What to Expect at WWDC 2018: iOS 12, macOS 10.14, tvOS 12 and watchOS 5 But No Hardware

[Reason077]

If iOS 12 doesn't play the first song that I ever downloaded from iTunes every time I start my car, then it's a roaring success.

(I know every noise of Kayne West's "Can't Tell Me Nothing" by heart)

This is not an iOS bug, really. It's not iOS playing those songs, it's your car.

The car is enumerating the complete list of songs on your device (using some old iPod-era USB protocol) and auto-playing them itself. It really should be remembering your last played song and picking up from there, or simply give you an option to disable auto-play.

I don't really see how this is something Apple can fix, unfortunately.

 

[azz0r]

Been holding out this past month to get a new laptop, what date are we likely to get new hardware announcements this week?

Edit: Tomorrow @ 6PM (UK)

 

[jjudson]

Why do I feel like Silicon Valley's episode about the Flutterbug Mustache app was a parody of Apple's continual pushing of animojis?

 

[Spytap]

I would be very disappointed with no MBP refresh, but if it means waiting till the fall to get 6-cores and 32GB RAM then it's worth it. This 2015 MBP is on it's last leg with what I throw at it on a daily basis.

I'm willing to wait a bit as well, but I don't think 32GB RAM is on the table with the newer chips.

 

[Dorje Sylas]

Still waiting on that new modular Mac Pro we were promised in 2016. It's mind boggling to think that Apple's designers need 2+ years to re-learn how screws and sockets work, instead of just slapping industrial glue on every surface.

Mac Mini's all but dead, then.

Yep, and with it one of the better low-cost entry points to Mac/iOS app development.

 

[oyabroch!]

What to expect? Tim Cook, Craig Federighi and other Apple employees on stage, talking about Apple products. One would be prudent not to get worked up about what they or others HOPE will be talked about, only to have those hopes dashed (hint: it's not Apple's "fault" if they don't talk about something they never said they would)

 

[Jyby]

Science Rules!

 

[oyabroch!]

That Apple watch fastener always make me think of Sulley...

 

[liberte_vienne]

So I just looked up the 13" Macbook Pro Touchbar i5 8GB RAM 256 GB SDD - a configuration which is normally permanent available in the Austrian Store - delivery times up two weeks...

So I think, against the predictions of Bloomberg, refreshed Macbook Pros are on their way!!!

 

[EdT]

Late to this party, but here's what I expect.

Nothing.

Until I can use the software I'm not going to know if it's useful, and Apple has admitted there won't be any hardware news at this event. Software product announcements usually try to make it sound as if you can't live without new feature 'Y', and thats true no matter who is making the software. And if they are lying, and there is a hardware announcement, then once again until the product is released I really won't know if it's any good.

 

[Lioness~]

My Apple expectations has gone down, deeply, the latest years.
Can I hope for a minor surprise?
I don't really do.
But I will watch.

 

[SarcasticJoe]

I hope that I'm not the only one who's starting to feel like Apple moving to yearly updates for Mac OS was a mistake? Updates to it have either been really iterative (i.e unimpressive) or then they arrive long after they're actually announced or implemented in iOS (which is a derivative of MacOS).

External GPU support, the last "big thing", was announced at the last WWDC and didn't actually become available to the wider public until two months ago. Because of that eating up developer time I have a feeling that the next version of MacOS is going to be another really iterative release devoid of major new features.

Prove me wrong Tim... Prove me wrong...

Just once it would be nice if the audience just sat on their hands instead of clapping when Tim makes some big announcement about more animojis or watch bands. They have enough money to be working under the hood and (I guess) over the hood.

My understanding is that the reason why the audience claps at even the smallest things is because the audience at events like this are like 2/3 actual Apple employees. It's not like you're not going to applaud your own CEO or something that you've worked on yourself.

In all honesty, you'd hope that they'd ban filling audiences with your own employees who are there primarily to make interest and enthusiasm look greater than what it actually is.

 

[hajime]

My Apple expectations has gone down, deeply, the latest years.
Can I hope for a minor surprise?
I don't really do.
But I will watch.

Can I hope for TC to step down? I have never dislike any CEO of any company except for this one.

 

[Williesleg]

Makes it hard? Please.

Not Apple’s fault on your lack of creativity. Look inward.

Apple has the tools. User ambition is still necessary.

Hard to be creative when your best machine is really old and you're afraid to buy anything new because the keyboard is crap. And still way over priced, laggy software. Heck, open source is beginning to look good compared to what Apple sells these days. Go into the Apple store, the only people there are bringing broken crap back to be fixed. What happened to the Apple Theatre? Apple demo days? Podcasts? iWeb? iLife? Only people making money these days are PC people posting great stuff on YouTube. So sad. Apple doesn't even make a drone.

 

[Komodo Rogue]

I would be very disappointed with no MBP refresh, but if it means waiting till the fall to get 6-cores and 32GB RAM then it's worth it. This 2015 MBP is on it's last leg with what I throw at it on a daily basis.

Ugh, I was hoping that Bloomberg was mostly right, but that we'd still see a silent refresh. But the more I think about it, I fear you may be right. A silent refresh now, plus a bigger update in the fall -just like four months down the road - seems unlikely.

It's frustrating to me because I am in the market for a new laptop right now. Why won't apple plan their product launches around my schedule??? I'm thinking about buying a windows laptop to hold me over, but I can't justify blowing like a grand on a computer I don't want to keep longer than six months, that's insanity and I can't afford it anyway. Maybe I'll buy the 2015 15", but damn, $2k for a 2015 laptop is pretty insane...

Fingers crossed for a refresh!... But my not-very-educated guess is that we'll see an update in the fall with an 8th gen core CPU and a vega GPU.

 

[larmende]

(hint: it's not Apple's "fault" if they don't talk about something they never said they would)

You must be new to the internet ;-)

 

[jhudgins]

I’m all for Apple prolonging the iPad Pro providing it comes equipped with faceid 2. OLED “Super Retina” display would be welcomed, though that seems unlikely. Once Apple has a small iPhone (se 2 or whatever they call it) iPad Pro and MacBook Pro all with faceid 2 and Super Retina bezeless screens, I’ll upgrade everything.

 

[chrono1081]

no hardware??? how is this a surprise giving how Apple treated their Mac line for last god-knows how long...

New hardware usually isn't part of WWDC. WWDC is a developer conference.

 

[citysnaps]

Hard to be creative when your best machine is really old and you're afraid to buy anything new because the keyboard is crap. And still way over priced, laggy software. Heck, open source is beginning to look good compared to what Apple sells these days. Go into the Apple store, the only people there are bringing broken crap back to be fixed. What happened to the Apple Theatre? Apple demo days? Podcasts? iWeb? iLife? Only people making money these days are PC people posting great stuff on YouTube. So sad. Apple doesn't even make a drone.

Hard to be creative? Right. Blame your tools. Thats lame. Creativity comes from within, whether you're a musician, woodworker, photographer, graphic artist, writer, and on and on.

I have a 5K iMac and run Lightroom (I'm a photographer), Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro, Omingraffel, and Native Instruments Machine. Also run fine on my 2017 MBP.

 

[Dorje Sylas]

Because of that eating up developer time I have a feeling that the next version of MacOS is going to be another really iterative release devoid of major new features.

Frankly given the mess that was this last iterative 10.13 macOS, I'd be happy with them just staying on it and cleaning it up some more rather than pressing on to "new" things. But that's not likely to happen. The iOSified development cycle of the macOS is now policy, and we gotta get those Animoji integrated at the Root level ASAP! Forget security and stability.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Mac Mini's all but dead, then.

But the thread still lives on

Mac Mini thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...rtainly-coming.1681773/page-502#post-26112165

 

[developer13245]

Suggestion: Kill Apple Maps. At this point they suck so bad it would be better for Apple to bury their failure.

 

[Candlelight]

Despite craving an iPhone SE tomorrow, I don’t think it’ll happen. iOS 12 comes out tomorrow, but not released until September. Any phone from here on in would be geared up for iOS 12. Therefore it’s unlikely they’d promote iOS 12 as the best thing ever then release a product with iOS 11 on it.

 

[geromi912]

6-Cores is asking for a lot... Most likely you’ll get some Quad Core-AMD GPU hybrid from Intel.

6 core is asking for a lot? You can literally get a laptop with 6 cores for under 1000, but on a 2500 laptop is asking for too much? Get some self respect and dignity.
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Here's an idea...how about changing the name to macOS 11
Shouldn't 14 versions in 20 years warrant a bump up to a new version?
Then again, except for fonts and icons, the desktop experience has looked pretty much the same the whole time.

I'm not whining. Just being a wisenheimer.

2009 iMac 27", 2017 MBP 13", iPhone 6 Plus.......are these OK for this thread, peoples?

It's just like how microsoft said windows 10 will be the last version and it'll be updated forever

 

[Williesleg]

Hard to be creative? Right. Blame your tools. Thats lame. Creativity comes from within, whether you're a musician, woodworker, photographer, graphic artist, writer, and on and on.

I have a 5K iMac and run Lightroom (I'm a photographer), Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro, Omingraffel, and Native Instruments Machine. Also run fine on my 2017 MBP.

Not really, you are only as good as your tools. In fact, your tools often stimulate creativity. Your tools are supposed to help you, not stifle you. I'm seeing lots of Windows 10 around. Not so much Mac anymore. So stale. And Timmy Cook doesn't seem to care. Just give 'em more bug fixes.