This was the same argument Microsoft had when Apple announced the iPhone.
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What to Expect From Apple in 2023: AR/VR Headset, iPhone 15 Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac Pro and More
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Dude, seriously - drop it! We talked about resolution with your example and now you shift to OLED, mini-LED etc.?
If you can't have objective conversation and you just want to deflect to more nonsense than please ignore this and move on.
Don't change the discussion when I gave you perfect example of your flawed analogy.
1080 is not the same as 4K and thats what we talked about.
Or maybe you are not at all tech savvy so thats why you get confused with all this and think that 1080 or 4K is somehow connected to QLED etc. Its not - mixing completely different things here.
So, do you want to get educated or are we going to do circles in a non productive manner?
If you can't have objective conversation and you just want to deflect to more nonsense than please ignore this and move on.
Don't change the discussion when I gave you perfect example of your flawed analogy.
1080 is not the same as 4K and thats what we talked about.
Or maybe you are not at all tech savvy so thats why you get confused with all this and think that 1080 or 4K is somehow connected to QLED etc. Its not - mixing completely different things here.
So, do you want to get educated or are we going to do circles in a non productive manner?
There are loads of AR applications that are not game-oriented for both commercial and personal markets.
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This is a terrible, terrible analogy. Most of the things that those 1st generation products couldn't do were not things that no one could envision, or that the technology was impossible to achieve. They were just things that were too ambitious for a 1st generation product. All of the things they can do today are things that were envisioned, discussed, and simply a matter of time.
That is completely different from AR and VR! Completely.
With VR, there is a major discrepancy between the eyes and the inner ear. You CANNOT overcome this with a headset. The headset is the cause. The only way to overcome this is with a fully immersive VR environment that will for now be technologically impossible, and forever impractical for any consumer.
With AR, the experience is twitchy and imprecise. Nothing Apple has done over the last 6 years of ARKit has changed that at all. As long as AR is twitchy and imprecise, it is a non-starter for millions of applications, and there is no sign of improvement on the horizon. AR itself seems to be meant to be imprecise and gimmicky.
These are not time issues. These are not progress issues. These aren't even tech maturity issues. These are near impossible technical AND practical hurdles for which there is no solution...not even a fantasy solution. The sooner you get this, the sooner you can stop pretending that people are just missing something when it comes to the potential of these products.
And they are all nothing but demos and proof of concept. 100% of them are inadequate for any real or serious use, because the tech is poor.
I would love to see some major improvements to IOS. How about a redesign, or more integration with the other OSs and make everything consistent. I also think TVOS could use some changes or at least act like they still care about TVos because it feels like they do not, despite the Apple TV being the best streaming service. Also, Apple Music apparently now allows you to put curated playlists into folders for the Mac computer. I really hope that comes to IOS soon because it's useless if it doesn't. This article was talking a lot about the hardware and that's great, but I'm excited for the software and where Apple might go from here.
And 80% of the people will want it...just to say they have it....That is how USA works. I will be popular.
I can see that you don't seem to understand the tech either. There is tons of ways AR/VR can be implemented (either now or in the future) and tons of ways to 'predict' where we will go and trust me it will go far beyond that.
I'll gladly revisit your response in 10 years time and we can discuss the progress. Until then I can see that you don't want to envision the potential. Its fine, some see it some don't but thats life.
Lets talk later. ;-)
I'll gladly revisit your response in 10 years time and we can discuss the progress. Until then I can see that you don't want to envision the potential. Its fine, some see it some don't but thats life.
Lets talk later. ;-)
Not a chance. The Studio Display is barely 9 months old! Apple doesn't invest in R&D and introduce a new product only to "follow up" with something else in less than a year. Silly prediction.
You may not know know AR has been around for years and used professionally across a wide range of disciplines.
You guys need to stop trash vr, it is the next revolution just takes time to perfect it. As someone who plays table tennis since grade school it is absolutely amazing to be able to play it in vr on quest 2 with real people around the world at home with perfect 1:1 mapping to real world paddle control doing complex spins etc (game is called eleven table tennis), it’s literally what I dreamed of since wii came out, now that dream is fully realized and I play daily for a great workout.
The other games such as flight sim and resident evil, despite quest 2 shtty graphic, is also amazing, you can see where this is going once they are able to increase the graphic to photo realism like on the pc with better hardware, and also make the headset more comfortable like wearing pair of glasses instead of this huge heavy screen strapped on.
meta has gotten as far as they can under that idiot zuckerberg who insist on creating some useless metaverse or use it for work meeting instead of focusing on hardware upgrade and gaming.
it will be Apple to take this forward, their first version may be expensive and lacking just like the first iPhone, but the later iterations and games will make vr mainstream, it’s literally what they do…
The other games such as flight sim and resident evil, despite quest 2 shtty graphic, is also amazing, you can see where this is going once they are able to increase the graphic to photo realism like on the pc with better hardware, and also make the headset more comfortable like wearing pair of glasses instead of this huge heavy screen strapped on.
meta has gotten as far as they can under that idiot zuckerberg who insist on creating some useless metaverse or use it for work meeting instead of focusing on hardware upgrade and gaming.
it will be Apple to take this forward, their first version may be expensive and lacking just like the first iPhone, but the later iterations and games will make vr mainstream, it’s literally what they do…
Agree, but there are some businesses who will use it, not too many though, eg distance learning, remote troubleshooting and such.
Name mainstream applications outside of gaming please, things that I as the average Joe Consumer want/need to make my life easier/better, and am willing to pay $$$ for.
Please.
"Name mainstream applications outside of gaming please, things that I as the average Joe Consumer want/need to make my life easier/better, and am willing to pay $$$ for.
Please."
AR-assisted cardio thoracic surgery
AR-assisted home/building design and review
AR-assisted interior design
AR-assisted industrial plant inspection
AR-assisted insurance inspection and adjustment
AR-assisted classroom learning
AR-assisted vacation planning
AR-assisted property inspections
AR-assisted immersive museum exhibitions and education
AR-assisted assembly of various products
AR-assisted medical training
AR-assisted public safety (fire, police, etc) training
average Joe Consumer is not an early adopter with the tipping point of AR is a few years away yet.
I had an apple watch day 1. I hardly saw any around for about 1.5 years.... now everyone has them.
its the same thing, with maybe a longer period of development and improvement. We have to start somewhere you know otherwise nothing new would happen.
Thanks, I can see all of those, but, I asked for Joe Consumer type applications that will make ME want to buy one of those and in your list, most are for certain professionals but nothing is consumer level day-to-day that’ll entice me to spend $2-3k on a new device.
Again, I can see lots of applications but not for the average consumer day-to-day activities
Not arguing that, and as I said in my other post I see lots of applications that are unique, nothing for the average consumer (besides gaming).
20+ years ago I was working in a large semi company and we bought a Xybernaut to evaluate, was a great device, just way ahead of its time and utterly expensive at 10k, would have been phantasy if even back then for remote troubleshooting, learning and such but couldn’t justify the cost…
Instead of marketing it as ‘VR’, they should call it something like ‘The Apple Safe Space’. With customizable ‘Safe Skin’ software. Could have different versions, like ‘Woke’, ‘Woke AF’, and ‘Woke AF, SF Edition’.
I think this would be very popular with a large part of Apple’s demo.
No, the question you asked me, in response to my post, was:
"Name a handful please, I’d love to be educated"
There are a few in my list that are consumer oriented. There are more. Flex your imagination a bit.
I said this many times, but probably you missed it.
Basically, you should forget how you do things on your computer. The mouse will slowly disappear as an input method, replaced by eyes (pointers) and hands gestures.
If you haven't watched Minority Report, go watch it, cuz that's the potential we're gonna have with this headset.