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This has nothing to do with iphone/apple and everything to do with management of your digital assets in the cloud.

Absolutely. I favour onboard storage along with sparing use of the Cloud for non-sensitive items.

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Data packages can be dirt cheap outside of the US/Canada.. I regularly use more than 100/150gb a month for just £15 (includes 300 minutes and 3000 texts). And that £15 isn't something I have to pay if I don't want to..there is no contract, agreement or plan...some months I don't bother, but it's still free to receive calls or texts

I could quite happily live with an 8gb iPhone since I barely use half of my 16gb as it is. Who needs/wants local storage anymore when fast streaming is ubiquitous and almost-free?

150GB of data for £15 a month?? I get 4GB (*+ unlimited calls and unlimited SMS) for £48 a month.
 
Absolutely. I favour onboard storage along with sparing use of the Cloud for non-sensitive items.

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150GB of data for £15 a month?? I get 4GB (*+ unlimited calls and unlimited SMS) for £48 a month.

Companies are moving to "the cloud" for sensitive information. Ever hear of companies such as constant contact, salesforce dot com; etc.
 
Absolutely. I favour onboard storage along with sparing use of the Cloud for non-sensitive items.

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150GB of data for £15 a month?? I get 4GB (*+ unlimited calls and unlimited SMS) for £48 a month.

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3 PAYG or One Plan...I know people who use around 500gbs so I've no idea why you're paying what you are.
 
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3 PAYG or One Plan...I know people who use around 500gbs so I've no idea why you're paying what you are.

Yes the 3 all you can eat data plan exists. However maybe it's just where I live and frequent but 3 don't seem to have good coverage. My boyfriend has a contract with three and hasn't been able to use his phone for anything, even voice calls in our apartment. It's only recently that they released their wifi calling app that he's been able to use his phone properly.

So I'd rather pay £25 for 8GB of 4G data from O2 as it's reliable.
 
Then what's the point of ITunes and Beats Music, etc etc.

Apple always wants to upsell. The iPhone is just to upsell you on other things.

The more storage you have the more you can put on the phone.

It is a rip off to pay so much for 16GB when you can't expand the storage.

You're ignoring the tens of thousands of people who left iPhone because they wanted expandable storage.

Not even the cheapest Android expects you to do with 16gb and no micro SD card. Only Apple still does that.

As usual, they're ripping people off.

You're also wrong saying "take a few pics" . That is what everyone wants. Take pictures with their phones. Your average user takes thousands of pictures with the phone.

Dude bottomline is the 16GB base model is Apple's most popular storage size and price. I just don't see them lowering that price. Sorry, I just don't. And yeah as long as many people can get candy crush, get pics on social media, and make phone calls then a lot of them are happy. Not everybody takes 79,000 pictures or needs some game/app that's 12GBs. Hell my Mom has a Galaxy S3. You honestly thinks she cares about anything other making phone calls, texting, playing Candy Crush and taking an occasional picture and putting it on Facebook? Hell, just using the customers that come into my store as a example, a lot of those people don't give a crap about extra storage. They just don't need it and then you also have those who use iCloud. Now with that being said, do I use more storage? Yep. I have a 32GB size phone and it works for me. You have people on here who have 64GBs. That, IMO, is overkill (atleast for me) b/c I'd never use that much storage. Again, that's just me. Everybody is different. Apple lowering the price and making the 32GB model 199.99 would be awesome but I just don't see it happening. Sorry dude
 
There are problems with your solution though.
Firstly, you need a strong LTE/WiFi signal at all times. Secondly, if using LTE, you need an expensive data package. Thirdly, you need to pay for increased Cloud storage space...or use several different providers to take advantage of their freebie allocations. This can be inconvenient. Finally, you run into issues of privacy by uploading your documents/photos/videos/etc to Cloud storage space. You lose control over it and have no idea who has access to it.


Issues of privacy? Are you kidding me? Funny when people have paranoia and think that privacy is keeping your data at home. What if someone steals your computer? A password does not help to prevent someone dragging files out via an external cabinet. I would say that the probability is a million times bigger than someone in a cloud service company is spying on your data and abuse it - you are not that interesting. I am a million times more worried about physical copies. But then again, I am not worried. They can look if they want. Especially security. Would be more worried if they could not see peoples files and track their data.

Pay for it? Are you kidding me? It is much more expensive to

1. Buy a phone with 32 or 64 gb.
2. Buy external harddrives every 2nd year to have a backup of your backup and reduce probability for hard drive failure

than just pay for 1 TB cloud.
 
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Issues of privacy? Are you kidding me? Funny when people have paranoia and think that privacy is keeping your data at home. What if someone steals your computer? A password does not help to prevent someone dragging files out via an external cabinet. I would say that the probability is a million times bigger than someone in a cloud service company is spying on your data and abuse it - you are not that interesting. I am a million times more worried about physical copies. But then again, I am not worried. They can look if they want. Especially security. Would be more worried if they could not see peoples files and track their data.

Frankly you have no idea who has access to your files, and I wasn't saying that was the only issue with Cloud storage. It's at the bottom of my list of possible negatives, and then it's only an issue to some. People who belong to the 'I've got nothing to hide so what's the problem' tribe are those who are kissing goodbye to everyones' freedom ;-)
 
Frankly you have no idea who has access to your files, and I wasn't saying that was the only issue with Cloud storage. It's at the bottom of my list of possible negatives, and then it's only an issue to some.

Your other arguments are even less true. I have data and LTE everywhere. Not expensive. And it is much cheaper to have cloud storage than physical backup with backup of your backup and buy 32 or 64 gb phones. You should by external hard drives very often to reduce the probability for hard drive failure. Then spend a lot of time and worry more about it. So expensive if you want to be safe compared to 1 TB cloud storage.

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Frankly you have no idea who has access to your files, and I wasn't saying that was the only issue with Cloud storage. It's at the bottom of my list of possible negatives, and then it's only an issue to some. People who belong to the 'I've got nothing to hide so what's the problem' tribe are those who are kissing goodbye to everyones' freedom ;-)

You know. Freedom is what we in democracy and state societies give away for state protection/security. Thomas Hobbes wrote about it in 1651 and dont live in the freedom illusion/utopia by 2014 :).
 
Your other arguments are even less true. I have data and LTE everywhere. Not expensive. And it is much cheaper to have cloud storage than physical backup with backup of your backup and buy 32 or 64 gb phones. You should by external hard drives very often to reduce the probability for hard drive failure. Then spend a lot of time and worry more about it. So expensive if you want to be safe compared to 1 TB cloud storage.

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You know. Freedom is what we in democracy gives away for state protection/security. Thomas Hobbes wrote about it in 1651 and dont live in the freedom illusion/utopia by 2014 :).

So documents stored in the Cloud never go missing? I'm a vinyl and CD kinda guy. I like a hard copy ;-)
As for the security thing, lots of we older peeps value our freedom. Ever read 1984?
 
So documents stored in the Cloud never go missing? I'm a vinyl and CD kinda guy. I like a hard copy ;-)
As for the security thing, lots of we older peeps value our freedom. Ever read 1984?

You can only have security when you give away freedom. I am sorry :).
 
Your other arguments are even less true. I have data and LTE everywhere. Not expensive. And it is much cheaper to have cloud storage than physical backup with backup of your backup and buy 32 or 64 gb phones. You should by external hard drives very often to reduce the probability for hard drive failure. Then spend a lot of time and worry more about it. So expensive if you want to be safe compared to 1 TB cloud storage.

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You know. Freedom is what we in democracy and state societies give away for state protection/security. Thomas Hobbes wrote about it in 1651 and dont live in the freedom illusion/utopia by 2014 :).

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
 
The cloud and not trusting the cloud and being hacked and not trusting your government and great statesmen. Did I leave anything off.
That certainly seems quite in line with the title and topic of the thread.
 
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

It is not a little temporary safety, but permanent. And those those who believe that just live in Utopia :).
 
Would you say the same thing if five years from now Apple still had 16 as their base? Would you be whining if at that point you also start to question why they do not up it? At what point? Every one of has a point of time when they will think Apple should up it. It is pretty much rediculous to belittle that guy for him having reached that point at an earlier point in time than you.

Are you consistent in thinking that no one should desire processor upgrades, larger battery capacity, better screens? I mean I suppose that to you this would be them whining as well. Everyone should be content with current models. Forever.

YES! I WOULD!

Why? Because wanting something and whining about someone not giving you something they "should" because of XYZ are COMPLETELY different things...

If Apple didn't have specs that I thought were worth my money, do you know what I would do??? No, not cry about why they "owed" it to me... I'D BUY SOMETHING ELSE!

See what I did there? I exercised something called consumer choice, and instead of blindly throwing money at a company and telling myself they "owe" me something because I do, I would take my money to someone else that had what I wanted.

It's a novel concept:

Don't like something, don't buy it. Like something, buy it. Want something different that doesn't exist? Make it yourself or ****.

But whine about it because it doesn't happen on your timetable? That doesn't even fly in Russia :p
 
The 16gb most definitely will stick around for a while longer... Unless the populous starts adopting lossless music en masse and a huge outcry of "why can I only have two albums on my iPod shuffle!?!" starts happening.
 
To an extent....but it's freefalling in the wrong direction these days. At full speed. Still, another debate for another forum.

What can't you do today that you could 50 years ago? If anything we have MORE freedom today.

"freefalling"??? Look, I'm not too keen on this Barack Hussein guy either, but to say it's "freefalling" is just laughable.

We are just as "free" now as we have ever been. You may not like some of the changes to privacy, but freedom is not a guarantee of privacy in ANY shape or form. In many ways, freedom is an infringement of security and privacy because it would give ME the right to freely come do whatever I want to you (and vice versa).

We are a society of rules and laws. We are not free without those bounds. I shudder to think of what we'd be if we were.

I bet you own a gun. So do I. Several. All it takes is someone with MORE guns to come kill me in a "free" society. Don't kid yourself that you could take care of yourself. You couldn't. You need society. You need rules. You need a lack of "freedom". If not, people like you and I would probably be dead.

Blame is all well and good, just make sure it's deserved.
 
YES! I WOULD!

Why? Because wanting something and whining about someone not giving you something they "should" because of XYZ are COMPLETELY different things...

If Apple didn't have specs that I thought were worth my money, do you know what I would do??? No, not cry about why they "owed" it to me... I'D BUY SOMETHING ELSE!

See what I did there? I exercised something called consumer choice, and instead of blindly throwing money at a company and telling myself they "owe" me something because I do, I would take my money to someone else that had what I wanted.

It's a novel concept:

Don't like something, don't buy it. Like something, buy it. Want something different that doesn't exist? Make it yourself or ****.

But whine about it because it doesn't happen on your timetable?
That doesn't even fly in Russia :p
Online forums are made for that kind of thing. Don't like it, don't participate in or perhaps even read them. ;)
 
YES! I WOULD!

Why? Because wanting something and whining about someone not giving you something they "should" because of XYZ are COMPLETELY different things...

If Apple didn't have specs that I thought were worth my money, do you know what I would do??? No, not cry about why they "owed" it to me... I'D BUY SOMETHING ELSE!

See what I did there? I exercised something called consumer choice, and instead of blindly throwing money at a company and telling myself they "owe" me something because I do, I would take my money to someone else that had what I wanted.

It's a novel concept:

Don't like something, don't buy it. Like something, buy it. Want something different that doesn't exist? Make it yourself or ****.

But whine about it because it doesn't happen on your timetable? That doesn't even fly in Russia :p

The OP asked a pretty straight forward question. "When is Apple going to kill 16GB?". If you don't think this is a fair and legitimate question, fine. Are you seriously saying that asking that question is whining on his/her part? Really? If that question is out of line, you really really are in the wrong website/forum.

Edit: I see from your subsequent posting that I am wasting my time.
 
The 16 GB is for ppl like me who still has 7 GB of storage left even though he is satisfied with his phone..

If they kill the 16 GB, the price would start from 32 GB.. And besides, when the phone is in it's 3rd year, they launch an 8 GB phone( which is more pathetic)

People here are saying more something along the lines where storage would shift up, but prices remain the same I believe... Now, it's 199$ for 16GB, 299$ for 32GB, 399$ for 64GB. People (like me) are wanting it to change to 199$ for 32GB, 299$ for 64GB, 399$ for a supposed 128GB.

Aside from all this, if they don't just shift up the storage options and keep the prices like I mentioned, I wouldn't be too upset if they dropped the 32GB storage option and made it 199$ for 16GB, 299$ for 64GB, 399$ for the supposed 128GB option.

To those who are saying, "16GB sells best, so it's staying the way it is.", I could not disagree more. The only reason it sells best is because it's the cheapest option. If 32GB was the cheapest, and the baseline storage option, it would sell best, if not more than the 16GB because there's a possibility some money strapped people are staying with Android because they need more storage at a lower cost. 32GB may be enough for these people, possibly causing new iPhone customers to arise. Also, flash storage costs have gone down, so Apple really wouldn't be at too much of a loss, if any. Besides, the 4GB and 8GB options were once the best selling options at one point like someone else said, yet they got dropped as that tiny amount of storage eventually became obsolete for most customers.
 
People here are saying more something along the lines where storage would shift up, but prices remain the same I believe... Now, it's 199$ for 16GB, 299$ for 32GB, 399$ for 64GB. People (like me) are wanting it to change to 199$ for 32GB, 299$ for 64GB, 399$ for a supposed 128GB.

Aside from all this, if they don't just shift up the storage options and keep the prices like I mentioned, I wouldn't be too upset if they dropped the 32GB storage option and made it 199$ for 16GB, 299$ for 64GB, 399$ for the supposed 128GB option.

To those who are saying, "16GB sells best, so it's staying the way it is.", I could not disagree more. The only reason it sells best is because it's the cheapest option. If 32GB was the cheapest, and the baseline storage option, it would sell best, if not more than the 16GB because there's a possibility some money strapped people are staying with Android because they need more storage at a lower cost. 32GB may be enough for these people, possibly causing new iPhone customers to arise. Also, flash storage costs have gone down, so Apple really wouldn't be at too much of a loss, if any. Besides, the 4GB and 8GB options were once the best selling options at one point like someone else said, yet they got dropped as that tiny amount of storage eventually became obsolete for most customers.

Well yeah it sells more cause it's the cheapest, but keeping 32GB base would be a huge step for apple
 
They really need to kill 16 gb on both iPhone and iPad.
Flash memory is so cheap its not even funny.
32 gb should be the starting point but its all about the money
 
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