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WhatsApp Reveals What Happens to Users Who Don't Agree to Upcoming Privacy Policy Changes
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Yeah, Apple should've released an SMS app with support for iMessage for Android. Seems like the time is ripe with the many privacy issues that are being exposed. Heck, Apple can even make some money by charging something inexpensive for the stickers/animated effects. Even 1% of Android users is a huge number.
It wasn’t my post but having read it, it was immediately obvious to me it was sarcastic due to how tongue in cheek hypocritical it was. It was poking fun at those who refuse to use one platform but will happily use others with the same terms and conditions.
When practically most of the businesses and even your government use that platform, you kinda have to. In my country, everybody has, and are expected to have Whatsapp. Whenever I meet someone new, the first question for contact is for a whatsapp number. Even the delivery couriers would contact you via whatsapp, and many e-commerce even use whatsapp for their OTPs.
ALL 100% FREE Ad-based apps will soon go the way of the DoDo Bird, except ...
those that get their Users to "Opt Out" of the iOS 14.5 Privacy Changes.
NO such thing as 100% FREE !
those that get their Users to "Opt Out" of the iOS 14.5 Privacy Changes.
NO such thing as 100% FREE !
That is why I started using it. To connect to family and friends way back when. I live out west and all my family was/is in the southeast. Sometime and not sure when, Facebook morphed into a beast. I avoid it the best I can but there are things I still like and since I was diagnosed with terminal cancer I have found that Facebook has a support group for the type of cancer I have so that is a plus.
I really don't see why people just don't send ordinary text messages using the telephone numbers of their friends.
Because the features of things like WhatsApp, Signal, and Telegram are very useful? Like, inline replies, group chats, delete messages after sending, encryption, sending media using data plan/WiFi, audio messages, text styling.... etc etc.
What I don’t understand is; why doesn’t Apple bring iMessage to android? They want their users to be as private as possible, but not allowing this stuff on other platforms just means you’re going to be having your data sold to the highest bidder anyway. I got rid of Facebook 2 years ago and haven’t looked back, but since the majority of my friends and family either don’t have iPhones or all use WhatsApp, I’m still forced to use it.
I get there are apps like signal, but I’m pretty sure most users would prefer to use iMessage as they trust Apple with their data a lot more than pretty much most companies, me included.
Also, if Facebook are going to sell your data using business chat, it’s only a matter of time before they start doing the same with everything else on the platform, ruining any value WhatsApp has in the first place. Aren’t they also trying to integrate messenger as well? Surely if that happens, your data is as good as public.
I get there are apps like signal, but I’m pretty sure most users would prefer to use iMessage as they trust Apple with their data a lot more than pretty much most companies, me included.
Also, if Facebook are going to sell your data using business chat, it’s only a matter of time before they start doing the same with everything else on the platform, ruining any value WhatsApp has in the first place. Aren’t they also trying to integrate messenger as well? Surely if that happens, your data is as good as public.
The biggest opportunity ever for Apple to release iMessage cross-platform that may not happen again - they would really have some pull here but instead they are focusing their efforts on shunning developers who bought the Mac Mini DTKs.
Come on Apple, capitalize on the time and release iMessage web and Android - forget developing a keychain for Chrome.
Come on Apple, capitalize on the time and release iMessage web and Android - forget developing a keychain for Chrome.
In my experience you don't choose a messaging platform, your friends do. If 100% of the people you know use Messenger, then you will use Messenger whether you like it or not. You can be the only one on some privacy-focused platform that no one else uses but you'll have no one to talk to.
Facebook is what you make of it. If you filter out the content like politics and news aspect of it then it’s still a useful tool for staying in touch with friends and family. I quite enjoy seeing what some of my friends have been up to from afar but wouldn’t ring them up randomly for a conversation. My feed is just what I want to see and I never understand why people don’t customise it. It’s like saying ‘all the people I follow on Twitter post boring content’. It’s very easy to rectify. Then again I’m not interested in convincing anybody I don’t know as it really doesn’t matter.
Exactly why Failbook is preying on said users.
Everyone needs to pack up and give them the middle finger.
Correct. Problem is Facebook has a history of not exactly obeying rules. And they have been caught not just once claiming this while really doing that.
I do not believe one second that they obey that legislation
I only used whatsapp with my extended family in the Netherlands... well over 80 people. They've all recently ditched whatsapp and we're all on Signal now. For my friends in Asia it's only WeChat. And in the US, only iMessage. So glad to no longer be affiliated with anything Facebook....This max exodus away from WhatsApp I am assuming is in the US? I haven’t heard of anybody in my circles discussing this or suggesting not using WhatsApp anymore. I’ve only seen this topic being discussed on Mac Rumours to be fair.
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It can be a blassing in disguise to be honest. I have some really terrible relative and friends that I'd rather not have to deal with. I just told them I don't have so and so app and I won't/refuse to install them. If really want to talk to me talk to me on my own term.
So far, the only chat app that is truly crossplatform (mobile, computer and multiple computer) is Discord. Everything else just kind of has their own issues. Whatsapp is not bad on Mac, but I can only use it on one machine at a time, not sure if it's my own issue.
I have Telegram on multiple computers and OS’s, Discord isn’t the only one that is truly cross platform.
A lot of my colleagues are from Holland but we still use WhatsApp. Same for the guys I text in Sweden too. I have Signal installed but have very few contacts on it yet. I think unless the media help convince people to drop WhatsApp, it’ll be a long while before people migrate over. I haven’t got any issue with WhatsApp personally as I don’t contact companies or make purchases through it.
Wow. Lose friends because of a messaging app
Hopefully their warnings will start the exodus again. There's no point having an alternative unless everyone uses it!
I live in France and within the country and Europe I only use iMessage. The only reason I have Signal & Telegram is to communicate with friends anywhere else because SMS messages are not included in my phone subscription in other countries and are sent as such if the other person is not on WiFi or not reachable when I send a message. I ditched everything touching Facebook and will not look back.
I guess you have to admire Facebook in a way. They figured out a way to make literally everyone a "customer", whether they consent or not, whether they pay or not, whether they actually directly interact with Facebook or not. (shadow profiles and tracking) They don't have to answer to the users of Facebook (and they especially don't have to answer to shadow profiles), because we aren't the actual customers - the customers are the data miners, ad agencies, etc. Even people deleting WhatsApp or even Facebook itself are not safe - more or less, if you continue to use the Internet, you're on their radar.
While I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, Facebook has proven time and time and time and time again that the regular users are not their priority (other than how much money the data collected from those users can make the company). They've shown multiple times that they cannot be trusted. I don't blame anyone for being weary of the change, and their "we swear it's not what you think" approach seems akin to the abusive partner begging for another chance because "I didn't mean it and I won't do it again". And there's enough people out there who want the good times so badly (the services FB and company do offer to end users) that they're willing to overlook the bad times (privacy violation, data collection/harvesting/sale, etc.) no matter how abusive or wrong...
While I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, Facebook has proven time and time and time and time again that the regular users are not their priority (other than how much money the data collected from those users can make the company). They've shown multiple times that they cannot be trusted. I don't blame anyone for being weary of the change, and their "we swear it's not what you think" approach seems akin to the abusive partner begging for another chance because "I didn't mean it and I won't do it again". And there's enough people out there who want the good times so badly (the services FB and company do offer to end users) that they're willing to overlook the bad times (privacy violation, data collection/harvesting/sale, etc.) no matter how abusive or wrong...
I've used it, and it's awful, would rather use nearly anything else. There's no way my family members would use it without feeling confused and frustrated.
Not like it's private or secure either. Signal is more trustworthy and has a nicer UI.
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