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What to expect from iMac 2012 - Discussion
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Chill out guys, was airing my views/opinions. I use my iMac for heavy duty work so can't afford to wait around, if people chose to do that then fair play to them. Remember Ssndy Bridge chips being recalled early last year just as they were released? Apple recalling some iMacs due to HD issues? These are my reason as to why I don't buy things early in to its product circle. I'm not here to offend anyone just point out my reason for no redesign/not waiting, time will tell. Hope they do so you all can be really happy.
I'll join you in a year or do after the specs bumps to Haswell/broadwell and any problems have been rectified.
I'll join you in a year or do after the specs bumps to Haswell/broadwell and any problems have been rectified.
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2011 Mac Mini is not exactly a redesign. They only eliminate SuperDrive in all model. 2010 Mac Mini server looks exactly the same as all 2011 Mac Mini line, except now mDP port works as Thunderbolt, of course. Other than that, I can't really differ 2010 Mac Mini server vs. regular 2011 Mac Mini, appearance-wise.
What people need to understand is that Apple has a marketing plan to make people think the last refresh is way better than the previous product, which isn't the case for example on their page it says for the iMac up to 3x faster graphics Now anyone with common sense would know thats minimal gains and not worth ditching your previous gen iMac for.
As with the iPhone apple know's there are many people that will trade in for latest. Siri for instance, for me was not a massive jump for me to ditch iPhone 4 for 4s so i stuck it out and said i'll wait for the 5 as i wanted to see improvements from 4-5 as 4s-5 would be minimal gains speed wise, you would just see the redesigned product but speed/camera would bring minimal gains, To be fair i kind of understand where NEXTGENAPPLE is coming from, you need to respect him for speaking his opinions when some would just stay silent, some i agree with some i don't.
You need to remember what steve said "Think different" and cos nextgenapple is doesn't make him a hater/none mac lover, he claims he is bt maybe he doesn't want to throw the richest company in the world more money for no reason making him out of pocket and Apple more of his cash. Brave man for speaking out and I respect you highly for that
Ps remember your current iMacs will explode when the new ones arrive and your current sandy bridge chips will melt due to jealousy of new ivy Bridge, So get your wallets out and give apple more money, we need to get them to 1st trillion company, nothing more is important in this world right now!!
As with the iPhone apple know's there are many people that will trade in for latest. Siri for instance, for me was not a massive jump for me to ditch iPhone 4 for 4s so i stuck it out and said i'll wait for the 5 as i wanted to see improvements from 4-5 as 4s-5 would be minimal gains speed wise, you would just see the redesigned product but speed/camera would bring minimal gains, To be fair i kind of understand where NEXTGENAPPLE is coming from, you need to respect him for speaking his opinions when some would just stay silent, some i agree with some i don't.
You need to remember what steve said "Think different" and cos nextgenapple is doesn't make him a hater/none mac lover, he claims he is bt maybe he doesn't want to throw the richest company in the world more money for no reason making him out of pocket and Apple more of his cash. Brave man for speaking out and I respect you highly for that
Ps remember your current iMacs will explode when the new ones arrive and your current sandy bridge chips will melt due to jealousy of new ivy Bridge, So get your wallets out and give apple more money, we need to get them to 1st trillion company, nothing more is important in this world right now!!
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of course i wouldnt be waiting if my computer broke down, but it didnt. so im waiting
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What people need to understand is that Apple has a marketing plan to make people think the last refresh is way better than the previous product, which isn't the case for example on their page it says for the iMac up to 3x faster graphics Now anyone with common sense would know thats minimal gains and not worth ditching your previous gen iMac for.
As with the iPhone apple know's there are many people that will trade in for latest. Siri for instance, for me was not a massive jump for me to ditch iPhone 4 for 4s so i stuck it out and said i'll wait for the 5 as i wanted to see improvements from 4-5 as 4s-5 would be minimal gains speed wise, you would just see the redesigned product but speed/camera would bring minimal gains, To be fair i kind of understand where NEXTGENAPPLE is coming from, you need to respect him for speaking his opinions when some would just stay silent, some i agree with some i don't.
You need to remember what steve said "Think different" and cos nextgenapple is doesn't make him a hater/none mac lover, he claims he is bt maybe he doesn't want to throw the richest company in the world more money for no reason making him out of pocket and Apple more of his cash. Brave man for speaking out and I respect you highly for that
Ps remember your current iMacs will explode when the new ones arrive and your current sandy bridge chips will melt due to jealousy of new ivy Bridge, So get your wallets out and give apple more money, we need to get them to 1st trillion company, nothing more is important in this world right now!!
Nice post, "THINK DIFFERENT" people forget that!!! you're not allowed to do that on here didn't you know.
Find it strange no leaks and respected people haven't heard/said anything about redesign. Some sites quote thinner just to cover their backs really.
All in all i don't care, when it comes it comes. I was waiting before but needed an iMac and I'm not disappointed at all. Old enough not to have "Buyers remorse" also there will always be something new and better around the corner, that's the only certainty .
Easy. Sell it while it's still new and you get a years use out of it for basically free. (Not really free, but you can sell it for close to what you paid for it)
2012 Release
Question for the group: once the 2012 release of the new iMac is announced (now June/July) and specs are released, how difficult will it be to get the existing models?
I have a late 2006 edition and am looking to upgrade, but want to see the specs and pricepoints of the new ones before I buy.
Thoughts?
Question for the group: once the 2012 release of the new iMac is announced (now June/July) and specs are released, how difficult will it be to get the existing models?
I have a late 2006 edition and am looking to upgrade, but want to see the specs and pricepoints of the new ones before I buy.
Thoughts?
MacMall will always have some stock of old ones the first weeks after the new ones come out, and sell them at around 20% off.
Not really, iMacs of this vintage are known to have these problems. They are not uncommon at all. A more logical comparison would be "I hear that my airline usually has delays, so my odds of being delayed are increased", which I think is fair.
The Mac mini was redesigned almost two years ago with no rumors leading up to the announcement. Similarly the MBP redesign rumors have been on-going pretty much since Steve Jobs unveiled the current design in October 2008, with a significant picking up in the last two years. People said that the early 2011 models would bring about the design change, and then no change, similarly, the models after that, and here we are with the Late 2011 models and, what do you know, no design change. The previous design lasted six years and only changed because there were drastic practical improvements that were made to solve issues they were having. To my knowledge, that is yet the case with the current design, plus we're barely through year four of the current design, so we have time left.
The iMac on the other hand tends to be given different designs once every three revs and we are currently nearing the end of the refresh cycle for rev #3 of the current design. Plus the current design is riddled with problems. It's safe to say that even if we aren't hearing rumors about it, Apple is at least giving it strong consideration.
Exactly!
A cheaper sub-$1000 iMac with only the Intel Integrated graphics (in this case the Intel HD 4000 coming out with Sandy Bridge) would be a fantastic idea for consumers after an Apple-branded desktop Mac. Ultra-thin, on the other hand would be a poor idea given that, the discrete GPU is only one of the many heat-generating components in an iMac and that, if anything, the machine should be made thicker, not thinner.
I think they were referring to the Mid 2010 redesign. Otherwise, the removal of the optical drive does present a slight design change between the 2010 non-server minis and the 2011 minis, though I agree, save for the Thunderbolt logo on the back-side, the 2011 minis look identical to the 2010 mini server.
It will be no less difficult to get them if you buy from the Apple Refurbished Mac section of the Apple online store, and they will usually drop that much more in price upon a refresh, so that's never a bad idea (unless you want to max out the hard drive or RAM or GPU or GPU VRAM or something like that, which on an iMac, you might want to do; though you can't customize just-discontinued models either, so that's moot).
As for other retailers, they usually have clearance sales, but they tend to go fast and aren't much to write home about; I'd do the refurbished models over the clearance sales, were it me. Then again, given my aversion to iMacs to begin with, I think I'd probably pass altogether and just stick with a 15" MacBook Pro.
Is there any chance that the new iMac will have a Blueray player?
Is there any chance that the new iMac will have a Blueray player?
I have a good collection of blueray movie discs.
Currently I have a VAIO laptop with blueray player and while watching any of the blueray discs I connect the laptop to my 46'' LED TV with HDMI cable.
Although I know iTunes started supporting 1080p movies/tv shows but I am thinking of playing my existing blue ray on iMac and use Airplay(I have a 2012 Apple TV) to watch it on my TV...
Is there any chance that the new iMac will have a Blueray player?
I have a good collection of blueray movie discs.
Currently I have a VAIO laptop with blueray player and while watching any of the blueray discs I connect the laptop to my 46'' LED TV with HDMI cable.
Although I know iTunes started supporting 1080p movies/tv shows but I am thinking of playing my existing blue ray on iMac and use Airplay(I have a 2012 Apple TV) to watch it on my TV...
Extremely unlikely indeed. Apple has described the licensing issues around Blu-Ray as a bag of hurt.
I would like to see it because of my Blu-Ray collection, but the only realistic option seems to be an external Blu-Ray drive. See the very long thread on these forums for how to do that.
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Here's your Vegas* odds:
Existing Superdrive - 50%
No ODD - 45%
BlueRay - 5%
*Not really.
I don't agree that iTunes 1080p video is crap when compared to blu-ray. I own both formats and I love the visual improvement in the 1080p content on iTunes over 720p. For me though, the major noticeable difference in quality is in the audio department. You get 7.1 DTS-MA on blu-ray over DVD quality Dolby Digital 5.1 on iTunes. That said, still doesn't bother me though. I still prefer getting my content digitally and the content is "good enough" for me.
Anyway, I do agree that blu-ray will never show up on a Mac. Ever.
How long is it after the release of a new iMac that a refurb version will be available on the Apple site for a cut price?
The iMac is all about the all-in-one concept.
Why don't you go buy a Mac Mini / Mac Pro?
As soon as somebody realises its not what he was hoping for or has a faulty unit that gets repaired.
Hell no to intel integrated graphics.
Dude you won't be able to play any videos at all.
You won't be able to do anything with DX 11.
Intel graphics is lackluster compared to their CPU
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Seems like you hate cables so much, huh?
Can you use AirPlay for serious and prolonged music listening/movie watching session? How long an iPad/iPhone/Macbook battery can withstand AirPlay session? 4, or 5 hours? Or much less than that?
In the end, to make it worthwhile and last longer, you still need charging/power cable from your iPad/iPhone/Macs while streaming AirPlay content to your Apple TV. And because you still need cable, why not get something like iPad A/V digital cable, connect it to HDMI/audio receiver and also iPad dock so it can charge while playing content RELIABLY via HDMI cable?
Plus AirPlay still has lag problems when it comes to display mirroring and playing games from iPad to your TV or anything involving high bandwidth video. It's cool but far from reliable. I only use it occasionally for short movie watching and some casual listening.
I don't mind having a few cables around to get a 100% reliable performance rather than going complete wireless, super clean/neat and hang my neck on WiFi or bluetooth service quality, Or even rely on battery for wireless speakers. You're screwed when it runs out and you badly need it.
It's not that I hate wireless technology, I use WiFi, bluetooth connectivities too, but I also have wired solution out and ready, so I have backups when something goes wrong with those wireless techies. I wouldn't hang my neck only on wireless.
Yep i agree, but i do so hate cables.
Plus the speakers need not be totally wireless.
They can be getting the signal DAC wirelessly from the mac but connected to a powerpoint ?
It is much like the offering of desecrate media solution out in the market today.
But wouldn't it be amazing if Apple will be able to pull this off?
Just imagine a decade earlier we would have never thought a tablet can last 10hrs on it own battery.
For data right now i have no choice but to use wired solution, wireless is just no reliable.
