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I find myself lucky if I can actively (and actually) engage them for twenty minutes!

I'm in a PRTF, and a lot of the really fun stuff is just not feasible ;(

So they aren’t particularly interested? 😅

Summer break is progressing well. I concluded my state fellowship with a thoughtful farewell and a huge clap-out during WWDC week and began my engineering internship with Revamp yesterday. packed schedule yesterday, but conditions stabilized after orientation, main tasks as I review drawings and implement revisions before submission to the PEs and senior engineers.
 
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So they aren’t particularly interested? 😅

Sure they are . . . particularly in what they each, individually like 🙄

Summer break is progressing well. I concluded my state fellowship with a thoughtful farewell and a huge clap-out during WWDC week and began my engineering internship with Revamp yesterday. packed schedule yesterday, but conditions stabilized after orientation, main tasks as I review drawings and implement revisions before submission to the PEs and senior engineers.

Nice flow . . . enjoy the experiences!
 
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Sure they are . . . particularly in what they each, individually like 🙄



Nice flow . . . enjoy the experiences!
understandable. sometimes they just have to explore their interests amongst these things.

yep. I had been shadowing my entry level colleagues, the senior engineers, and inspecting the drawings.
 
In fact, I want to draw attention to something very important that's almost never brought up - the dichotomy of educational models, and questions surrounding why people choose one over the other.

To my knowledge, at the four-year undergraduate level, there are two distinct models/types: liberal arts colleges and research universities. The former are typically small, student-centered, and take a very broad approach to learning, emphasizing the idea that by taking many courses in multiple areas (while still specializing in one discipline/"major"), that a student is better-equipped for a changing society. On the other hand, large, public universities tend to focus on research, and their approach to careers and programs is more linear as a result.

Both models are important in their own ways, and everyone has their own take on which one suits them better as a student. However, I do believe this question extends much further, and I think it is fascinating to think about how a student ends up at either type of institution. Financial reasons aside (not discounting as I know this is important, but looking beyond that), I think it is an issue of priorities and values. What is to be gained from the education, how will it impact your professional life, and how does this choice affect your "status in society."

I only have perspective on tech, engineering, business, etc. as an outsider - I've never studied those things. I would be very curious to hear any of your takes on this, especially those in/from engineering programs, because I only have this perspective as an outsider, and I feel that by getting your perspective, perhaps I can better understand the meaning and influence that such a program has had on your life and career.

I do find it somewhat strange that I'm thinking about these questions and issues before I've even graduated college, as many people I've talked to about this are much older. I do think this is an important discussion and these two models should be examined thoughtfully, without subjective judgement.

Of course, these two models are just two - and it's not safe to think in such a black-and-white way, but for the sake of a forum post, that's how I'm going to frame this.
 
What is to be gained from the education, how will it impact your professional life, and how does this choice affect your "status in society."

Such a strong emphasis on "knowing" this at the beginning, when it really takes getting one's feet stuck in the wet concrete multiple, multiple times for a person to actually understand such things.

One of the greatest moments of learning that I have experienced is when I share with my teenagers that I'm in my 6th Career . . . to be able to sway even one person from completely occupying a deterministic (née 'fatalistic') attitude is a successful lesson in my Book 😉
 
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I'm so far removed from anything science or engineering. Clearly, it's a very different world from anything I'm involved in. It's amazing what you're doing, though.
Thank you 🙏 it’s been packed on the first day lol 😂

Last week marked the end of my state fellowship and I hit company records in marketing with California schools on the importance of equity partnerships. It was a bittersweet moment to leave a company that I had been working with especially since my managerial team has been very supportive of me. We also get bonuses for punctual attendance in our team meetings, and even when we do third-party initiatives for our audiences to promote services.

In fact, I want to draw attention to something very important that's almost never brought up - the dichotomy of educational models, and questions surrounding why people choose one over the other.

To my knowledge, at the four-year undergraduate level, there are two distinct models/types: liberal arts colleges and research universities. The former are typically small, student-centered, and take a very broad approach to learning, emphasizing the idea that by taking many courses in multiple areas (while still specializing in one discipline/"major"), that a student is better-equipped for a changing society. On the other hand, large, public universities tend to focus on research, and their approach to careers and programs is more linear as a result.

Both models are important in their own ways, and everyone has their own take on which one suits them better as a student. However, I do believe this question extends much further, and I think it is fascinating to think about how a student ends up at either type of institution. Financial reasons aside (not discounting as I know this is important, but looking beyond that), I think it is an issue of priorities and values. What is to be gained from the education, how will it impact your professional life, and how does this choice affect your "status in society."

I only have perspective on tech, engineering, business, etc. as an outsider - I've never studied those things. I would be very curious to hear any of your takes on this, especially those in/from engineering programs, because I only have this perspective as an outsider, and I feel that by getting your perspective, perhaps I can better understand the meaning and influence that such a program has had on your life and career.

I do find it somewhat strange that I'm thinking about these questions and issues before I've even graduated college, as many people I've talked to about this are much older. I do think this is an important discussion and these two models should be examined thoughtfully, without subjective judgement.

Of course, these two models are just two - and it's not safe to think in such a black-and-white way, but for the sake of a forum post, that's how I'm going to frame this.
For me, I’ve been involved in getting a STEM career since I started getting into tech with my passion for Apple.

It evolved where I got into engineering over computers when I looked into elevators in buildings. Then I started working with NASA in sophomore year as my first internship- twice. I brought my interests into a passion into broader fields- including aerospace engineering and even solar/electrical.
 
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What's on my mind is that I am now officially a college graduate, as of last Sunday. 🙂The weather was perfect on the day of the ceremony, and it was such a beautiful moment of having so much of my family (as well as a few friends who already graduated) there happy for me. Of course I have no idea what the future will be like (though I won't be done with this "school edition" thread since I'm starting graduate school in the fall), but I'm feeling positive about what's to come for now.

As far as this summer goes, I have several post-graduation trips planned. Tomorrow, my friends and I leave for a wedding in the Seychelles, and then we're headed to Korea. Should be a fun few weeks and a perfect way to celebrate the achievements of the last four years.
 
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