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Playing PC games now require so much better hardware. Thus, making me spend more money. Maybe I should revert to not playing PC games anymore...
 
What's the big deal with grilling? Maybe because I was not raised 'grilling out', I just don't get it. And, not to mention all the tools, some people have for grilling...
I hear you.

This strikes me (and I have attended barbecues) as something best suited to warm climates.

Not really all that suitable for my relatively cold (or cool, and certainly overcast) corner of north west Europe.
Well it’s like a picnic where you can also prepare your own meat cuts and sausages- I guess it all comes down to personal preference.
Standing around, attempting to clutch paper plates (and simultaneously trying to hold - or sip from - a beer) while wielding cutlery (worse, plastic cutlery, perfectly useless for grilled meats) has never struck me as a fun thing to do. An outdoor grill, tongs, an apron, a high temperature and meat do not, of themselves, a good chef make.

Anyway, I'm old school, and am both a good cook, and yes, a greedy gourmand; a table (yes, an outdoor, sturdy wooden table is fine), chairs, or decent seating, proper crockery and cutlery, decent glassware, (no plastic or paper cups, thank you), serious napkins, and good company, (not to mention fine weather), and I can be reconciled with the concept.
 
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I hear you.

This strikes me (and I have attended barbecues) as something best suited to warm climates.

Not really all that suitable for my relatively cold (or cool, and certainly overcast) corner of north weat Europe.

Standing around, attempting to clutch paper plates (and hold a beer) while wielding cutlery (worse, plastic cutlery, perfectly useless for grilled meats) has never struck me as a fun thing to do. An outdoor grill, tongs, an apron, a high temperature and meat do not, of themselves, a good chef make.

Anyway, I'm old school, and am both a good cook, and yes, a greedy gourmand; a table (yes, an outdoor, sturdy wooden table is fine), chairs, or decent seating, proper crockery and cutlery, decent glassware, serious napkins, and good company, (not to mention fine weather), and I can be reconciled with the concept.

How you facilitate the seating and what materials your plates are made of are of course entirely up to you and not related in the slightest to the idea of chargrilling in the open. Snobby response though, I give you that.
 
I hear you.

This strikes me (and I have attended barbecues) as something best suited to warm climates.

Not really all that suitable for my relatively cold (or cool, and certainly overcast) corner of north weat Europe.

Standing around, attempting to clutch paper plates (and hold a beer) while wielding cutlery (worse, plastic cutlery, perfectly useless for grilled meats) has never struck me as a fun thing to do. An outdoor grill, tongs, an apron, a high temperature and meat do not, of themselves, a good chef make.

Anyway, I'm old school, and am both a good cook, and yes, a greedy gourmand; a table (yes, an outdoor, sturdy wooden table is fine), chairs, or decent seating, proper crockery and cutlery, decent glassware, serious napkins, and good company, (not to mention fine weather), and I can be reconciled with the concept.
I got rid of our BBQ as we used it about once every 5 years. Not really a fan. We’ll have a works BBQ in the summer, but basically it’s just burgers or sausages in buns as that’s easy to eat. Mostly people just drink the beer. Well those who aren’t driving.
 
How you facilitate the seating and what materials your plates are made of are of course entirely up to you and not related in the slightest to the idea of chargrilling in the open. Snobby response though, I give you that.

Not snobby, merely seeking to satisfy some standards.

Most grills I have attended are of the burned meat, paper plates (and cutlery) plastic cups, standing around, (attempting to balance food, drink) pretending to enjoy yourself, variety.

The food is often dire, (tongs, outdoor flames, high temperatures, sturdy professional aprons do not, of themselves necessarily lead to someone being a good chef) while the company and weather and conversation are all too frequently indifferent.

Now, I get that I am not from a culture that is comfortable with the concept of grilling - and our cool (and often overcast) climate probably has something to do with that.

Nevertheless, to my mind, grilling is up there with champagne - they are both something that I find to be very over-rated.
 
It can also matter where you live. In areas where you have winter and cold weather for 6 months, it's great to go out in the sunshine and warm weather and just hang out with friends, food and drinks and enjoy a warm breeze. Food just tastes...better when its grilled outside. Psychological maybe, but it does.

No it does. Especially when you drop it on the ground first. 😂
 
Not snobby, merely seeking to satisfy some standards.

Most grills I have attended are of the burned meat, paper plates (and cutlery) plastic cups, standing around, (attempting to balance food, drink) pretending to enjoy yourself, variety.

The food is often dire, (tongs, outdoor flames, high temperatures, sturdy professional aprons do not, of themselves necessarily lead to someone being a good chef) while the company and weather and conversation are all too frequently indifferent.

Now, I get that I am not from a culture that is comfortable with the concept of grilling - and our cool (and often overcast) climate probably has something to do with that.

Nevertheless, to my mind, grilling is up there with champagne - they are both something that I find to be very over-rated.
Unfortunately you have attended what appear to be poorly organized and poorly funded work related functions. I am basing that statement on the fact that the company and conversation were indifferent and the food poorly done.

If you attend a BBQ event hosted and attended by good friends who enjoy good food, drink and conversation it can be a great experience. I have both attended and hosted these events or dinners in Canada during the hot summer (30+ degrees) and in the winter (-25) and in all seasons in between. I have done the same since moving to Northern Europe. Of course, in the winter the eating takes place inside but the cook and good friends monitor the BBQ outside while enjoying their beverage of choice.

We have grilled steak, salmon on a cedar plank, scallops, large prawns, asparagus, mushrooms, chicken, and a host of other items. I have also attended and enjoyed these events where the food was simple, sausages and burgers. As long as the food is grilled properly, the beverages are decent and the attendees are interesting folks, hard to go wrong.

Climate is not an excuse for a poor experience. You just have to mix with people who enjoy this type of entertaining and ensure that it is done with a bit of planning.
 
Not snobby, merely seeking to satisfy some standards.

Most grills I have attended are of the burned meat, paper plates (and cutlery) plastic cups, standing around, (attempting to balance food, drink) pretending to enjoy yourself, variety.

The food is often dire, (tongs, outdoor flames, high temperatures, sturdy professional aprons do not, of themselves necessarily lead to someone being a good chef) while the company and weather and conversation are all too frequently indifferent.

Now, I get that I am not from a culture that is comfortable with the concept of grilling - and our cool (and often overcast) climate probably has something to do with that.

Nevertheless, to my mind, grilling is up there with champagne - they are both something that I find to be very over-rated.

Interesting though that you’d chime in and attempt to provide context on an activity that you perceive as overrated. To each their own. I have had many nice grilling evenings in plenty places around the world, and like any meal, it’s in your hands what you make of it. Beer and paper plates are not specific to grilling and can happen anywhere.
 
Unfortunately you have attended what appear to be poorly organized and poorly funded work related functions. I am basing that statement on the fact that the company and conversation were indifferent and the food poorly done.

If you attend a BBQ event hosted and attended by good friends who enjoy good food, drink and conversation it can be a great experience. I have both attended and hosted these events or dinners in Canada during the hot summer (30+ degrees) and in the winter (-25) and in all seasons in between. I have done the same since moving to Northern Europe. Of course, in the winter the eating takes place inside but the cook and good friends monitor the BBQ outside while enjoying their beverage of choice.

We have grilled steak, salmon on a cedar plank, scallops, large prawns, asparagus, mushrooms, chicken, and a host of other items. I have also attended and enjoyed these events where the food was simple, sausages and burgers. As long as the food is grilled properly, the beverages are decent and the attendees are interesting folks, hard to go wrong.

Climate is not an excuse for a poor experience. You just have to mix with people who enjoy this type of entertaining and ensure that it is done with a bit of planning.

Very well said, totally agree.
 
Grilling under the right circumstances can be wonderful. Frozen hamburger patties and cheap hotdogs are not it.

In other news, an acquaintance from my college days in dorm passed away last week and I and some of his former roomates were invited to his funeral. Had not seen him for some years, he was already the oldest in the dorm at the time (over two decades ago) and had been undergoing dialysis for some years. The ceremony and burial took place yesterday and family was present, it was a nice non-denominational affair. He was still in his late 60s so normally could have had some good years ahead but life is fragile.
 
Growing up we used to grill steaks, swordfish, hamburgers, hot dogs, vegetables ... whatever really -- a lot during the summers. Always a treat. I remember the nourishing aromas and finely seasoned meats. We typically ate inside after grilling but sometime we ate in the backyard. We did it with family and friends. Good times always. My vote is in favor of grilling whenever possible especially in the summer. I concede that you do need somebody who knows what they are doing at the grill to make it truly great.
 
Not snobby, merely seeking to satisfy some standards.

Most grills I have attended are of the burned meat, paper plates (and cutlery) plastic cups, standing around, (attempting to balance food, drink) pretending to enjoy yourself, variety.

The food is often dire, (tongs, outdoor flames, high temperatures, sturdy professional aprons do not, of themselves necessarily lead to someone being a good chef) while the company and weather and conversation are all too frequently indifferent.

Now, I get that I am not from a culture that is comfortable with the concept of grilling - and our cool (and often overcast) climate probably has something to do with that.

Nevertheless, to my mind, grilling is up there with champagne - they are both something that I find to be very
I agree with you about not using paper or plastic plates, cups, and utensils. But in reality what is most important during events like this is to enjoy the moment along friends and family.
 
This! So many wasted hours looking at emails you have no interest in.
I have a few more:
  • Tagging all emails sent as SUPER CRITICAL. Every. Single. One.
  • People who vote for Team Building activities during non-working hours
  • Emailing/calling you when it's your day off for stupid crap
  • Failing to check people's calendars for availability when setting up meetings
  • Setting meetings on a Friday after 2.00 PM
  • Scheduling meetings during lunch as a "Power Lunch" when your lunch time is off-the-clock
I have in several occasions butted heads over all of these, some at the same time.
 
I agree with you about not using paper or plastic plates, cups, and utensils. But in reality what is most important during events like this is to enjoy the moment along friends and family.

Actually, I think the reason for using paper or plastic plates, drinking cups and utensils is a practical one: to have quick and easy cleanup afterward, especially if there are a lot of people at the BBQ. The hosts want to have fun, too! Aside from that, it's probably also a safety precaution -- most people would prefer not to have their good china and crystal or even their everyday pottery and glassware hit the ground, which is always a possibility in a large, busy outdoor event. Better for someone to drop and lose a plastic fork in the grass somewhere than the family's good silver or stainless flatware.
 
Playing PC games now require so much better hardware. Thus, making me spend more money. Maybe I should revert to not playing PC games anymore...
that's what has me not really playing PC games anymore, plus the cost of the latest or near latest GPUs are insane and make wanting to upgrade PC parts not "fun" since they are not really obtainable.
 
I have a few more:
  • Tagging all emails sent as SUPER CRITICAL. Every. Single. One.
  • People who vote for Team Building activities during non-working hours
  • Emailing/calling you when it's your day off for stupid crap
  • Failing to check people's calendars for availability when setting up meetings
  • Setting meetings on a Friday after 2.00 PM
  • Scheduling meetings during lunch as a "Power Lunch" when your lunch time is off-the-clock
I have in several occasions butted heads over all of these, some at the same time.
I hear you. After my out of hour’s meeting this evening, I’ve had to deal with the alarm not setting at the warehouse. So much for a relaxing evening.
 
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I have a few more:
  • Tagging all emails sent as SUPER CRITICAL. Every. Single. One.
  • People who vote for Team Building activities during non-working hours
  • Emailing/calling you when it's your day off for stupid crap
  • Failing to check people's calendars for availability when setting up meetings
  • Setting meetings on a Friday after 2.00 PM
  • Scheduling meetings during lunch as a "Power Lunch" when your lunch time is off-the-clock
I have in several occasions butted heads over all of these, some at the same time.

I work at a state university, and we have zero of those problems. Everyone, including the bosses, are pretty chill.
 
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