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There have been many years the watch team delivered a similar set of upgrades. What are you talking about? This year is no different than any other year, just because you only accept “flat vs round“ or “new health features” as legitimate upgrades.

I didn’t want flat at all BTW. I did want a new feature though.

Apple’s products always get better screens, better glass, better enclosures… but when has that ever been the ONLY change?

This is really no different to other updates? For me it is the first time Apple Watch has no qualitative changes at all.

S2: added water resistance
S3: added altimeter, LTE, Siri
S4: added ECG
S5: added always on OLED screen, magnetometer
S6: added blood oxygen sensor, always on altimeter, ultra-wideband
S7: added nothing

The above also ignores routine increases in CPU and RAM throughout the history of the watch. As far as I can tell the S7 is the first time neither the RAM nor CPU, or other chips like Bluetooth, have improved.
 
My money is on a last minute pivot. The announcement this week was lacking a lot of details and the fact that Apple isn't saying when the watch will launch makes me think something happened late in development lifecycle that messed up the production schedule.
 
Everyone is up in arms about who was right and who was wrong, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that nearly EVERY media outlet is calling the Series 7 a dud of an update. Either Apple leaked wrong info and shot themselves in the foot by leaking a vastly cooler Watch than they could deliver, or the rumors were ahead of their time. In either case, Apple’s lack of innovation is the main feature in Fall 2021.
Oh are we doing this 'lack of innovation' nonsense again. Sometimes ppl on these forums have literally ZERO clue about what goes into the design and manufacturer of these things. Even the tiniest of details that to laypeople are 'just' this or 'just' that. This is why Apple remains one of the most successful and most admired companies in the world. when Samsung or any other single company release phones, tablets, watches, laptops and desktop (and more) each year that are so much better designed, more 'innovative' and the rest... then maybe they will overtake Apple in these respective markets. Until then....
 
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Underwhelming to say the least. Not impressed at all and will wait another year in hopes of something dramatic like a couple more health-related sensors
 
Most people don't upgrade their watch annually. I sure don't. Apple wouldn't be targeting Series 6 owners with this release. I'm coming from a Series 4 and this is a compelling upgrade. I think I represent the average case here.
If ppl have got to the point of criticising ANNUAL upgrades of watches not being enough then that's the scary part. That people really want/can afford to spend that much replacing a WATCH each year is utterly beyond me. For the vast majority of normal ppl they keep watches, Apple or other, for YEARS AND YEARS. Not just 1 or 2 like they may with a phone. TV sets are upgraded every years, just without the fanfare. Ppl don't buy a new tv every year or 2 do they!? Nevertheless, companies want to see their product line fresh and up to date, even if the jumps aren't that significant.
 
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Love that Prosser was proven wrong. I can't stand him, his smugness, or his videos. I can't even stand his video thumbnails.

If this means Apple is cracking down on at least some leaks a little better, I'm all for it. I, for one, like some surprises.

Apple isn’t cracking down on anything. It’s far LESS likely that everyone was wrong than Apple planned this all along.

If it was planned all along, why not give a release date? Why are specs so sparse? Why is there a HARD cut in the keynote when talking about the Apple Watch?

Last minute changes are the most obvious scenario.
 
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Apple isn’t cracking down on anything. It’s far LESS likely that everyone was wrong than Apple planned this all along.

If it was planned all along, why not give a release date? Why are specs so sparse? Why is there a HARD cut in the keynote when talking about the Apple Watch?

Last minute changes are the most obvious scenario.

There is absolutely zero chance that apple engineered this at the last minute. Zero. Anyone who has every designed anything knows this.
 
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I'm going to go with... nothing went wrong at all with the leaks. They worked exactly as intended for Apple. They've been talking a lot over the years about being even more secretive about future designs, and this might have helped them stop the leaks.

To me, it all gives hints that there will be a redesign of sorts for the S8. They made a huge point to talk about how previous bands and accessories are compatible with the S7, so it's possible this will not be the case next year.
 
Why are more people not thinking that Apple did this to track leaks? Intentionally have different pieces of information given to different people so it is easier to trace how information getting out. Flat edge Apple Watch is tantalizing enough to get out and spread and would allow Apple to know where the leak came from.

In additional, I think the idea that Apple would release an entirely new display tech and new size of Apple Watch, only to ditch it next year is just silly. The new screen and case size will stick around for this year and next year for sure. 2023 would be the first year for a major redesign. Next year will be adding features to this series 7 minor redesign.

Lastly, do we really need a major redesign? I own a series 4 and will be upgrading to the series 7 and giving my watch to my dad to use for heart monitoring. Other than missing the always on display during workouts and the fact I want my dad to the notifications, I wouldn't want to upgrade. Not only because the feature set isn't worth the price, but also because I am just happy with what I have. It does what I want it to do. It looks fine (not a high end watch and not ugly to me), so why exactly is a redesign needed? I think Apple knows this as well. If there is some groundbreaking feature they release, I could maybe see them pairing that with a case redesign to be "totally groundbreaking" blah blah blah, but I think the Apple Watch design itself works and that good and doesn't need to be changed for change sake.
 
Why are more people not thinking that Apple did this to track leaks? Intentionally have different pieces of information given to different people so it is easier to trace how information getting out. Flat edge Apple Watch is tantalizing enough to get out and spread and would allow Apple to know where the leak came from.

In additional, I think the idea that Apple would release an entirely new display tech and new size of Apple Watch, only to ditch it next year is just silly. The new screen and case size will stick around for this year and next year for sure. 2023 would be the first year for a major redesign. Next year will be adding features to this series 7 minor redesign.

Lastly, do we really need a major redesign? I own a series 4 and will be upgrading to the series 7 and giving my watch to my dad to use for heart monitoring. Other than missing the always on display during workouts and the fact I want my dad to the notifications, I wouldn't want to upgrade. Not only because the feature set isn't worth the price, but also because I am just happy with what I have. It does what I want it to do. It looks fine (not a high end watch and not ugly to me), so why exactly is a redesign needed? I think Apple knows this as well. If there is some groundbreaking feature they release, I could maybe see them pairing that with a case redesign to be "totally groundbreaking" blah blah blah, but I think the Apple Watch design itself works and that good and doesn't need to be changed for change sake.

The satellite phone support was a much better leak finder. After the iPad goes flat and the iPhone goes flat anyone could plausibly claim they guessed the Watch would go flat. So if Apple fired anyone for that “leak” I would expect them to lose the unfair dismissal lawsuit hard.
 
I have a more prosaic opinion what really happened.

What If Apple under Tim Cook is still the same Apple under Tim Cook?

Numbers
What If the CAD is actually Apple Watch 8?
What If it just simply better from Cook's business wise view to split innovations separately into two products? AW7 get display and AW8 gets chassis?

We miss you, Steve.
 
It was definitely a last-minute change. And the proof of this is an Apple’s phone series 7 introduction video where accidentally they showed the new watch design on a swimmer. You can see it for a few seconds.

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It's actually a surfer, and yes, that's just the regular Apple Watch design with a bit of under water distortion.

Same shot, different angle:
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So, I have this new theory: For security reasons, Posser had to meet his source while diving. Aparently, Apple Watch edges can look very flat under water, that's how the rumor started.
 
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Going into an Apple fall season, excitement typically revolves around the new iPhones. This year, however, the Apple Watch stole some of the iPhone's spotlight due to reports, leaks, and rumors suggesting it would be getting a significant redesign.

apple-watch-series-7-mystery.png

One of the biggest surprises during Apple's "California streaming" event was the new Apple Watch, not because of the features or design it included, but instead, the features and designs it didn't.

Flat-Edged Design? Not so fast...

In the weeks and months leading up to the event, credible reports from reliable journalists and leakers suggested the new Apple Watch would be sporting a flat-edged design. The first time we heard of the 2021 Apple Watch getting a redesign was from Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who stated in September of 2020, exactly a year before Apple's "California streaming" event, that the new watch will receive a "significant redesign" in 2021 "at the earliest."

In the months that followed Kuo's report, rumors were quiet and stale regarding the 2021 Apple Watch as the focus shifted to more immediate products released throughout 2020. The second time we heard and saw the alleged redesign for the Apple Watch was from Apple leaker Jon Prosser, who in May shared renders depicting an Apple Watch with fully flat-edges, similar to the iPhone and iPad.

prosser-apple-watch-series-7.jpg

In the video sharing the renders, Prosser noted that the renders, he believed, showcased the Apple Watch Series 7, given that Kuo had previously mentioned a significant redesign. Prosser, at the time, however, could not confidently label the design he leaked as the upcoming Apple Watch but became increasingly confident in doing so as the weeks and months went on.

apple-watch-s7-silver.jpg

Shortly after, in June, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reported several aspects of the Apple Watch Series 7 that turned out to be accurate. In his first report for the new watch, Gurman noted that it would have a larger display with thinner bezels, a new lamination technique, and a faster processor. Gurman pointed out that the Series 7 would include updated ultra wideband capabilities, but that doesn't seem to be the case now.

In reports and newsletters after, Gurman reported that the Apple Watch Series 7 would feature flat-edges, corroborating Prosser's previously showcased renders. Gurman, however, accurately stated the Series 7 would be equipped with new watch faces, bands and feature significantly more pixels with a redesigned display.

Is miscommunication to blame?

apple-watch-series-7-aluminum-colors.jpg

Given that Kuo, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, and leaker Jon Prosser, the most reputable sources for Apple's unreleased product plans, have all reported a flat-edged Apple Watch, it's difficult to dispute its existence within the walls of Apple's labs and offices.

The Apple Watch is a product that garners many rumors and reports, specifically targeting future health capabilities. Recent reporting suggests that next year's Apple Watch, the Series 8, will feature more powerful health sensors and features. Our expectations and the reports of a flat-edged design may have simply been wrongly attributed to the Series 7, while Apple's plans for a complete redesign were aimed for 2022 all along.

Apple is a company that builds on yearly iterative improvements, building on features to achieve an even more all-encompassing product, and that is especially the case for the Apple Watch. With the Series 7, Apple is adding a larger display, improved battery life and energy efficiency, and is elevating the experience of watchOS 8. Using these upgrades, the company is further prepared to launch a redesign of the Apple Watch next year, featuring flat-edges and advanced health sensors.

Alternatively, but highly unlikely, is that Apple made last-minute design changes to the Apple Watch due to production issues. Two weeks before the Series 7 was announced, a report revealed that Apple and its suppliers were struggling to reach "satisfactory" quality levels of the device during "small-scale" production.

While some may speculate the possibility that coupled with the Apple Watch's small footprint and rumored flat-edges, Apple had to suddenly make last-minute design changes, it's worth noting that Apple plans and tests products months, if not years in advance, so it would certainly be unprecedented and nearly impossible for the company to have altered its plans at such a late date.

One thing, however, is for sure, whether or not last-minute design changes were made to the Series 7, is that it's a peculiar release. For example, on Apple's website, the company lacks offering specifications for the new watch, leaving only marketing material boasting about the new and larger display and the features in watchOS 8.

Most striking of all is the lack of information regarding availability and prices for the Apple Watch Series 7. Apple only states it's coming later this fall, which leaves the door open for a release as late as November, and the lack of information regarding pricing beyond the starting price of $399.

Conclusion

Of course, we'll never know for certain what happened and whether Apple had last-minute design changes, or whether all of the previous rumors and reports were simply meant for the Series 8, rather than the Series 7. As stated above, Apple hasn't provided any dates on availability or pricing for the Apple Watch Series 7 and may do so during its rumored second event for the fall, now expected to headline new Apple silicon Macs.

Article Link: What Went Wrong: Apple Watch Series 7 Rumors Edition


Going into an Apple fall season, excitement typically revolves around the new iPhones. This year, however, the Apple Watch stole some of the iPhone's spotlight due to reports, leaks, and rumors suggesting it would be getting a significant redesign.

apple-watch-series-7-mystery.png

One of the biggest surprises during Apple's "California streaming" event was the new Apple Watch, not because of the features or design it included, but instead, the features and designs it didn't.

Flat-Edged Design? Not so fast...

In the weeks and months leading up to the event, credible reports from reliable journalists and leakers suggested the new Apple Watch would be sporting a flat-edged design. The first time we heard of the 2021 Apple Watch getting a redesign was from Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who stated in September of 2020, exactly a year before Apple's "California streaming" event, that the new watch will receive a "significant redesign" in 2021 "at the earliest."

In the months that followed Kuo's report, rumors were quiet and stale regarding the 2021 Apple Watch as the focus shifted to more immediate products released throughout 2020. The second time we heard and saw the alleged redesign for the Apple Watch was from Apple leaker Jon Prosser, who in May shared renders depicting an Apple Watch with fully flat-edges, similar to the iPhone and iPad.

prosser-apple-watch-series-7.jpg

In the video sharing the renders, Prosser noted that the renders, he believed, showcased the Apple Watch Series 7, given that Kuo had previously mentioned a significant redesign. Prosser, at the time, however, could not confidently label the design he leaked as the upcoming Apple Watch but became increasingly confident in doing so as the weeks and months went on.

apple-watch-s7-silver.jpg

Shortly after, in June, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reported several aspects of the Apple Watch Series 7 that turned out to be accurate. In his first report for the new watch, Gurman noted that it would have a larger display with thinner bezels, a new lamination technique, and a faster processor. Gurman pointed out that the Series 7 would include updated ultra wideband capabilities, but that doesn't seem to be the case now.

In reports and newsletters after, Gurman reported that the Apple Watch Series 7 would feature flat-edges, corroborating Prosser's previously showcased renders. Gurman, however, accurately stated the Series 7 would be equipped with new watch faces, bands and feature significantly more pixels with a redesigned display.

Is miscommunication to blame?

apple-watch-series-7-aluminum-colors.jpg

Given that Kuo, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, and leaker Jon Prosser, the most reputable sources for Apple's unreleased product plans, have all reported a flat-edged Apple Watch, it's difficult to dispute its existence within the walls of Apple's labs and offices.

The Apple Watch is a product that garners many rumors and reports, specifically targeting future health capabilities. Recent reporting suggests that next year's Apple Watch, the Series 8, will feature more powerful health sensors and features. Our expectations and the reports of a flat-edged design may have simply been wrongly attributed to the Series 7, while Apple's plans for a complete redesign were aimed for 2022 all along.

Apple is a company that builds on yearly iterative improvements, building on features to achieve an even more all-encompassing product, and that is especially the case for the Apple Watch. With the Series 7, Apple is adding a larger display, improved battery life and energy efficiency, and is elevating the experience of watchOS 8. Using these upgrades, the company is further prepared to launch a redesign of the Apple Watch next year, featuring flat-edges and advanced health sensors.

Alternatively, but highly unlikely, is that Apple made last-minute design changes to the Apple Watch due to production issues. Two weeks before the Series 7 was announced, a report revealed that Apple and its suppliers were struggling to reach "satisfactory" quality levels of the device during "small-scale" production.

While some may speculate the possibility that coupled with the Apple Watch's small footprint and rumored flat-edges, Apple had to suddenly make last-minute design changes, it's worth noting that Apple plans and tests products months, if not years in advance, so it would certainly be unprecedented and nearly impossible for the company to have altered its plans at such a late date.

One thing, however, is for sure, whether or not last-minute design changes were made to the Series 7, is that it's a peculiar release. For example, on Apple's website, the company lacks offering specifications for the new watch, leaving only marketing material boasting about the new and larger display and the features in watchOS 8.

Most striking of all is the lack of information regarding availability and prices for the Apple Watch Series 7. Apple only states it's coming later this fall, which leaves the door open for a release as late as November, and the lack of information regarding pricing beyond the starting price of $399.

Conclusion

Of course, we'll never know for certain what happened and whether Apple had last-minute design changes, or whether all of the previous rumors and reports were simply meant for the Series 8, rather than the Series 7. As stated above, Apple hasn't provided any dates on availability or pricing for the Apple Watch Series 7 and may do so during its rumored second event for the fall, now expected to headline new Apple silicon Macs.

Article Link: What Went Wrong: Apple Watch Series 7 Rumors Edition
Apple Watch AirPower edition
 
My opinion, I’ve never seen rumors this horribly wrong and whichever editors contributors this need replaced. Other then 120hz they got nothing right this entire launch, they even botched the colors. Embarrassing.
 
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And what about in display finger print, also was scrapped last minute, or other leakers fails ?
 
For me, the most likely scenario is that the redesign depicted is mostly correct, however it just over time became incorrectly attributed to the Series 7 and that was actually meant for the Series 8 all along. Guess we'll find out in about 12 months.
I find it hard to believe Apple would’ve made the screen larger only to have another redesign a year later. Unless, the AW S7 will become the next SE model.
 
Prosser‘s latest YouTube video is very interesting and he said what I said a couple days ago and that is that Apple did have a flat square design but had manufacturing issues and had to switch to a contingency replacement at the 11th hour which is the watch we are waiting for.. He even evidences from the keynote, the switch from iPad to Apple Watch was very amateurish, not seamless and didn’t flow and that’s because they had to re-film the announcement for Apple Watch to market the contingency model. He also says that the S7 isn’t even in production yet and won’t start for another two week And even that isn’t certain which is why Apple cannot even state which month the watch will be available for order
 
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a flat-edged design for the watch never looked comfortable. wouldn't the edges be digging into your skin especially when you're exercising?
 
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It’s quite possible that they were ‘official’ leaks designed to catch leakers. Hopefully they did.
 
cue the flood of explainer videos on YouTube about this Apple Watch rumor gone bad.
 
I think it's pretty clear that the flat-edge design definitely does exist and was originally intended to be released at the Sept 14 event, but due to manufacturing issues, had to be put on the back-burner at the very last minute. *enter slightly tweaked Watch 7*

Now I'm just wondering if Apple will wait a full product release cycle to lapse before introducing the flat-edge Watch.
 
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Prosser‘s latest YouTube video is very interesting and he said what I said a couple days ago and that is that Apple did have a flat square design but had manufacturing issues and had to switch to a contingency replacement at the 11th hour which is the watch we are waiting for.. He even evidences from the keynote, the switch from iPad to Apple Watch was very amateurish, not seamless and didn’t flow and that’s because they had to re-film the announcement for Apple Watch to market the contingency model. He also says that the S7 isn’t even in production yet and won’t start for another two week And even that isn’t certain which is why Apple cannot even state which month the watch will be available for order
If I was Prosser and was trying to save face, I might claim the same thing.

It is just not plausible to me that Apple would switch to a contingency replacement at the 11th hour but that contingency replacement is actually also an all-new design with a more curved body, a face crystal that blends into the curves and wraps the watch face numbers to the sides, and an all new edge to edge screen.

Unless by "11th hour" he means "mid 2020".

Remind me, what if anything makes Prosser credible and worth listening to??
 
"...Of course, we'll never know for certain what happened..."

How can the Macrumors writer make such a statement? It is possible that the details will come out in a future book or via other means from someone involved in the situation.
Apple’s attorneys may have something to say about that.
 
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