iPad still runs iOS in its core. And you know how gimped iOS always is. Me personally probably can only get 20% of my work done on iPad vs 80% on MacBook.
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What to Expect From the 'Scary Fast' October 30 Apple Event
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There is neither a successor for the 21" or 27" iMacs as the 24" sits right in between.
Many 27" iMac were sold because Apple for decades didn't offer a headless Mac that wasn't gimped or overkill.
A 5k 27" iMac might be possible but that would make the lineup just as much confused as the MacBooks.
A 5k 30(+)" iMac wouldn't slot in with Apple's definition of "Retina"
A 6k iMac with a SoC that makes sense for that size/res won't start below 2999. Even 3999 seems plausible.
Always the same BS. None of those innovations are useful, meanwhile the batteries still last just 5 hours and the rest is windows.
What if Apple announced the Pro Display XDR 2 on Monday and the Macbook Pros will feature a smaller notch?
I’d be surprised if we weren’t surprised by something Monday night.
So true. It’s funny how many fanboys (who can’t see past the end of their noses) will tell you you’re using it wrong. It’s the number 1 complaint about the Magic Mouse hands down.
Can't wait for the Magic Mouse to get that port underneath upgraded to USB-C!
Don’t know why Apple does not simply add Qi charging to the MM. Wouldn’t solve the problem of using it while charging unless someone makes a Qi mouse pad.
Looks like in your case, iPad is a better option. At the same time, iPad don't work for me. When I had my Surface Pro, I used it like a tablet for light tasks, web browsing, PDF annotations (at the time I used Drawboard PDF, and it was excellent), watch movies and social apps, and had no issues at all. Even though iPad was a better tablet, the Surface Pro worked fine for simple tablet tasks.
The Surface Pro goes ahead of the iPad when it comes to laptop / desktop usage. The kickstand was excellent, and never had issues with it. Since it has full Windows desktop, you have applications that works better with mouse and keyboard, full multitasking and multiuser. And the I also had the Surface Dock, connected with full size keyboard, mouse and monitor. At the end, the Surface Pro is a light use tablet, with full desktop capability. At least for me, the Surface Pro replaced my laptop and desktop, something my iPad wouldn't do. I agree with you that having an Intel processor is not the best for the type of device. I hope the new Snapdragon X Elite fix the issues caused by an Intel processor.
Like I posted before, both devices have compromises. The iPad is a better tablet, but the Surface Pro is a better device as soon as you attached the keyboard.
I agree that, from a marketing stand-point as to how Apple seems to like tiering their product lines, it seems reasonable to expect that a $1.8-2K pricepoint would be a great/ideal target to hit. The question then becomes one of bill-of-goods compromises based on the component selections Apple sees as being the right choice to encourage a sale at that price level.
By my reckoning, incorporating their current ASD panel into a redesigned (read: new flat-backed design language) 27" SDR iMac and pairing that with a base M3 configuration, I agree that such an entry-level MSRP could comfortably be targeted. And, it would help cauterize the bleeding-out (and outright hemorrhaging) of their current long- and hard-earned 27" Intel iMac user base. Cupertino knows how to count.
Cupertino knows that a loud minority is just a loud minority.
Cupertino knows how many past 27" costumers switched to the 24".
Cupertino knows how many past 27" costumers switched to a MacMini/Studio + display.
Cupertino knows how many past 27" costumers would rather switch to Windows than buying any other Mac.
Cupertino knows what the margins would be on a sensible specced and priced 27".
Well, I see iMac as the preferred choice for folks (like myself) wanting simplicity and desktop elegance, most users turn back once approaching the borders of "Geekland" where having to plug in more than one cable becomes an instant point of no-sale. And I see the iMac market segment needing/wanting both SDR and HDR solutions.
Where I see the Pro and Studio and Mini userbase sometimes get "brain-fog when thinking about iMac" is that most smart device users shudder at the first sign of user-setup or user-maintenance friction. Folks love their AIO iPhones/iPads/MBPs/iMacs because all the friction has been removed...turn it on and get on with one's day. For those who need/want to geek-out with stand-alones, I'm thrilled that Apple makes products for you, too!
As for Monday's pre-holiday shopping event, I expect lots of M3 offerings for the <$2K shoppers, Tim wants to see his stores packed this holiday season! I expect new rainbow M3 iMacs will be amongst the new product line. "My", er, 28" or 32" XDR iMac I expect will more than likely come at a later date.
Just like the 14" MacBook Pro is a successor of the 13" MacBook Pro with smaller bezels, the 24" iMac is the successor of the 21" iMac with smaller bezels.
They did offer the Max mini with the fastest Intel processors that would fit into this thermal envelope. The ARM transition allows for way more performance in all form factors.
This was the case in the past, which is why there was no large iMac for the last three years. But now even the M3 Pro will be "scary fast" and capable to run a 6K display.
Methinks you might be reading this backwards, just as Samsung tries to preempt iPhone releases to "keep their cattle in their pens", Qualcomm is merely doing the same in trying to preempt "M3 temptations" amongst their herd.
Um, "Sort by Kind" puts one's folders at the top of a window and both folders and files are alphabetized.
You may see it that way, won't matter if Apple sees it the other way.
No Intel Mini had a decent GPU and wether the bigger CPU really fit into that thermal envelope is a matter of definition.
Sure, but by that logic they should also have offered a base M1/2 with the displays from the 14" and 16" MBPs.
While any future 6k display/iMac won't come at the same premium as the XDR it would still be part of the "Pro" line, hence with MxMax and MxUltra chips.
We're discussing an XDR iMac vs an SDR iMac based off of an ASD display. An XDR iMac based off of MBP XDR display fabrication processing (I am guessing) would pricepoint at $3.5 entry-level model. Elsewhere in this thread there is discussion (some of it mine) of ASD-based 27" iMac pricing at the ~$2K entry-point.
I agree that an XDR iMac would likely be marketed as a, er, "Pro" model much the same as the XDR Macbbok "Pro" laptops are marketed.
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Oh, there will certainly be surprises. In the course of a few days, we've collectively swung from "no new Macs until 2024" and "no more Apple events in 2023" to pretty much everything is getting major updates: Macs and iPads. We've gone from "first comes M3... and then comes M3 PRO & MAX... and then comes ULTRA to some speculating maybe ULTRA too in MBpros with what will presumably include the holy mother of all bulges on the bottom to hold that enormous heat sink.
At this rate, by tonight I'm expecting some posts about how all new iPhones or iPod Touches (might as well imagine updates/resurrections to everything there too) will allow owners to walk on water, raise the dead and/or transport to the starship and back again... fire lasers and heal any sickness or injury.
Reality cometh to all... tomorrow. I look forward to listening to all of the soon-to-be "unboxing" firsts on my new 22nd anniversary iPod Pro Max Mach II Ultra edition... which doubles as a shaver and whole house energy backup... and includes the arc reactor for the Iron Man suit. I'm literally "flying" right down to the Apple store to buy it all!
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We’ve seen the price hike of the 5K iMac versus its predecessor the 2.5K non-Retina iMac. A few hundred dollars more are always possible for a better display, but not a thousand.
Yes, it's certainly just guesswork and extrapolation on my part as to just how much an imaginary 28" XDR dsiplay panel iMac would add to the pricepoint over an identically-configured imaginary 27" ASD display panel iMac.
You need to put in some effort to transition away from macOS the legacy platform. If you can only do 20% of your work on iPad Pro, you need to try harder.