What's New With the iPhone 16 Displays

[mscice]

is it me or apple is just lacking steve jobs / jony ?

its 2025 soon and we have 60hz recycled screens, USB2 ? come on

now i know why they have these trade in offers for old phones, recycle the hardware and sell it as new!

 

[lenningj]

Base 16 is the winner of the announcement I think, captures to me most of what people want in the phone witout blowing around the $/£1k mark for the pro.

 

[coolfactor]

While people seem to want and celebrate thin bezels as they are nice to look at, I find the 15 pro to be too thin and impact usability. I constantly get false taps from just holding the device so scrolling becomes zooming, or apps randomly open. I suppose the solution would be to use a case, which then seems to defeat the purpose of the thin bezel in the first place. Hopefully the 16 does better in this regard, but I won’t hold my breath.

This. 👆 Thin bezels might be pretty, but usability suffers.

 

[svish]

No major changes than the minimum 1 nit brightness. That might be useful in some cases for Always on Display.

 

[Kottu]

$800 for a phone with 60hz screen in 2024 is great achievement for being Apple! (🤮)
Most of the hyped features are coming in ”Future” so early adopters of iPhone 16 series are basically getting a new shiny iPhone 15 with an extra button on it. If iPhone 17 is not keeping up with the expectations of normal Apple users, I will break the ecosystem. I have survived many years with just a Mac and Android so, I can very well do it again.

 

[grovian]

You forgot to mention the color accuracy. And no, the display is not like every other phone out there. Samsung does make very good displays at the high-end, but they are not the same as the displays they manufacture to Apple's specs, requirements and exacting standards.

Nonsense. Samsung uses their top level screens on their own phones obviously. Also on Android phones users can tweak the color to whatever they want although Apple's unchangeable tweak is pretty good.

 

[Magnusson]

Are they same aspect ratio or actually a bit taller?

 

[MilaM]

I love ProMotion, but to say 60hz refresh on Apple's non-Pro iPhones makes them look laggy is unfair. The displays are fine-tuned to be extraordinarily performant.

NTSC was also good enough with 60 Hz 🙃.

Granted, I don't even notice it that much on my small iPhone 13. But 120 Hz seems to be state of the art now.

Edit: Yes I know, NTSC's refresh rate was interlaced, so effectively 30 Hz.

 

[klasma]

unbelieveable refresh rates

Yes, it's unbelievable the non-Pros are still just 60 Hz.

breakthrough durability

Hopefully it doesn't break through. 😅

 

[klasma]

I could give a ****. Just make the screen more scratch resistant like my 12 and 13 Pro.

From 14 and 15 I get micro scratches from the phone being exposed to thin air I'm pretty sure.

And the 12/13 were already significantly more scratch-prone than the SE1 I had before.

 

[urtules]

When was the last time you traveled outside of Europe or North America?

There are more Huawai users in mainland china than Apple users on Earth…
You realize that right?
They have massive ecosystem.

They are not the best phones. But for the price and the market they are top notch.

China's population is 1.412 billion, and there's 1.382 billion active iPhone users, some of them live in China.

Anyway, since when number of users means anything. Good luck claiming that Windows better than macOS because more people use it.

What you saying there's cheaper options there on the market, fair enough. No need to be outraged about this. Price is not the reason people love their iPhones.

 

[nubero]

I never had an iPhone screen as scratched up as that of my 12 mini. The first phone with this so called marketing bullsh… I mean, ceramic shield. I kept all the four iPhones I had before in my trouser pocket by themselves and did so with the 12 mini as well. The latter is totally scratched up why the others look brand new. My guess is they simply use a softer glass which won’t break as easily when the device falls down but scratches ore easily as a downside.

 

[urtules]

This. 👆 Thin bezels might be pretty, but usability suffers.

This is just my opinion, your experience could be different. I can speculate that the same argument applies to the original iPhone when switching from a traditional dumb phone with a keyboard. The original iPhone had tremendously fewer bezels and somehow people adjusted. As I use my 13 mini more and more I don't have any accidental input lately. So I think it is a matter of adjusting, and not necessarily worse comfort.

 

[urtules]

$800 for a phone with 60hz screen in 2024 is great achievement for being Apple! (🤮)
Most of the hyped features are coming in ”Future” so early adopters of iPhone 16 series are basically getting a new shiny iPhone 15 with an extra button on it.

Not just one extra button, but two. Plus extra RAM, 2 years worth of CPU improvements, extra strong glass, Spatial capture, Macro, Anti-reflective lens coating, extra 2 hours of battery life, faster wireless charging, 1 nit minimum brightness

 

[neuropsychguy]

I wonder if those arguing about 60 Hz as laggy will say that if they only use 60 Hz screens for a while. For example, cut out the use of all 144, 120, etc screens and just use 60 Hz all the time for a week. Will a 60 Hz screen still appear laggy to you?

In other words, do 60 Hz screens appear laggy or do they only appear so in direct comparison to a 120 Hz screen?

I know people have a range of sensitivities, but I use a 144 Hz and a 60 Hz screen on my computer all day and can rarely tell the difference in refresh rates. Only when I’m trying to, but I also know which screen has a lower refresh rate so I’m biased.

None of my comment should be interpreted as saying Apple should stick with 60 Hz screens in devices. I’m simply wondering if the “problems” of 60 Hz screens are there if you only have 60 Hz screens available.

 

[CaptainV]

I miss a anti-glare coating similar like the S24 Ultra...

 

[SoldOnApple]

They need to find a way to put cameras and censors under the display somehow, get rid of the Dynamic Island when there's nothing in it.

 

[SoldOnApple]

Yup, complete lack of competition in the US market made Apple to stop any innovation and interestingly Samsung as well. Apple is now only the 5th largest phone manufacturer in China and will probably fall even further.

No need to innovate. Apple moved early on smartphones, and from day one they had glass multitouch IPS displays. Get it right from the start and you'll always stand out from the competition, no one has ever experienced an iPhone with a plastic screen, or a single touch screen. Meanwhile early Androids were made with those old technologies in the millions, millions of people had truly crummy experiences with Android. Apple doesn't want to rush out and make a foldable screen that doesn't quite work, that changes things for no reason and frustrates users who were unlucky enough to buy one. Get it right from the start and people will remember that.

 

[nottorp]

This. 👆 Thin bezels might be pretty, but usability suffers.

I've given up hope. Now I believe that the only way for Apple to get rid of its thinness fetish would be for Cook to get replaced. Getting rid of Ive clearly wasn't enough.

No major changes than the minimum 1 nit brightness. That might be useful in some cases for Always on Display.

You know where it would really be useful? On an iPad for reading in bed with lights off.

Now I just have to wait for the tech to percolate down to the entry level iPad, I'm not paying for a Pro just to read and browse the web.

 

[RigSatMe]

No essential evolvement! Let’s wait for iPhone 17 line up in terms of the screen

 

[jimothyGator]

Yup, complete lack of competition in the US market made Apple to stop any innovation and interestingly Samsung as well. Apple is now only the 5th largest phone manufacturer in China and will probably fall even further.

"Complete lack of competition in the US market…Samsung as well".

I'll just wait for you to see the irony of this statement yourself.

 

[macsummerside]

You state the iPhone 16 Pro has a 8.5mm depth, but the Apple website states it is 8.25mm

 

[9081094]

is it me or apple is just lacking steve jobs / jony ?

its 2025 soon and we have 60hz recycled screens, USB2 ? come on

now i know why they have these trade in offers for old phones, recycle the hardware and sell it as new!

I personally don’t miss Jony that much. He was too obsessed with making things thinner and losing ports. He made very nice products in the past, but in the end he was too busy decorating the new Apple campus and lost focus on all the products that made it possible for Apple to build a new campus.

 

[GrayFlannel]

Huawei released a smartphone with a 10-inch tri-folding screen just hours after Apple unveiled the iPhone 16. Apparently 5m units have been presold at a price of $2800. 😲

 

[cyb3rdud3]

They should have at least changed the name of the screen on base models, what's the point of it being called Super Retina XDR OLED, HDR10, Dolby Vision when it looks laggy compared to a $100 120hz phone?

A $100 120hz android phone? Nope, nah, no thank you. I value myself too much for that. That is just the good old spec sheet trick where they throw everything at it, and on a spec list comparison it sounds amazing. But looking at it, using it, it just isn't very good.

And Huawei, never in a million years. A company that is banned from critical infrastructure provision, a company that fakes their Android security updates (yup really, check the security patch number and then check the packages and finger print it, decent MDM systems have wisen't up to their tricks). No I wouldn't trust my activities on such a device.