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What's the ETA on blu rays drive's on macbooks?
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
This thread makes me laugh.
Oh... don't make light of this very serious discussion. The fate of nations hang in the balance here. The situation is dire, indeed.
I've made it clear multiple times in the past that I want Apple to support bluray and I still really quite do. Physical media serves as a proof of ownership that gives you more fair use rights to your content in the eyes of the law, like first sale doctrine style transfers or CD/DVD ripping (sorta irrelevant for bluray due to the DMCA but still). Perhaps more relevantly, as close as you sit to them, the Mac Mini and iMacs would make wonderful use of 1080p video, while the Mac Pro people probably want to make and playback blurays themselves. It's cheap, disposable and easy to mail.
However, as this is a macbook pro specific portion of the forums, to be quite honest I feel I must point out that only one of the laptops can fully resolve 1080p so bluray's a bit of a waste for most macbook pro owners. As of current, only 17" owners can use their laptop as a portable bluray player for a standardized broadcast format that's better than what iTunes offers. The rest of youwould have to crop the picture down to fit, something which most home theater enthusiasts who'd back bluray would absolutely abhor, downscale it to be closer to 720p anyway by which point iTunes is indeed just good enough or use your Macbook Pro to play the movie on an external monitor, by which point you really should be consider buying a dedicated player.
Also keep in mind that Steveo never said he dislikes bluray. I'd like people who think he's purposedly holding it back because there's no money in it for him to remember he's a major stockholder in Disney, a company that decided to exclusively backed the format. Of particular note is that all of the Pixar films have special editions in Bluray format. He just said it's a bag of hurt. There are quite a few loops that the Bluray consortium wants playback devices to support that Apple might not be willing to provide at this time.
We'll see how things go when the Macbook Pros have higher resolution screens and if Thunderbolt gains steam with home theater enthusists. Then it might be time for soviet russia's Apple to bite, assuming digital media or yet another physical device standard (I'm really hoping for an SD card type format in the future) doesn't eclipse bluray by then.
However, as this is a macbook pro specific portion of the forums, to be quite honest I feel I must point out that only one of the laptops can fully resolve 1080p so bluray's a bit of a waste for most macbook pro owners. As of current, only 17" owners can use their laptop as a portable bluray player for a standardized broadcast format that's better than what iTunes offers. The rest of youwould have to crop the picture down to fit, something which most home theater enthusiasts who'd back bluray would absolutely abhor, downscale it to be closer to 720p anyway by which point iTunes is indeed just good enough or use your Macbook Pro to play the movie on an external monitor, by which point you really should be consider buying a dedicated player.
Also keep in mind that Steveo never said he dislikes bluray. I'd like people who think he's purposedly holding it back because there's no money in it for him to remember he's a major stockholder in Disney, a company that decided to exclusively backed the format. Of particular note is that all of the Pixar films have special editions in Bluray format. He just said it's a bag of hurt. There are quite a few loops that the Bluray consortium wants playback devices to support that Apple might not be willing to provide at this time.
We'll see how things go when the Macbook Pros have higher resolution screens and if Thunderbolt gains steam with home theater enthusists. Then it might be time for soviet russia's Apple to bite, assuming digital media or yet another physical device standard (I'm really hoping for an SD card type format in the future) doesn't eclipse bluray by then.
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Just to echo your sentiments. It always amazes me how people can not look past their own point of view and realise that the world does not revolve around them.
Streaming remains a minority
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/04/19/dvd_still_sell_more_than_downloads/
tga3 said:
No, it's not. "The reports of optical media death are greatly exaggerated"
Retail packaged software will be on optical media for some time. Blu-ray and DVD movies aren't going away anytime soon either.
To completely kill optical media requires near-universal broadband penetration, which is still a ways off (latest stat I can find is 63% of US homes in Mar 09). Until then, the only way to get blu-ray quality movies to 100% of the population is, guess what, blu-ray.
I want a blu-ray drive so I can watch movies when I'm traveling. Every movie I buy is blu-ray (unless it's only out on DVD). I don't need a 1080p screen on my laptop, but I have no interest in trying to figure out how to rip and re-encode a blu-ray just so I can watch the movie on a plane.
Just to echo your sentiments. It always amazes me how people can not look past their own point of view and realise that the world does not revolve around them.
Streaming remains a minority
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/04/19/dvd_still_sell_more_than_downloads/
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Oops. I've only just realised that I replied to a post from a year ago. Funnily enough though it only cements my point. Optical media is not quite ready to die despite the predictions from the last couple of years.
Oops. I've only just realised that I replied to a post from a year ago. Funnily enough though it only cements my point. Optical media is not quite ready to die despite the predictions from the last couple of years.
The dictatorial CEO has decided for you.
He is so arrogant he actually believes he knows what's best for everyone, thereby robbing us of choices.
He's a master manipulator with thousands of cult like followers who stand by him mindlessly.
The drive you seek has been ruled out by the almighty.
We have to take into account that these "shifts" when they happen, happen very fast like landslides.
Within 2 short years the whole landscape can change dramatically. The catalyst can be one simple revolution in technology habits and all of a sudden a mainstream machination can completely change.
So even if things seem stable now for Blu-Ray, it can change just like that exponentially because these transitions don't necessarily happen at an even rate.
It's also not a matter of wether people still "need" DVDs and Blu-Rays and don't have broadband yet, its a matter of not enough of the majority needing it to support the industry. So if a big percentage of the masses move away from Blu-Ray and start downloading iTunes movies or some other future digital source and/or format, it will rupture the sales and profits of the medium which is necessary for it to continue.
Within 2 short years the whole landscape can change dramatically. The catalyst can be one simple revolution in technology habits and all of a sudden a mainstream machination can completely change.
So even if things seem stable now for Blu-Ray, it can change just like that exponentially because these transitions don't necessarily happen at an even rate.
It's also not a matter of wether people still "need" DVDs and Blu-Rays and don't have broadband yet, its a matter of not enough of the majority needing it to support the industry. So if a big percentage of the masses move away from Blu-Ray and start downloading iTunes movies or some other future digital source and/or format, it will rupture the sales and profits of the medium which is necessary for it to continue.
Apple's "HD" pretty much sucks. 720p and low bit rate, and limited to AC3 5.1 audio.
Are any of those at 1080p high bit rate and with True-HD or DTS-MA audio?
BD is already available for OS X. It's no longer an obstacle if one wants to play Blu-ray discs or movies. Plus, with discs, you don't need two backup copies of the video (i.e., two extra hard drives) for storage. Also, the Studios have more say in this than Apple or any other video distributor. They believe that discs give them more control (which is highly dubious).
I wonder what Apple is going to do when Blu-ray overtakes dvd sales.
Once the majority purchases Blu-ray discs they can't ignore it anymore, right?
But then again it's Apple...so I guess they will ignore it...
I have to quote myself here. I wrote that comment today. The comment before
mine was written on Mar 14, 2010, 02:07 PM.
Nobody has really replied to my comment...any thoughts?
All PS3's have slot loading drives, they can't be that expensive... if you do a search on google, they come up for not that much
The PS3's drive is much bigger than anything that could fit in the MBP and easily goes for 60-80 bucks on eBay... I know 'cause one of my discs got stuck in there and I made the mistake of trying to repair it myself. Would've gone smoothly, had I not broken the gosh darn plastic clip that keeps the bluray cable in place. While I've ad hoced a bit of paper plate in there to hold the cable in place make it work through the firmware update, which you should never initiate with any broken parts BTW since the firmware won't allow itself to install, I really feel I should replace the whole unit now... =\
'course I have a Fatty to begin with. I don't know if the Slim's drive would fit any better. I doubt it though.
'course I have a Fatty to begin with. I don't know if the Slim's drive would fit any better. I doubt it though.
But they're 12mm, not 9.5mm.
It could be either. Or neither.
The egg is first.
3 months after never?
Who wants another optical drive anyway, it is a waste of space.
Agreed. For me, not every device in the house need to perform every function.
I have BD drives on the server in the basement for ripping and in the PCH C200 in the A/V cabinet for my main system for ad hoc disk playback.
Laptop doesn't need it, so I don't miss it.
I understand that others may not have such a distributed system and would prefer the laptop to do it all, and not having a BD drive internally might be limiting.
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It's like the question of how many licks it takes to eat the Tootsie pop...the world may never know.
Never.
Everything is becoming cloud based slowly. Look at the air for example, no DVD drive. What do peope do? They rent or purchase via iTunes. Streaming is the future. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years for apple to remove DVD drives completely.
Everything is becoming cloud based slowly. Look at the air for example, no DVD drive. What do peope do? They rent or purchase via iTunes. Streaming is the future. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years for apple to remove DVD drives completely.
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Don't think bluray will catch on to the same extent DVD has because we are moving to streaming media... Netflix streams HD very nicely...
I don't think I will ever need a bluray drive at this rate..
Don't think bluray will catch on to the same extent DVD has because we are moving to streaming media... Netflix streams HD very nicely...
I don't think I will ever need a bluray drive at this rate..
- Nonsense. I don't have to crop a video just because its resolution is higher than that of my screen.
Also nonsense. My MacBook Pro's screen is 1680 by 1050. That is not closer to 1280 by 720 than it is to 1920 by 1080.
A resolution of 1680 by 1050 has close to double the amount of pixels that 1280 by 720 has.
Even more nonsense. Have you ever considered that perhaps not all countries' iTunes Store has all of the content that your store does? Currenty, the number of movies available on the iTunes Store in my country of residence is 1 - and that is the documentary "All Together Now" on The Beatles.