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What to Expect at WWDC 2017: Software Updates, Mac Notebook Refresh, New iPad Pro, Siri Speaker Possible
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Gee man, I like this line of ideas.
This is exactly the inspiration that's missing from the greybeards, naysayers or forum members adding just comma's or calling us trolls.
I would even envision a TouchBar to get Joni a.o. back on track (from dental floss boxes, talking trashcans that remain unavailable) to some compelling designs. Apple will be back in a few years, thanks to us visioneers !
See you at WWDC. I will be wearing my "Touch me Bar" T-shirt
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Apple once led. Now they follow. Amazon do the Echo. Apple want to bring out similar. Samsung do full screen phones with borderless cases. Apple will bring out similar in three months. Microsoft do the Surface - Apple want to thin out their MacBooks to compete. But before we get too cynical. They have brought out eight completely new products that no other competitor has tried to copy.
The iPad 'Pro'
The Apple Watch.
The Pencil.
The Touch Bar.
The Lightning Connector.
The Bluetooth-Only Headphone 'Port'.
The Trashcan Mac Pro.
IMacs with less ports and features.
Er ... that's it.
Hang on...
We are getting a newsfeed update regarding why the competition hasn't copied any of this ... what's that?
Oh. Right. Apparently it's because they're not really innovations. They're just pointless variations on existing and once highly functional concepts.
Not actual game-changing products like iPhones. IPads. IPods. FaceTime. MagSafe. IOS. IMessage. MAC OS. Magic Mouse. ILife. App Store et al really once were and why Apple got to where it is now. Those days are what us 'oldies' on here want to hark back to. And always hoping that maybe ... just maybe ... today will have heralded a return to those glory ...
No. Wait. There's more ... more news of what will headline the ... oh. No. Sorry. That was it. Ok. Oh well.
Anyway. Right. Where were we? Ah yes. Enjoy the show, everyone!
Apple once led. Now they follow. Amazon do the Echo. Apple want to bring out similar. Samsung do full screen phones with borderless cases. Apple will bring out similar in three months. Microsoft do the Surface - Apple want to thin out their MacBooks to compete. But before we get too cynical. They have brought out eight completely new products that no other competitor has tried to copy.
The iPad 'Pro'
The Apple Watch.
The Pencil.
The Touch Bar.
The Lightning Connector.
The Bluetooth-Only Headphone 'Port'.
The Trashcan Mac Pro.
IMacs with less ports and features.
Er ... that's it.
Hang on...
We are getting a newsfeed update regarding why the competition hasn't copied any of this ... what's that?
Oh. Right. Apparently it's because they're not really innovations. They're just pointless variations on existing and once highly functional concepts.
Not actual game-changing products like iPhones. IPads. IPods. FaceTime. MagSafe. IOS. IMessage. MAC OS. Magic Mouse. ILife. App Store et al really once were and why Apple got to where it is now. Those days are what us 'oldies' on here want to hark back to. And always hoping that maybe ... just maybe ... today will have heralded a return to those glory ...
No. Wait. There's more ... more news of what will headline the ... oh. No. Sorry. That was it. Ok. Oh well.
Anyway. Right. Where were we? Ah yes. Enjoy the show, everyone!
Indeed, though if you say that on these forums, most will get around that little issue by telling you it's NOT a stylus it's a Pencil
I've always been pro stylus.
Sure some things are great for fingers, pressing a large button.
But it's the same as in real life with real physical things.
Some things are fine for use with fingers.
When you need more finer control then you use a tool. A pen/pencil or a brush etc.
Only when you are a young child do you do finger painting, and you can't hold a pen to write with correctly.
Amazing why simple common sense can't be spoke by companies like Apple.
Finger input for some things, stylus input for finer control when suitable.
No they're not "plentiful".
There were WWDCs with various hardware announcements, and there were ones with none at all. If this WWDC has no hardware announcements whatsoever, some whiners will respond that it was a "disappointment" because the rumor mill insists on drumming up excitement based on little actual info.
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Indeed, though if you say that on these forums, most will get around that little issue by telling you it's NOT a stylus it's a Pencil
Jobs's comment was clearly about using such an input device for UI. It was about the UI always being easy to interact with using mere fingers, rather than requiring the precision of another tool.
The Apple Pencil, while it does allow some UI interaction, is almost entirely not about that at all, but rather about drawing. So it doesn't contradict that at all.
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Seems bizarre to me that you consider the Magic Mouse (really?) more of a game changer than the Watch and the Pencil.
I couldn't get more excited about what's being phased out next (magsafe, tactile keyboards, sensible magic mouse charging input, iPad mini, Airport, displays, Mac mini....(gets autofilled)
Diversity in the orphaned catalogue will never be better !
Now let's pray for the Salvators of the Headphone-jack Free World... who's cutting swords will make this day
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Yeah, whilst vigorously jerking my headphone jack.
And he confided me these huge conventions (with hardly anything to announce) merely serve as Mental Charities for the whealthiest.
As anybody realizes they don't deserve those stellar salaries, this mass adoration seems to reassure them and offer the energy to keep up until June next year.
Some indeed until Oct, when applauded for literally anything (lacking) they say.
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Hardware announcements listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Worldwide_Developers_Conference
Looks like a fair amount to to me!
You are correct, not every WWDC had hardware announcements... still, never did other Apple conferences such as AppleWorld et al.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Worldwide_Developers_Conference
Looks like a fair amount to to me!
You are correct, not every WWDC had hardware announcements... still, never did other Apple conferences such as AppleWorld et al.
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People have a "bad attitude " towards this event because that is all there is left to have. Product releases have been worse and worse year after year. We are not going to drink the kook-aid and pretend the world is sunshine and lollipops for the sake of being positive. No. It's Apples job to fix our attitude by making better products, not ours.
...where's the best place to watch this? I have the Apple Events page open, where it shows the WWDC 2017 banner.....
Seems like most are concerned with hardware for today. Software and services remain the biggest concern for Apple going forward. Lack of google search integration with maps and siri that renders both kinda useless. Lack of essential software. iCloud continues to be featureless. Photos needs work. Needs family storage option for icloud.
Hopefully we can see improvement here and even more integration between iOS and MacOS.
Hopefully we can see improvement here and even more integration between iOS and MacOS.
Here's hoping I'll have nothing to complain about after the event. I'm not impressed with the recent offerings, but hope springs eternal! Sure hope one day I'll see a class-leading headless Mac again.
That's a lotta hope...
That's a lotta hope...
If you're a programmer, my feature request about C11 threads being added was closed, and the engineer said to look out for it in Xcode 9; so I'm excited for that at least.
The Magic Mouse - at that time - was definitely a game changer; hell it was the first mouse to have multi-touch gestures.
Personally, I don't see the Watch or the Pencil as game changers.
I really like the Magic Mouse, even though its probably one of the least ergonomic mouse out there! The MM is largely unchanged from the original. Apple haven't even added Force Touch...
Android had smartwatches before Apple.
The stylus has been around for decades.
I'm not sure how a proprietary adapter is a good thing.
Motorola made an Android phone without a headphone jack before Apple.
Indeed, though if you say that on these forums, most will get around that little issue by telling you it's NOT a stylus it's a Pencil
I've always been pro stylus.
Sure some things are great for fingers, pressing a large button.
But it's the same as in real life with real physical things.
Some things are fine for use with fingers.
When you need more finer control then you use a tool. A pen/pencil or a brush etc.
Only when you are a young child do you do finger painting, and you can't hold a pen to write with correctly.
Amazing why simple common sense can't be spoke by companies like Apple.
Finger input for some things, stylus input for finer control when suitable.
I won't speak for anyone else but this point is brought up constantly, it makes no sense. Jobs' comment was within context speaking to using styluses with smartphones (I happen to agree with his point). Apple introducing a stylus with a *tablet* is not the same as introducing one for the iPhone. I think citing that difference is fair, and not about being an Apple apologist.
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Oh. Right. Apparently it's because they're not really innovations. They're just pointless variations on existing and once highly functional concepts.
I would but a few of these are pretty much impossible to get... like the Mac Pro TeaserSaw this over on reddit: Anyone want to play along during WWDC as a MR group in the live discussion thread?
