Did you show @Tigger11 the courtesy of actually taking the time to read properly - as opposed to "a quick skim" - his closely argued and thoughtful post?
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Did you show @Tigger11 the courtesy of actually taking the time to read properly - as opposed to "a quick skim" - his closely argued and thoughtful post?
Right. It's always hard to remember the future, I get that.
While waiting for time travel and other issues to resolve themselves, perhaps you should do a little research on your current avatar (the statue of Liberty) and maybe even find a different one.
Here's a clue, to get started: the statue was a gift to the USA from France, which you probably know, but its original name was "Liberty Enlightening the World".
"Liberty" was a controversial idea in the 19th century. To many people it suggested violence and revolution. Laboulaye and Bartholdi agreed that their monument should not be seen as leading an uprising, but rather as lighting the way, peacefully and lawfully. A key element was the name they gave to the Statue: Liberty Enlightening the World. Bartholdi's public monuments hailed back to classical images of a powerful, honorable national authority over any ideology. His statue of "Liberty Enlightening the World" would be above conservatism and liberalism and above radical revolutions and political turmoil. She would be an international symbol of liberty, justice, and democracy. In 1871, the Statue was transformed from idea into reality - it was to be funded, built, and presented to the United States.
This fits right into the USA's political conflicts now over whether liberty itself or liberty with justice for all is more important in our dealings with the Covid-19 pandemic. This is a public health crisis that currently washes over us without respect to anything but whether we've been infected (or immunized) yet or whether we still present a possible fresh host for the blasted thing.To the extent no one knows for sure about our own or another's virus status, and since the virus is highly contagious with potential for spikes in infections that can overwhelm (again, or for the first time) local hospital facilities and emergency responders, then it would seem to behoove us all to follow guidelines on social distancing and mask-wearing... yes, even as various regions and municipalities reopen their economies, since more of us will daily become exposed to each other and so potentially to the coronavirus.
So why on earth would you choose to ignore guidelines that even your own local authorities have likely recommended?
Right. It's always hard to remember the future, I get that.
While waiting for time travel and other issues to resolve themselves, perhaps you should do a little research on your current avatar (the statue of Liberty) and maybe even find a different one.
Here's a clue, to get started: the statue was a gift to the USA from France, which you probably know, but its original name was "Liberty Enlightening the World".
"Liberty" was a controversial idea in the 19th century. To many people it suggested violence and revolution. Laboulaye and Bartholdi agreed that their monument should not be seen as leading an uprising, but rather as lighting the way, peacefully and lawfully. A key element was the name they gave to the Statue: Liberty Enlightening the World. Bartholdi's public monuments hailed back to classical images of a powerful, honorable national authority over any ideology. His statue of "Liberty Enlightening the World" would be above conservatism and liberalism and above radical revolutions and political turmoil. She would be an international symbol of liberty, justice, and democracy. In 1871, the Statue was transformed from idea into reality - it was to be funded, built, and presented to the United States.This fits right into the USA's political conflicts now over whether liberty itself or liberty with justice for all is more important in our dealings with the Covid-19 pandemic. This is a public health crisis that currently washes over us without respect to anything but whether we've been infected (or immunized) yet or whether we still present a possible fresh host for the blasted thing.
To the extent no one knows for sure about our own or another's virus status, and since the virus is highly contagious with potential for spikes in infections that can overwhelm (again, or for the first time) local hospital facilities and emergency responders, then it would seem to behoove us all to follow guidelines on social distancing and mask-wearing... yes, even as various regions and municipalities reopen their economies, since more of us will daily become exposed to each other and so potentially to the coronavirus.
So why on earth would you choose to ignore guidelines that even your own local authorities have likely recommended?
What are the guidelines? I read the transcript of the mayors speech and it’s pretty straight forward
And what about knowing the future? What?
If you have read a transcript of a mayor's speech then you must be up to date on guidelines for how best to approach the reopening of your local economy. If not, just post a link to the transcript of his remarks and members here can probably help you figure out what he meant by whatever he said.
As for remembering the future, that was almost certainly a joke.
The short version of everything that's said to the op goes in one ear and out the other. Will never listen to anyone. There's an equal mix of story telling and wishful thinking in all his threads.
I know I don't help matters but I've always been fond of a bit of comedy. 😂
As for relaxing rules, going (or not) out etc, I can cope with all that just fine either way. It's the dread of knowing it will almost certainly be well into next year before we can confidently take international flights. And who knows what kind of restrictions will be placed on travelers.
I know I don't help matters but I've always been fond of a bit of comedy. 😂
As for relaxing rules, going (or not) out etc, I can cope with all that just fine either way. It's the dread of knowing it will almost certainly be well into next year before we can confidently take international flights. And who knows what kind of restrictions will be placed on travelers.
Yep... plus it remains to be seen how damaging all this will have been upon sports and entertainment.
For a broke upstate region but near enough to NYC to have attracted a lot of writers and artists, we have a whole lot of art, theatre and music oriented groups whose festivals or regular fall stage or concert schedules are now being cancelled.
Those notices plus uncertainties about the county and state fairs are kinda putting a dampener on usual summer plans even as the Southern Tier region of NYS gets the green light to re-open.. with precautions.
Also, NYC residents who provide summer revenues to local businesses in townships up here seem not to be coming up the way they usually do, not least because they were urged to delay opening their seasonal residences. They were also told to notify county health officials of their arrival, and informed they would be asked to self quarantine for a couple weeks afterwards. It all puts a dismal sort of flavor onto what is usually a time of welcoming back old friends and freshening up seasonal residences just in time for big blasts on the Fourth of July.
Color us a kind of faded red white and blue for the holiday this year I guess. I usually make a folk art flag for the occasion, can't decide yet on the design for this unusual year. Flag gonna fly though, whatever it ends up looking like. And there will probably still be socially distanced parades in the little towns, and picnics where maybe we need three or four blankets to sit on instead of just a couple. Wonder if by next year this time it will be more like "the old normal".
Technically it was revealed a few weeks ago and is a modified version of another vaccine they were working on. They plan on going to phase 2 human testing in a short while. It's demonstrated significant results in animals close to our genetic makeup administered the vaccine and repeatedly exposed to COVID19, whereas subjects not vaccinated caught it. Supposed to go to people who match certain criteria and are front line workers most at risk.
He/she doesn't answer questions, theres no truth to this thread, it's a fantasy thread, but quite entertaining none the less, if it wasn't so serious it would be sad, but it's laughable really, because it can not be real.
I'm on a warning from the mods, so I'm trying to be careful, if anyone looks at the figures and considers the situation in the OP's home country, there is no way a level headed citizen could make such reckless comments and feel confident.
A quite well known saying is " ignorance is bliss", seems quite appropriate here.
That’s a good one!
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If it doesn’t make sense to me why would I listen to it?
Rest of the world, shakes head.
Because "it" is not all about you.
Others also live - or, try to - on this world, and on, and in, our respective countries and continents.
My governor gets final word.
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The rest of the world might be surprised to hear that most Americans are completely oblivious to the rest of the world, by choice.
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Even if they came out with a vaccine there’s a 99.99% chance I’m not getting it.
I’ve been talking to my fellow Americans and many of us are EXTREMELY skeptical.
I’m not completely part of the anti-vaxx movement here in USA, I feel like many of their views are a bit extreme IMO
But I’m DEFINITELY skeptical and have concerns
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That is quite possibly the most poignant post in this thread thus far, I live in Australia, our rate is just over 1% (fatality) and we are still in lockdown, slowly coming out of it, but it's far from business as usual and won't be for quite a while no doubt.
Wow so sorry to hear that.
In my state it’s basically business as usual and many of us have been enjoying going out again
Hopefully Australia opens soon!
There’s a lot more to the world than just America as far as I am concerned and if they want to go on as normal then I have no issues with it whatsoever as long as they aren’t travelling to my country. Hopefully the nations taking this seriously will be operating again in good time at a minimal threat to life. Perhaps in 6 months time we’ll have the luxury of getting back to normal (as much as we can) and watching these countries that forced normality too early, recording record death tolls instead. I’ll drink to that 
There’s a lot more to the world than just America as far as I am concerned and if they want to go on as normal then I have no issues with it whatsoever as long as they aren’t travelling to my country. Hopefully the the nations taking this seriously will be operating again in good time at a minimal threat to life. Perhaps in 6 months time we’ll have the luxury of getting back to normal (as much as we can) and watching these countries that forced normality too early, recording record death tolls instead. I’ll drink to that
Well I think Trump closed our borders and stopped immigration so we should be fine.
He stopped the Chinese way early which was an excellent move
Immigration is not an issue with this virus as it doesn’t take into account visa status, it can spread via those visiting or those returning from other parts of the world. Not sure how stopping the Chinese would help in any way seeing as there are only 13 countries currently with no recorded cases and at least 2 of those are dictatorships who don’t communicate data anyway.
The rest of the world is completely aware of this.
I’m not familiar with the immigration laws in our country but I heard that basically are borders are closed to immigrants.
So then potentially sick people cant come
also, the Chinese started it so it was good stopping them first
Just curious, why so secretive as to what state you're in? It could give everyone in the thread a little more context as to your situation and why you make the decisions you do instead of just "your take" on what's being said and done where you are. Really not understanding why your location is top secret other than everyone would know exactly what was being done in your state and might be able to refute some of what you are saying and doing.
Well... per the forums own rules, one could ask for the source of the claim.
So, @Hieveryone, you claim your state has opened, including bars and restaurant, per your governor‘s order. Please cite the source for your claim.
So, @Hieveryone, you claim your state has opened, including bars and restaurant, per your governor‘s order. Please cite the source for your claim.
Most of America is open
See Reopening Plans and Mask Mandates for All 50 States (Published 2021)
Much of the country has fully reopened after a year defined by patchwork coronavirus restrictions.
And, pray remind us again, just who exactly is your governor?
Who is this enlightened soul? Which state - or where - does he (or she) hold this office?
This is not something to be especially proud of, you know.
No, "stopping immigration" is not what will make you "fine".
Testing, tracking, tracing, isolating and treating (in so far as that is possible) are what will work.
I think that it is more a case of the so-called "sick people" (latest figures from the CDC - May 15, state that those infected number in excess of 1,4 million, whereas the deaths attributed to Covid-19 come to 85,990) are already "here" (in the US) not that they "can't come".
Back to blaming the Chinese, again, are we?
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