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Think we'll see Kaby based MacBook Pros, or will Apple surprise us and adopt AMD's new, and very competitive, Ryzen Mobile platform.

Although i am aware Apple are quite deep in with Intel's thunderbolt platform - Intel are going to start offering it as a stand alone chip, which means it can be integrated into, say, a Ryzen motherboard.
 
For iOS, I'm hoping for a revamped Music app, redesigns of a lot of the system wide design elements, a complete overhaul of iOS on the iPad, the ability to turn off all that crap that they added to Messages last year.

For OSX, I just want better memory management in Safari and overall stability. 7 tabs shouldn't creep up to over 2GB worth of RAM usage requiring a relaunch of the application every day. In fact, I shouldn't have to restart my Mac every few days to clear out my RAM and make my TimeMachine drive appear again. I left this **** behind in Windows. I don't want new useless features like Siri and the **** from iOS that I'm sure they'll add to Messages. I just want OSX to run as well as it did up until Yosemite.

Yep I'm gonna be disappointed. But at least I'll probably get new emojis to express my disappointment and some new "features" stolen from popular childish social media apps. Maybe some new Watch Bands...oh wait they get announced at hardware events right? Maybe a native fidget spinner app?

Hilariously accurate. Thanks for sharing
 
When will the huge announcement be for all the new dongles required to use the new Macs in today's world with pre-existing equipment?
Yes, I expect DongleFest:
- buy 25 dongles to get 1 free
- 50+ dongles to be exchanged for a hub
- those who want to connect their iPhone with a MacBook will have to fill out a 10 page questionnaire why they want that
- MacBooks buried in a forest of dongles can play a beep sound so owners know where to dig
 
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Think we'll see Kaby based MacBook Pros, or will Apple surprise us and adopt AMD's new, and very competitive, Ryzen Mobile platform.

What real-world benchmark do you have for your assertion that it's "very competitive"?

Because those chips aren't shipping. For months.
 
The fact that I don't give a crap about the WWDC 17 is making me sad and upset. I miss how it used to make me feel, the anticipation, and excitement, knowing that it was approaching...
Apple changed.
The world changed.
You changed.
I changed.
I miss the excitement I felt about the Jerry Lewis Labor Day Telethon when I was a kid.

If Steve Jobs were still giving the keynote, it would have been exciting for a couple of years longer (just for the novelty of seeing a dead guy giving a keynote), but it would still get old. Nothing earth-shattering happened after the iPhone. We were just still riding that high for a while.
 
What real-world benchmark do you have for your assertion that it's "very competitive"?

Because those chips aren't shipping. For months.

Well, Ryzen seems decent overall, though, yes, i've not seen any proper performance details on their mobile platform, and i guess Apple is fond of their "shipping within 2 weeks" thing.
 
Cook better not talk about Apple's iTunes "TV" content, such as Karaoke carpool. That has no place in a WWDC conference.

Showing of TV content in a WWDC will display Apple's lack of developer content and padding out time with unrelated garbage.
 
These keynotes are always sort of bla when I am not looking to upgrade. Conversely, when I am shopping for new hardware, I am always a bit let down. And afterwords I tend recap the whole thing to my wife (who is an apple user through and through), who shrugs it off as if I just wasted my time. And then I realize that most apple users are like her. They don't care. It's not a matter of surprises or disappointment. They just want something they can use.

We, as macrumors members, always have inflated expectations because we see everything that might happen, even though most of that is not possible in a 6 month timeframe. Imagine how disappointed we would be if we applied the same standard to Microsoft of Samsung.
 
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What to Expect at WWDC 2017? Disappointment.
Well yes.theres always that one thing folks expect that they don't get or it isn't done how they would do it. And they will make sure the rest of us now how Apple failed etc
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Apple TV with 4K please..

And 4K in iTunes. At least for movies. Plus support for h265
 
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We, as macrumors members, always have inflated expectations because we see everything that might happen, even though most of that is not possible in a 6 month timeframe. Imagine how disappointed we would be if we applied the same standard to Microsoft of Samsung.

We do have high expectations, but perhaps because it's Apple. And isn't that what Apple has always prided themselves on...surprising and delighting users with innovative hardware/software?

Perhaps not so much Samsung, but MS has been rather impressive of late. They've put out new (and some rehashed) designs that at least move the needle. I hope the dearth of new Apple products these past few months means they're going to blow our socks off on Monday. But I probabaly shouldn't get my hopes up. :)
 
However, I believe the two OS’s should reconcile how common tasks are labeled and performed. It’s confusing when one OS has more options than the other. For example, the Contacts app on iOS has a subset of the organization abilities of Contacts on MacOS. This is illogical considering that you likely add contacts when you’re mobile.

Photos is another example. Folks take more photos on their iPhone than computer so why is it we can only keyword etc on Mac OS.
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Wait til you ask about the invisibility of the calculator on any iPad.

Download one of the many free apps. Now really a big deal
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Tim Cook has said a lot of things. He said, Apple is not into making a toaster and fridge, referring to the Surface Pro. Yet, he got up on stage and launched an iPad Pro 12.9 inch screen, with supported accessories such as a Smart keyboard and pencil.

They were optional add one. Not requirements. Very in keeping with Steve's original beef about the PDAs at the time the iPhone launched

And the surface pro comments were more about the software than the hardware. Cook didn't see the value in trying to shove a desktop OS into a touch environment. And he wasn't the only one when Microsoft first started that. There were a lot of comments about how the desktop side was impossible to use.
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Cook better not talk about Apple's iTunes "TV" content, such as Karaoke carpool. That has no place in a WWDC conference.

Given that it's a software conference they better not talk about iPads etc either. Doesn't belong there

Or you know since it's their show they can do what they want. Although that said I doubt they will talk much about the content right now. Any mention will be to demonstrate something in the software. Like if they launch h.265 support. They might want to show a clip of something to show why it's a big deal. And what better than a trailer for their own thing
 
I think Apple is better able to lock down software so it doesn't leak. Also it seems like since Mark Gurman went to Bloomberg he's getting a lot fewer leaks. So either those leaking to him stopped, he's moved on to other things or Bloomberg has a higher standard for publishing leaks than 9to5Mac did.

Doesn't Bloomberg require news to be double-sourced? That in itself would prevent most reporting of leaks, but with a enormous increase in reliability.
 
These keynotes are always sort of bla when I am not looking to upgrade. Conversely, when I am shopping for new hardware, I am always a bit let down. And afterwords I tend recap the whole thing to my wife (who is an apple user through and through), who shrugs it off as if I just wasted my time. And then I realize that most apple users are like her. They don't care. It's not a matter of surprises or disappointment. They just want something they can use.

We, as macrumors members, always have inflated expectations because we see everything that might happen, even though most of that is not possible in a 6 month timeframe. Imagine how disappointed we would be if we applied the same standard to Microsoft of Samsung.
Imagine how exciting the iPhone 8 would be if you heard the details about it for the first time in September. Now we expect to see accurate mock ups and leaks months in advance. By the time we see the actual reveal, it feels like old news.

Those who complain to MacRumors (!) that Apple never surprises us any more deserve no sympathy for their self-inflicted ennui.
 
I want to see an upgraded 4K Apple TV. It's really time for that step, all of the new TVs are 4K but the Apple TV still has no formal support for any 4K content.
 
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Apparently per the IAMA - the MBA is discontinued; iPhone X will get wireless charging (finally Apple, finally)

To sum it up:
2017: Incremental TouchBar Macbook Pro update Incremental Macbook update Incremental iMac update Siri Speaker iPhone 7s, iPhone 7s Plus, iPhone X iPad (new third size)

2018 / 2019: Glasses (unlikely) New design iMac New design Macbook (keyboard update)

-- Credit

The keyboard update looks interesting. Smart Any Key with e-reader technology. I can now have an entire keyboard of emojis!

Siri Speaker will be delayed until late 2017 (so perhaps at the iPhone event) since they changed manuf. Maybe they'll give a preview of it on Monday.
 
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To correct you, WWDC is a *developer* conference, where software is a subset of a developer conference, as is hardware. If Apple introduce hardware that allows developers to develop against, or with, they will correctly reference it.

Given your example of h.265: that is clearly developer related, so Apple will mention it.

Yes, Apple can talk about what they want. Talking about clearly non developer topics (such as crap like Carpool singalong ) is an indication of lack of developer content and merely acts as fillers.


Given that it's a software conference they better not talk about iPads etc either. Doesn't belong there

Or you know since it's their show they can do what they want. Although that said I doubt they will talk much about the content right now. Any mention will be to demonstrate something in the software. Like if they launch h.265 support. They might want to show a clip of something to show why it's a big deal. And what better than a trailer for their own thing
 
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Apple always does the same, it makes fun of something they can't offer for sale.
Until at some later point they do make it, and try and forget that before they said it was wrong.

Remember this:


They hope no one remember this.... lol :)

Oh, they might do it in the future. I'm simply saying they haven't done it yet.

So when Apple does the same thing Monday, what excuse are you gonna find then? Let me just bite my tongue and sit back laugh next week.

I don't make excuses for multi billion dollar companies.
 
Cook has said a lot of things. He said, Apple is not into making a toaster and fridge, referring to the Surface Pro.

The surface pro is more of an oven / burner combo. It does two similar things not two different things. But Tim is, of course, ok with putting a burner inside the oven as seen by his iOSing of macOS.
 
That's a developer issue not OS. Such apps have been possible since the iPad first launched but if the developers don't do it that's on them

Apple does it too with their first party apps. The point is, if it's not worth the investment by Apple to make proper IPad apps, why would any third party—particularly when they are not just enjoying the profits from the hardware.

Apple needs to lead the way
 
Showing of TV content in a WWDC will display Apple's lack of developer content and padding out time with unrelated garbage.
Last year they wasted I don't know how much time on Apple Music nonsense and I'm not sure what it had to do with software development.
 
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