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No it's not. It's just different and many Windows folks consider different to be wrong or inferior. Just like they expect folders to come before files when sorted by alphabetic order.
I use Windows and macOS in a daily basis, and I agree with @Fuzzball84, Windows is better with windows management. Maybe macOS folks consider different to be wrong or inferior. ;)
 
$3,500, and I won't even blink. LOL More for a higher end processor. :)

Impressive! A realist for a change.

Too many are dreaming of a super deluxe iMac "bigger" but seemingly expecting old iMac "starting at" pricing < $2K. I strongly believe they are ill prepared for the big reveal... of the price. But you are.
 
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And what about Mac Mini, Mac Studio, Mac Pro? Just seems odd to update a quarter of their desktops and half the laptops, with a mix of pro and non-pro products getting m3.
Well, it depends which chips they launch.

MBA, base Mini, 13" MBP, 24" iMac - all need the regular Mx
14/16" MBP, Mini "Pro" - all need the Mx Pro/Max
Studio - needs the Mx Ultra for the top-end version, and so far the Studio Max has been released at the same time
Pro - needs the Mx Ultra (and the M2 version is also the most recent release)

...previously, the Mx, Mx Pro/Max and Mx Ultra have been released in that order, with months separating the launches. The rumours suggest that we're getting the M3 Pro/Max first this time - which would be a surprise. Getting the regular M3 and Pro/Max together would be a double surprise - which would still leave us waiting for the Studio and Pro. If we get the regular, pro, max and ultra all in one go - enabling a full sweep M3 family upgrade - then we may have to resort to astonishment.

Or they could be changing the regular/pro/max/ultra lineup to something different.

Or this could be not about M3 at all. I'm skeptical that the large-screen "iMac pro" will ever arrive, but I suppose that such an iMac with a M2 Ultra processor could fit the "scary fast" description.
 
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The funny thing is that Apple is cheaper where everyone else is more expensive, and vice versa. I was coming from 12" ThinkPads (only reason was the OS), and was pleasantly surprised that a similar MacBook was cheaper. But if I were coming from 14-15" consumer machines, the price gap is huge there and probably wouldn't have made the switch.
High end business / enterprise notebooks are very similar with Apple pricing. But they are worth it. ThinkPads and Elitebooks are built in aluminum, and some of them are in carbon fiber. For many years ThinkPads have met military specs,

Lenovo ThinkPad Laptops Pass the 'Tough Test': Meet Military Specifications for Semi-Rugged Computing - Lenovo StoryHub

One advantage of Windows notebooks are GPU's from Nvidia and AMD, that are ahead of Apple. And while Apple have excellent trackpads, ThinkPads keyboards are better.

One thing I would love to see improved in Windows laptops are trackpads (I read the ThinkPad Z13 improved a lot) and heat caused by processors, something I hope is fixed after watching the Qualcomm keynote. We'll have to wait and see.
 
High end business / enterprise notebooks are very similar with Apple pricing. But they are worth it. ThinkPads and Elitebooks are built in aluminum, and some of them are in carbon fiber. For many years ThinkPads have met military specs,

Lenovo ThinkPad Laptops Pass the 'Tough Test': Meet Military Specifications for Semi-Rugged Computing - Lenovo StoryHub

One advantage of Windows notebooks are GPU's from Nvidia and AMD, that are ahead of Apple. And while Apple have excellent trackpads, ThinkPads keyboards are better.

One thing I would love to see improved in Windows laptops are trackpads (I read the ThinkPad Z13 improved a lot) and heat caused by processors, something I hope is fixed after watching the Qualcomm keynote. We'll have to wait and see.
Even Apple trackpads can't beat ThinkPad trackpoints for me. That was one big worry when gave Macbooks a try, I hated trackpads and thought I'd never be able to have a notebook without a trackpoint. And I was pleasantly surprised that it's possible to make a usable trackpad, lol. And they last, too. My father still uses my old X230, that was 11 years old this year. Give me a ThinkPad Carbon with M3 and MacOS, and I'll be a happy man.

Btw they are made with magnesium-alloy frame with plastic/carbon exterior, depending on the model.
 
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Unless Apple physically changes the iMac 24" chassis there is no room for a M3 Pro. Those package are no where near the same size. Remember the RAM packages are soldered to that base package also. Not onl is the "Pro" die bigger but there are also two more RAM packages soldered to the system.

There is no copious amounts of empty space inside the iMac 24" at all. The space is constrained by the size of the 'chin' ( because that is where apple is placing the main board). If the chin as bigger , but if the screen size stays the same ( which is likely since the logistics for the iMac chassis hasn't leaked anything about changes ).

[ This is nn start contrast to the Mini which is about half empty with the M1/M2 inside. So there was copious room for a M2 Pro to be squeezed into the chassis. ]
In the past apple has changed the physical dimensions of a iMac model with its replacement successor. We can't rule out that the current 24" model form is just temporary design that will transition again to something else since its April 2021 introduction. Its the first AS iMac after more then a decade of intel based iMacs. After all this time IMHO I think many of us are very curious to see whats next aren't we? At least the odds seem to be the highest it might make a showing in just a few days. :cool:
 
Looking forward to new M3’s. May swap my M1 MBP M1 for one.

Like the new mouse may keep old design and not mess up the design.
 
Unless Apple physically changes the iMac 24" chassis there is no room for a M3 Pro. Those package are no where near the same size. Remember the RAM packages are soldered to that base package also. Not onl is the "Pro" die bigger but there are also two more RAM packages soldered to the system.

There is no copious amounts of empty space inside the iMac 24" at all. The space is constrained by the size of the 'chin' ( because that is where apple is placing the main board). If the chin as bigger , but if the screen size stays the same ( which is likely since the logistics for the iMac chassis hasn't leaked anything about changes ).

[ This is nn start contrast to the Mini which is about half empty with the M1/M2 inside. So there was copious room for a M2 Pro to be squeezed into the chassis. ]

Is Apple going to abandoned the "iPad on stick" iMac 24" format? Probably not. When has Apple completely run away from a new chassis in a few years? Apple 'pressed on" with the butterfly keyboard for YEARS! Pretty good chance they strongly like the "iPad thinness" aspects of the iMac 24". Which puts the 24" off the "Mn Pro" option path.

Gurman is reporting that they tweaked the mount point for the stand. That likely saves Apple money some how. ( lower product assembly costs , repair costs , and/or boarder economies of scale with the Studio Display. ) . It is a connector adjustment to reinforce the whole 'iPad on a stick ' approach.

Jumping from M1 to M3 with no intermediary stop at M2 is fast. M3 versus M1 Pro ... the M3 probably isn't in a bad place on a fairly broad array of mainstream applications.
YES! YES! YES!

And the “iPad on a stick” is the perfect way to describe the 24” iMac logic board.

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It seems odd to be here on a rumor site then, doesn't it?
Criticizing professional rumors mongers, who just make-up stuff to justify a paycheck seem on-point for a rumor site. Everyone has an opinion and can generate rumors (the new MM will be big and brown and will be called a magi rat), as well as criticize those rumors (it will be wireless, so it can’t be a rat since rats have big tails).
 
IDK man. The new form factors an either gimmicks like the Duo screen ROG, or seriously dragged by Windows like the Surface. Not to mention the reliability of some of their product, or the fact that they would suddenly start updating the OS in your bag and sound like helicopters.
At least they are TRYING.
Look at the galaxy fold, it’s very cool - sure you seee some videos of cracked screens but you see the same on iPhones. Point being, it’s a fun device to use. Apple hasn’t released a fun device to use in a long time.
 
Even Apple trackpads can't beat ThinkPad trackpoints for me. That was one big worry when gave Macbooks a try, I hated trackpads and thought I'd never be able to have a notebook without a trackpoint. And I was pleasantly surprised that it's possible to make a usable trackpad, lol. And they last, too. My father still uses my old X230, that was 11 years old this year. Give me a ThinkPad Carbon with M3 and MacOS, and I'll be a happy man.

Btw they are made with magnesium-alloy frame with plastic/carbon exterior, depending on the model.
I know there is a group of people that still use the trackpoint. And it has some benefits, like your hands are always on the keyboard, and it's more comfortable to use in small spaces, like plane seats.

I don't think we'll see a X1 Carbon with M3 and macOS. The closest think we'll have to an Apple M-series processor inside a X1 Carbon is the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite. At least on paper, looks very promising.

I check, and the X1 Carbon and some T-series are built with aluminum and carbon fiber. There are others as the Z-series, that made with aluminum.
 
It's called "IBM".

The corporate world uses Windows today because they used Windows yesterday.

They used Windows yesterday because they used MS-DOS the day before that.

They used MS-DOS because IBM sold it as PC-DOS.

And the corporate world did what IBM did.
Another reason most business and enterprises use Windows is because of their ecosystem. There is no other company that comes close to it.
 
Not onl is the "Pro" die bigger but there are also two more RAM packages soldered to the system.

But one of the reasons to shrink the device (transistor) size is to make the whole chip smaller.

You're right about the SDRAM - it's mounted in the same package as the Mx. Then that package is mounted to the main (and only, except in the Mac Pro) board in these newer Macs.

But SDRAM density will go up too (as the transistors shrink.) Samsung for example just recently announced a new DRAM chip.
 
It's called "IBM".
The corporate world uses Windows today because they used Windows yesterday.
They used Windows yesterday because they used MS-DOS the day before that.
They used MS-DOS because IBM sold it as PC-DOS.
And the corporate world did what IBM did.
Back in 2019 IBM switched to using 200,000 Macs for their employees because although the upfront cost was more the extended IT costs were a lot cheaper. You can't just look at MS Windows ecosystem as the only game in town anymore. The following 2022 article hits on a lot of cost differences for enterprises to consider comparing windows vs MacOS. The whole debate on what to use is further changed by Apple rapid expanse into using ARM based computerizing offering workstation performance in many form factors.

Previn noted that within IBM, seven engineers support 200,000 macOS devices versus the 20 engineers required to support 200,000 Windows devices. That is a 186% increase in support engineering needed for Windows devices.
Please note I am one who regularly uses both Macs and PCs for what they offer. The selection of what to use is really driven by hardware/available software solutions to get your work accomplished. Yes at home I have Macs and PC's operating right next to each other. For a large amount of enterprise work you can use either to get the job done.

This Halloween if Apple brings out even faster and more cost effective AS based Macs, enterprises will be be indeed watching how this ARM based computing can be utilized more for their purposes. Same with education sites. ;)
 
Impressive! A realist for a change.

Too many are dreaming of a super deluxe iMac "bigger" but seemingly expecting old iMac "starting at" pricing < $2K. I strongly believe they are ill prepared for the big reveal... of the price. But you are.
The 1998 iMac G3 and the 2021 M1 iMac share only two things, the concept and the price. Both are colorful All-in-Ones which look better from the back and cost $1,299.

Expecting the new large iMac to be in a whole different price class than the 27" 5K iMac it replaces is not realistic, but pessimistic and defeatist.
 
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The 1998 iMac G3 and the 2021 M1 iMac share only two things, the concept and the price. Both are colorful All-in-Ones which look better from the back and cost $1,299.

Expecting the new large iMac to be in a whole different price class than the 27" 5K iMac it replaces is not realistic, but pessimistic and defeatist.
Mac mini with M2Pro starts at 1299
Mac Studio with M2 Max starts at 1999
27" ASD starts at 1599
32" Pro XDR starting at 4999

if you expect that a larger iMac will start at 1999 (as the old 27 iMac did) - you're going to be VERY disappointed.
 
I was on fence about the 14" and 16" MBP for a few months now, and was also attracted to the new M3 chips, which the rumors suggested those machines would be released in January or in the following months. This is a nice turn of events for me if the rumors are true, but I'm still a little pessimistic Apple will release 2 iterations of MBPs within the same calendar year, but I guess sales are just that bad and this is Apple's attempt at increasing sales.
 
Mac mini with M2Pro starts at 1299
Mac Studio with M2 Max starts at 1999
27" ASD starts at 1599
32" Pro XDR starting at 4999

if you expect that a larger iMac will start at 1999 (as the old 27 iMac did) - you're going to be VERY disappointed.
No reason to exclude the basic M3 chip just because the screen is bigger. But that would be typical Apple of course.
 
I expect Apple will be updating the 24" iMac to the M2, hopefully with an M2Pro option and also switching to full USB-C. This is Apple's last chance to update the 24" iMac with an M2 since 2024 will be the year of the M3's. I would love for them to also introduce a new 27" iMac with an M2Pro and M2Max which would be extremely exciting and desired.
Also keep in mind that it's the 25th anniversary of the iMac this year so I assume Apple would want to do something big for iMac if that's what they are announcing.
 
I'm calling it! New M3 iMac with larger screen and a new M3 12" MacBook Pro. I remember when Apple released the 12" and 17" PowerBooks and their slogan was less is more and more is more. Interesting if it turns out that way again.
 
I can’t wait for the day when Mac is the preferred choice in the enterprise.
To me, it's too late for that. For that to happen, the Mac has to offer something that's significantly above and beyond what the Windows ecosystem offers enterprises. Office on the Mac is not as feature-rich as Windows and the Mac doesn't integrate as well with Active Directory as Windows does. On top of that, Windows on ARM, in partnership with Qualcomm, will enter the market in a big way this time next year. Most of the Macs in enterprises are being used by developers.

Apple should focus on its strengths => content creation, content consumption, software development
 
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