macs too. For example, handoff/continuity with limited functionality o flat out not supported on macs with older bluetooth modules. Regardless, I think one thing apple gets right, and doesn’t get much credit for, is keeping their older products up to date for a long time. Sometimes it’s a hardware question, rather than planned obsolescence.

Now, that trend may change, but if the last versions of iOS/macOS are any indication, I think we’re safe on that regar.
 
happygodavid said:
I have a 2014 15" MBP, and my work bought me a decked-out 2016 16" MBP. I use my '14 twice as much as the new one. I just can't get used to the keyboard, and it's the "new and improved" one. I look forward to a complete redesign; here's hoping the new keyboard feels better and isn't one step closer to typing on glass.
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They already fixed the keyboards across every laptop in 2020. 13" and 16" MBP's have Magic Keyboards and feel great to type on.
 
chucker23n1 said:
People who want a laptop? You know, with a lid you can close, an integrated keyboard, etc.?

Announced, almost certainly not. Quietly introduced with a press release or just added to the store, I hope so.
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To me an iPad is a consumption device whereas a laptop or desktop computer is a productivity device. Both have their roles and there’s some overlap.

I too was toying with the idea of getting a last-gen Intel MBP. We’ll see how the road ahead looks for ARM Macs in short order!
 
Apple TV PLEASE!!

4k 120hz with hdmi 2.1. More of a gaming platform (botw level game) for the new Apple Arcade users who just signed up for Apple One.

Good timing to launch while people are at home and game sales are through the roof.
 
happygodavid said:
I have a 2014 15" MBP, and my work bought me a decked-out 2016 16" MBP. I use my '14 twice as much as the new one. I just can't get used to the keyboard, and it's the "new and improved" one. I look forward to a complete redesign; here's hoping the new keyboard feels better and isn't one step closer to typing on glass.
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I have the 16" and still look for a 2012-2015 15" MBP MINT condition. The original MBA is a keeper and still around. Retina's nice but the old screens work fine too.
 
tangfish said:
To me an iPad is a consumption device whereas a laptop or desktop computer is a productivity device. Both have their roles and there’s some overlap.
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Right. Once you take the iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard (so, tablet, keyboard, mouse arranged almost in a laptop form factor), though, the lines become very blurry. It's basically a MacBook Air with more flexibility and (for the same reason) less rigidity.
tangfish said:
I too was toying with the idea of getting a last-gen Intel MBP. We’ll see how the road ahead looks for ARM Macs in short order!
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Yup. My Mac is really old now, and I'm hoping for one last Intel hurrah.
 
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ysl3000 said:
What is with Comet Lake H ?
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They could've used that like half a year ago and haven't so far, so I think they just won't.

It's not a very compelling upgrade. Tiger Lake or Rocket Lake would improve matters a lot. Newer microarchitecture, things like PCIe 4, etc.
 
chucker23n1 said:
Right. Once you take the iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard (so, tablet, keyboard, mouse arranged almost in a laptop form factor), though, the lines become very blurry. It's basically a MacBook Air with more flexibility and (for the same reason) less rigidity.

Yup. My Mac is really old now, and I'm hoping for one last Intel hurrah.
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Exactly. I‘m exited for today’s event for two reasons.

1. I hope this move puts an end to the awful thermal performance of MacBooks.
2. I hope this move will eventually lead to an iPad Pro with a macOS mode.

Quite frankly I’m so used to the touch screen of my iPad that I already occasionally try to use the screen of my MacBook as a touch screen. It is rather doubtful we’ll see anything about finally bringing macOS and touchscreens together today or in the near future, but the path towards it will be open.
 
I predict new Apple TV's with gaming console flare, and new Airplay 3.0 technology to blend Homepods into a proprietary Apple Surround Sound format, perhaps even with a homepod subwoofer. Although I feel such Airplay 3.0 ecosystem integration, will hinge on the synchronistic launch of a 5g enabled hi-res audio streaming upgrade to Apple Music. Hi-res audio may not be ready for primetime, but i could see the gaming console aspects of a new Apple Tv moving forward regardless of whether homepods are ready to go dolby with Airplay 3.0.
 
chucker23n1 said:
The event isn't for another four and a half hours, so…
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Yeah, but, tells you a little about their priorities when they’ll interrupt commerce for their ENTIRE site for the iPhone around midnight (depending on where you are) on the night before. :)

UPDATE: Annnnd now it’s down :D About an hour later than prior to other 2020 “events”.
 
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deevey said:
On point one, I agree, a FULLY working demo is problematic. But so is offering one in the first place can be equally so from a piracy point of view as many software cracks utilise a time limit bypass to unlock it forever.

Pretty sure though I've downloaded apps that simply came with a per minute time limit where you had to IAP which removed the limitation.

Emulators ... I suppose are a problem (as well as some other niche software) but a Mac kinda seems overkill for that particular task.

Locking down to app-store only would kill the MacOS desktop platform though.
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Some apps seem to be more sneaky when it comes to identify you. Maybe check your OS or something.
I remember DVDFab (a Blu-Ray / DVD ripper) allowed you to rip 3 discs before asking you to register.
Whether it was on Windows 10 or MacOS, wiping/reinstalling the OS before reinstalling the software didn't reset the counter.
Believe me, I tried... for, err, testing purposes... just for the sake of it, since I could practically do the same with MakeMKV.

(and, no, I didn't try to rip commercial discs. I wanted to rip discs from my TV recorder).

As for emulators, well, nobody's forced to turn a Mac into a dedicated retro gaming machine.
Indeed, that would be overkill, even with an entry-level Mini.

But for some gaming here or there on a multi purpose computer... let's say it's still nice to be able to install Retroarch, OpenEmu, or dedicated emulators for the time being.

My now defunct 2009 iMac, despite its old age and prehistoric specs, still allowed my daughter and I to have quite a lot of fun playing retro games (up to Saturn and PS1, which was quite surprising on such an outdated computer).
 
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