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So now you’re uncertain whether or not there will be a spike and just guessing.

That’s fine, but based on what are you guessing?

Again, is there a chart, graph, something showing there will be one?
I base my opinions on the plethora of experts who know how viruses work and how infectious this particular virus is. It doesn't matter what people tell or show you, you'll make your own mind up anyway. *asks for charts again...
 
I base my opinions on the plethora of experts who know how viruses work and how infectious this particular virus is. It doesn't matter what people tell or show you, you'll make your own mind up anyway. *asks for charts again...

Well my opinion along with millions of Americans follows the charts
 
Read back and you'll clearly see I never said there would definitely be one. What I said was you can't assume there won't be one based on 2 weeks of relaxation. But you know all this already. We all know you don't seriously believe it's currently magically fading away. And if you do, unlucky.

Keep in mind, this thread is not to have a reasonable - or even rational - discussion about the go forward strategy [in the US], concerns, doubts, how things are faring for you in this period of slight relaxation of restriction, that is still, compared to 6 months ago, extremely limited.
 
There's bound to be flare ups/outbreaks in many parts of the world. It's how viruses work. Like the recent one in South Korea, the country that's probably most on top of it.

I'd like to think countries will act fast to isolate hotpots, but in some places, it will always be too little, too late.

I did find this chart. Can't remember where I found it, although it looks a lot like Trumps handwriting. Maybe someone can confirm?

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There's bound to be flare ups/outbreaks in many parts of the world. It's how viruses work. Like the recent one in South Korea, the country that's probably most on top of it.

I'd like to think countries will act fast to isolate hotpots, but in some places, it will always be too little, too late.

I did find this chart. Can't remember where I found it, although it looks a lot like Trumps handwriting. Maybe someone can confirm?

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Its just hard to believe without proof
 
I'm kinda sad. The roads were so nice and peaceful in SoCal. Freeways were empty with no traffic. I'm going to miss that.

Other than that, life hasn't really changed yet.
 
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I think a lot of states have eased restrictions or completely done away with them.

In my state the “stay at home” order is over thank goodness. Finally.

What’s the first thing you’re doing now that we’re free again? Haha
I'm gonna wait for all the lower IQ people go out first and see what happens a few weeks later. I'm in no hurry to die!
 
They haven’t been right about the wave based on the link I posted but yes we can’t assume anything so if you think doom is coming maybe you should just stay at home and wait (?) Who knows maybe one day you’ll be right
Oh no, the data supports us getting a resurgence of Covid-19 its already starting, you just don't understand that data. Thats evident from you and your friends going to a bar. The naysayers were saying we would have only 20K deaths in the US, then 40K, now with over 1700 added to the toll today, everyone who maths good, knows that 100K by the end of May is basically a forgone conclusion at this point.
 
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Oh no, the data supports us getting a resurgence of Covid-19 its already starting, you just don't understand that data. Thats evident from you and your friends going to a bar. The naysayers were saying we would have only 20K deaths in the US, then 40K, now with over 1700 added to the toll today, everyone who maths good, knows that 100K by the end of May is basically a forgone conclusion at this point.

Can you show me the data that is showing a national uptick? My data is showing me a downward trend
 
Oh no, the data supports us getting a resurgence of Covid-19 its already starting, you just don't understand that data. Thats evident from you and your friends going to a bar. The naysayers were saying we would have only 20K deaths in the US, then 40K, now with over 1700 added to the toll today, everyone who maths good, knows that 100K by the end of May is basically a forgone conclusion at this point.
But those deaths don't matter because the government is telling hospitals to mark non-COVID cases as COVID cases. So actual COVID cases are actually far less, probably negative 80k by now.

/mocking-conspiracy-theory /s (just in case)
 
Can you show me the data that is showing a national uptick? My data is showing me a downward trend
Thing is doesn’t really matter about trends. If my wife or family die because I ‘needed’ to go to a bar then it doesn’t matter if it’s part of a trend or not.
But as I’ve said elsewhere I live in social isolation all the time anyway pretty much.

The facts are the more people you see, places you go, use public transport to get there, the higher your chances are of catching (and passing it on).

Those facts can’t be denied.
 
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Thing is doesn’t really matter about trends. If my wife or family die because I ‘needed’ to go to a bar then it doesn’t matter if it’s part of a trend or not.
But as I’ve said elsewhere I live in social isolation all the time anyway pretty much.

The facts are the more people you see, places you go, use public transport to get there, the higher your chances are of catching (and passing it on).

Those facts can’t be denied.

Well then just say at home (?)

I mean I'm not but people who are scared can
 
Doesn’t make sense to the millions who are going

Earlier in this thread you stated you were not comfortable in grocery stores because they're 'super crowded' yet going to the bars you say are packed doesn't bother you?

Just curious, I really don't care what you do. I just find the contradiction odd (among other things I find odd).
 
I just want to rent a beach house for a week for a change of scenery. I can easily avoid people once I do an initial grocery run when I get there, and then I can happily stay mostly inside and enjoy the view. I'm very much a homebody to start with, so the stay at home order hasn't been super difficult. But I need a new view just for a little while. Give me the stars and skies and sunsets, the sand between my toes and glass of crisp wine. Just for a week. That's all I need.

Unfortunately that may well have to wait another year or two. My state is opening soon for Phase 1 but my region is staying "stay at home" through the end of the month at least as our cases are still rising.
 
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Earlier in this thread you stated you were not comfortable in grocery stores because they're 'super crowded' yet going to the bars you say are packed doesn't bother you?

Just curious, I really don't care what you do. I just find the contradiction odd (among other things I find odd).
Because he has the most amazing social life, so any concerns of a virus disappear when at a bar. He's also very lucky he's on a diet, so doesn't have to go to a supermarket. His words, not mine.
 
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