What to Expect From the 'Scary Fast' October 30 Apple Event

[killhippie]

They pushed out an iOS 15.8 on the same day as 17.1. Monterey got pushed to 12.7.1. Wouldn’t those be patched?

The Mac address thing not working for the last 3 years was patched in 17.1 and I'm guessing 14.1 iOS 15 didn't get patched for the Mac address issue according to the report. ileakage is patched kind of 'A mitigation for the attack is available to users, but researchers noted this only applies to macOS, it isn't enabled by default, and is currently marked as unstable' so not really. There seems so many hardware flaws these days, the M2 suffered the same hardware flaw as the M1 (pacman) which couldn't be patched as it was a flaw in the silicon itself, hopefully that's finally patched in M3 chips

Vulnerability discovered in Apple M1 chip

MIT CSAIL boffins devise PACMAN attack to let existing exploits avoid pointer authentication

www.theregister.com

 

[Jim Lahey]

Scary prices?

 

[Trolle]

Of course it is M3 macs. Those Macbook Pros are gonna tear the roof off.

 

[4odomi]

What to expect? People who spent a ton on a MBP in January to be disappointed? I would be no matter the explanation. I’ll still watch even though I’m not in the market for any more Macs this year.

Would they be just as disappointed if it comes January 2024?

 

[4odomi]

The disappointment is the lack of innovation at Apple.
Look at all the other laptop manufacturers. They are releasing new form factors, new features, new visual looks & honestly have started to close the gap on quality/luxury that Apple offered.

That being said, I could never use WindowsOS and even though the Mac OS is boring - it is still simpler than clunky windows (although the rate Apple is going, they will catch up soon)

Vision Pro is the innovation !
What Apple are doing is skimping, on things like a 4k camera, Face ID, slow SSD's, not offering Touch Bar as an option for those that want it & peak brightness out doors without an app, to mention but a few.
As far as quality is concerned, they're still miles ahead, just look at the bricks they call power supply on PC's 🤣

 

[klky]

I'm really hoping Apple release USB-C versions of their MagSafe Battery Pack and MagSafe Duo Charger. It would be silly to miss the window before the holiday season.

 

[4odomi]

This made me laugh.

I just ordered an off-cycle Dell at work a few weeks ago.

It looks essentially identical to the on-cycle ones I ordered in early 2021, which were 2020 models.

Laptops are laptops. Gimmicks aren't really welcome at this point. As for 'new form factors', it hardly went un-noticed that Microsoft had an event recently and refreshed...the laptops, and the low-end tablet got a refresh for enterprise. No Surface Pro refresh, no new Duo.

It's just the new narrative (although not so new) bashing Apple for a lack of innovation, it's all sponsored by the PC makers & Microsoft.
What Apple should be knocked for is skimping on upgrades and features 😏

 

[4odomi]

Hopefully they'll redesign Magic Mouse. It's a bummer not being able to use it while it is charging

It would lose its sleek look, I've heard it only needs a charge once a month....what's wrong with just charging it over night?
Nothing beats being organised eh 😊

 

[4odomi]

My nearly 3 year old M1 Touch Bar MacBook Pro is holding up well. I want to get to 5 years old before contemplating a replacement.

Amazing. 3 years in. Battery still lasts me from 8.50 to 6pm at college. Everybody else plugs in their PC laptops before lunch hour and I walk past.

Can’t wait for what’s released next week. As those innovations will be in whichever Mac I eventually replace mine with ⭐️

Like wise, although I've been thinking about the 14" pro for better screen, camera & speakers, struggling to give up my Touch Bar though 😏

 

[GrumpyDonkey]

The disappointment is the lack of innovation at Apple.
Look at all the other laptop manufacturers. They are releasing new form factors, new features, new visual looks & honestly have started to close the gap on quality/luxury that Apple offered.

That being said, I could never use WindowsOS and even though the Mac OS is boring - it is still simpler than clunky windows (although the rate Apple is going, they will catch up soon)

Sadly, Windows is beginning to take the title of just works. I'm finding it easier to use for work. Mac OS is now what I use at home when not working. Rather disappointed.

 

[4odomi]

Yeah no disappointment, most folks should have known the speed bump from m1 to m2 wasn't much, but the m3 should be significant. So I skipped m2 and will be eyeing m3 if significant improvements happen with the smaller architecture.

Based on the 17Pro, it's unlikely to be a big bump in single core

 

[klasma]

It won’t take 2 hours to just talk about an M3 chip in the new Macs.

There could be an extended Mother Ǝarth segment.

 

[antonrg]

Just checked Apple Store in France and if you were to order BTO MacBook Pro now,the delivery dates are insanely delayed: 27 Nov earliest. I wonder if they announce M3Pro/Max in a couple of days, how long will it take them to deliver those?

Just a week ago the delivery times for BTO MBPs were max 2 weeks and people got them delivered in less than a week.

…and the 13 inch ones are even further delayed by a week.

 

[4odomi]

Actually for a different bit of logic (what maximizes overall Mac revenue during the most lucrative quarter of the year?), I still wouldn't be surprised if there's NO M3 at all in 2023... and that "scary fast" is an updated M2 Pro (and M2) iMac with some pretty graphics/charts comparing very selective (aka cherry-picked variables) speeds to M1 iMac and Intel iMacs before that.

A couple of new iPad rumors were hot and heavy a couple of weeks ago, so why not show up in this event too? Gut updates to those could make them "scary fast"er than their predecessors now a few years old.

If there's a "one more thing", maybe an iMac "bigger" with M2 PRO & MAX... which could also be "scary fast" vs. the old iMacs 27" that ran on Intel. If so, my guess is PRO branding at "scary" PRO pricing... like the previous iMac Pro (far above previous iMac 27" pricing). Will apparent pent-up demand for an iMac "bigger" pay a handsome premium for an iMac "bigger" Pro? TBD.

First Macs with Thunderbolt 5... which could easily fit "scary fast" without setting up the buying conflicts of a few Macs going M3 while most of the rest stick with "old" M2 for the holidays?

With Wifi 7 routers being offered at well over $1K now, does Apple jump back into that space with their own Wifi routers again... which could also fit "scary fast" messaging. The profit margin certainly looks like it is in that space again.

Then 3-5 months from now, Vpro can launch with M2 with nobody ripping it as "ancient" technology (as you just did with M1) and THEN M3 can roll as thoroughly predicted right up to even a week+ ago.

I'll hope for all this M3 stuff to rain on us next week but WOW! Where's the accumulating rumors been? Pictures of boxes? Pictures of parts? Evidence in macOS software updates? "No new Mac updates in 2023" was fully accepted even a week ago. Has Apple finally achieved "doubled down" security so well? Or are we imagining "Scary" and "Fast" in the wrong way? Trick or treat?

Totally agree with your logic, I've said all along it will be an iMac event with m2

 

[canon-cinema-0r]

Hopefully they'll redesign Magic Mouse. It's a bummer not being able to use it while it is charging

People are really using that? I thought the only point of the Magic Mouse is just to make the iMac more expensive.

 

[canon-cinema-0r]

M3 Pro/Max, when base M3 hasn't come out yet, seriously?

Apple is the only one who goes in reverse direction, and releases the base CPU first. Changing that shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[canon-cinema-0r]

Honest question, why do you need M3 in Air? Air is not a product thats about performance. So why do people keep asking for this?

If you need the power, you go for Pro, if you need office and light stuff, the M2 is plenty fast.

So honestly, why do you need M3 in Air?

If M3 will only improve performance but not power usage, I'd consider it a fail. Also the rumored increase in memory (12,24,36) could come handy even in an Air.

 

[CyberBob859]

Hoping that there is a black/space gray iMac with M3 Pro chip. The USB-C braided color cables photo from a few months back may suggest that color could come to the iMac (since the cables didn't arrive with the iPhone 15 lineup.) And since Apple doesn't seem to give color options to Pro models, here's hoping they bump up the iMac specs a bit.

 

[canon-cinema-0r]

Yeah, worst product design ever. Probably why Jony Ive got shown the door.

Yet they've came out with the ugliest macbooks ever after he departed. What was needed a technical people doing a simple sanity check with veto power over his designs. Butterfly keyborad? Slap! Touchbar? Slap! Charging port on the bottom of a mouse? Slap!

 

[4odomi]

Honest question, why do you need M3 in Air? Air is not a product thats about performance. So why do people keep asking for this?

If you need the power, you go for Pro, if you need office and light stuff, the M2 is plenty fast.

So honestly, why do you need M3 in Air?

snapier web browsing for one, faster SSD's, better heat dissipation, more RAM on the base models

 

[4odomi]

Yeah, worst product design ever. Probably why Jony Ive got shown the door.

The Magic Mouse is about the looks & features not practicality!
Besides you only have to charge it once a month.
I suspect you've never used one 😏

 

[4odomi]

So your “innovative” idea is for Apple to put a screen on the outside of a laptop so users can see notifications?

He's taking the pee out of PC lap tops 🤣

 

[4odomi]

Sadly, Windows is beginning to take the title of just works. I'm finding it easier to use for work. Mac OS is now what I use at home when not working. Rather disappointed.

Only Just works....would be more accurate

 

[sockdoggy]

Totally agree with your logic, I've said all along it will be an iMac event with m2

And what about Mac Mini, Mac Studio, Mac Pro? Just seems odd to update a quarter of their desktops and half the laptops, with a mix of pro and non-pro products getting m3. I know historically Apple silicone updates have been non-linear but keep thinking some logic is inbound with Pro devices staying a generation ahead similar to iPad Air and iPad Pro

 

[iPadified]

Halloween seems better connected to family and friends so perhaps a focus on gaming. Time is afternoon and evening is US which is not business hours suggesting a consumer focused event. Hardware RT is coming to M3 if it is based on A17 Pro. Fits well with M3 iMac, M3 iPad Air and A17 Pro mini (Christmas gifts for gaming). M3 Pro and max are not really associated with the holiday season but if these machines are strong in RT, game development might be highlighted.

An iMac with M2 at this stage does not warrant a short video commercial let alone an event. A 2h event is long for just talking about Mac updates without a application focus.