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As has been pointed out in these forums in the past, both 13.3" and 11.6" models of the MacBook Airs has/had thick bezels.

If it was possible to reduce the size of the bezels without changing the width and length (chassis) of the unreleased MacBook Airs - allowing the screen size to increase to 13.8" - 14.0" but still fit in the "standard" manila envelope - would there be an issue with that?

That is a different thing altogether. However, currently bezels are thin (within a few mm), any gains would just be negligible.
 
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So if a need comes up that you weren't expecting, and your laptop isn't fully charged then, is that because you're lazy, or because you're irresponsible?
If you need to use your laptop and it isn't charged, it is because you are either lazy or irresponsible or both.

Especially considering the battery life these M1 Macs get, its just inexcusable. The thing could charge by being put inside a sealed case and it still wouldn't matter because it lasts forever while in use off the charger.

Bottom line is: no reason for a MacBook air to have magsafe.
 
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I've told this story before, and I'll tell it again.

When I first got my 12" G3 iBook way back in 2001, all of a sudden young women came out of the woodwork to ask me about it. I'd be sitting at a bench outside or else in a coffee shop, and these pretty young ladies would randomly strike up conversations with me. As a straight guy who isn't much to look at, I must say I was quite pleased. :)

Then in 2002 I got a G4 PowerBook Titanium, and all of a sudden all of the interest stopped. :(

It's obvious that they were just interested in the iBook, but nonetheless I appreciated the attention. Suffice it to say I have very fond memories of my white iBook.
Females would call that some form of sexual harassment and make a big deal out of it.

Are you okay?
Will you ever get over that extremely traumatic experience of having people you don't know talk to you?
Do you need some money as renumeration?
 
That is a different thing altogether. However, currently bezels are thin (within a few mm), any gains would just be negligible.
True - I just checked that the length has dropped by 0.8" or so (from less accurate 12.8" measurement of the older (early 2017 model) to more accurate 11.97" measurement of the current model).

However, as the bigger/wider original MacBook Air was able to fit into the manila envelope, the width & length of unreleased model could be increased slightly (compared to the current model) to house a slightly larger display, but still be smaller than the original MB Air. As you may be aware, the screen size in the latest smaller MacBook Pro increased from 13.3" to 14.2" so it is not impossible to consider, but also not guaranteed either ?.

We may only have a few days to wait ?
 
True - I just checked that the length has dropped by 0.8" or so (from less accurate 12.8" measurement of the older (early 2017 model) to more accurate 11.97" measurement of the current model).

However, as the bigger/wider original MacBook Air was able to fit into the manila envelope, the width & length of unreleased model could be increased slightly (compared to the current model) to house a slightly larger display, but still be smaller than the original MB Air. As you may be aware, the screen size in the latest smaller MacBook Pro increased from 13.3" to 14.2" so it is not impossible to consider, but also not guaranteed either ?.

We may only have a few days to wait ?
Yes, that's true, but that doesn't mean people will see 16" MBAs.
 
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I might buy one just for casual browsing and guests. I told myself I wouldn't buy the 24" iMac, I bought one for the kitchen area. It gets used all the time, whether I just want to check the internet with coffee, wife look at recipes or have videos going.

The iMac is an insane value, and I anticipate the Air will be too. For a grand, why not.
 
I see. BTW, why do you want the MacBook Pro M1? What advantages are you wanting to get over the MacBook Air M1 (besides the fan)? Battery life? Touch Bar?

Is the trackpad any different? I forgot to check that the last time I was in the Apple Store.
Reason I bought the MacBook was the led screen. If the air was going to get led I would have waited. Not bothered by speed just want the display
 
Reason I bought the MacBook was the led screen. If the air was going to get led I would have waited. Not bothered by speed just want the display
The MacBook Air has an LED screen. Do you mean mini-LED? Cuz that's just in the 14" and 16" Pro, and not the 13" Pro M1.
 
If you need to use your laptop and it isn't charged, it is because you are either lazy or irresponsible or both.

Especially considering the battery life these M1 Macs get, its just inexcusable. The thing could charge by being put inside a sealed case and it still wouldn't matter because it lasts forever while in use off the charger.

Bottom line is: no reason for a MacBook air to have magsafe.
Why not? It doesn't hurt to put Magsafe and add anything that would make the laptop experience better.
 
So why don't you just buy the current one?
I can, what I mean is that the new M2 Chip but same design, okay, I said a wrong thing there that I don't care about any other upgrade, but hope they retain this design and the M2 Chip
 
Who are you to say it doesn't hurt it? In fact, it has a major impact on the entire product design.
Who are you to say it isn't useful?

As to your prior argument - that a computer with a 15-hour battery should never need to be plugged in while in use - well, both the 14" and 16" MBPs have battery lives in that same 15-hour range, yet Apple saw fit to include MagSafe on them. Moreover, insane battery life doesn't last forever. If you keep computers for more than a year or two, you can expect to need to plug in more frequently as it ages.
 
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Who are you to say it isn't useful?

As to your prior argument - that a computer with a 15-hour battery should never need to be plugged in while in use - well, both the 14" and 16" MBPs have battery lives in that same 15-hour range, yet Apple saw fit to include MagSafe on them. Moreover, insane battery life doesn't last forever. If you keep computers for more than a year or two, you can expect to need to plug in more frequently as it ages.
Apple put MagSafe on the MacBook Pro because they were already nuking a Thunderbolt port by using the bus for HDMI and SD. The machine that had 4 Thunderbolt ports, and 3 available while charging, was going down to 3, leaving only 2 available if you were charging. That wasn't acceptable to them, and they knew it wouldn't be acceptable to users either. At the same time, Apple was redesigning the case and making it thicker, going against the previous design principles of the machine (principles that tried to make the MBP more like a MBA...hint, hint). Adding MagSafe was possible without derailing their design and it alleviated a major concern created by adding legacy I/O.

The MacBook Air on the other hand has a different design principle. One the MBP once tried to emulate, and thankfully walked back on. The MBA aims to be the most portable notebook available, while also being one of the most powerful notebooks for the consumer market in existence. Anything that flies against this design principle (like making the case thicker and heavier to accommodate a dedicated charger) is the wrong idea. Most of these ideas tend to come from users that want the MBA to be a poor man's MBP...people that ask for more ports, larger displays, etc. All wrong for this product.
 
Apple put MagSafe on the MacBook Pro because they were already nuking a Thunderbolt port by using the bus for HDMI and SD. The machine that had 4 Thunderbolt ports, and 3 available while charging, was going down to 3, leaving only 2 available if you were charging. That wasn't acceptable to them, and they knew it wouldn't be acceptable to users either. At the same time, Apple was redesigning the case and making it thicker, going against the previous design principles of the machine (principles that tried to make the MBP more like a MBA...hint, hint). Adding MagSafe was possible without derailing their design and it alleviated a major concern created by adding legacy I/O.

The MacBook Air on the other hand has a different design principle. One the MBP once tried to emulate, and thankfully walked back on. The MBA aims to be the most portable notebook available, while also being one of the most powerful notebooks for the consumer market in existence. Anything that flies against this design principle (like making the case thicker and heavier to accommodate a dedicated charger) is the wrong idea. Most of these ideas tend to come from users that want the MBA to be a poor man's MBP...people that ask for more ports, larger displays, etc. All wrong for this product.
You make some very good points and I agree with what you're saying for the most part. For me personally, I would love if the air had magsafe with two thunderbolt ports. I feel pretty limited with only two thunderbolt ports.
 
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