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I went from a 32Gb iPhone 3GS to a 16Gb iPhone 5 for cost reasons.

Biggest mistake. It regularly has nearly 2Gb of "other" data that I've done everything from deleting and re-configuring my email (after deleting all old emails off in a way that wouldn't just download them again) to deleting messages, having barely 1Gb of apps on the phone and only downloading app updates via iTunes instead of via the iPhone.

I'd be happy for them to follow suit with their doubling of RAM on recent Macs to a doubling of storage on iPhones.

They buy enough flash to swallow the cost and still make a fortune in profit, lets have 32, 64 and 128Gb iPhones with just a premium for the bigger model (which they should only offer in 64 and 128Gb versions too).
Back up your phone and restore it, that "other" portion will decrease significantly, I do it every couple months to free up storage
 
I agree. The original iPhone was 8Gb for the entry level model, then it went up to 16Gb (I know there was that pointless 4Gb model about 8 months after the first iPhone came out but I can only imagine how useless that would be with the bloat of iOS over the years).

I see no reason not to take it up to 32Gb now because camera quality/image size has gone up significantly, iOS bloat has increased a great deal and their competition humiliates their capacity offerings whether it be with standard storage or that and a combination of user-choice SD cards.

Flash costs MUCH less than it used to and after 7 years another minor spec bump to the features or screen size won't cut it without making the entry level (and the ludicrous £80 premium per doubling of capacity) far too expensive for what they're worth.

And NO ONE is disputing that. Flash costs less. Whooppity doo!

The point the people that actually have thought the issue through are making (instead of the ones talking about how "nice" it would be and why Apple "should" just because costs have come down and it would make them happy) is that Apple has NO reason to do this. They actually have incentive (the 64GB model for example) NOT to do it, to preserve the people who think 16GB isn't enough buying the $299 32GB model.

If you eliminate 16, you eliminate a segment of buyers for 32. They don't just automatically go "ok, since Apple did that I'll spend the same money I thought was nice of them to give me in the first place on MORE memory than I thought I needed in the first place". Nope. They'd just save the $100 and enjoy the 32GB.

Hmm. Why could people spending $100 less be a problem for a FOR-Profit company???

Riddle me that one BATMAN
 
Don't see that happening for a while, if ever. That's still the most popular storage size and price. At my store, it's almost rare to see anybody ask for anything higher than 16GBs. I mean, it happens but it it's just clear that the 16GB size is the most popular. I mean a lot of people don't care about getting 958mb size apps and games on their phones. Many just want to make calls, iMessage, take a few pics, buy a few songs, download candy crush, and tweet.
 
Don't see that happening for a while, if ever. That's still the most popular storage size and price. At my store, it's almost rare to see anybody ask for anything higher than 16GBs. I mean, it happens but it it's just clear that the 16GB size is the most popular. I mean a lot of people don't care about getting 958mb size apps and games on their phones. Many just want to make calls, iMessage, take a few pics, buy a few songs, download candy crush, and tweet.
Then what's the point of ITunes and Beats Music, etc etc.

Apple always wants to upsell. The iPhone is just to upsell you on other things.

The more storage you have the more you can put on the phone.

It is a rip off to pay so much for 16GB when you can't expand the storage.

You're ignoring the tens of thousands of people who left iPhone because they wanted expandable storage.

Not even the cheapest Android expects you to do with 16gb and no micro SD card. Only Apple still does that.

As usual, they're ripping people off.

You're also wrong saying "take a few pics" . That is what everyone wants. Take pictures with their phones. Your average user takes thousands of pictures with the phone.
 
Don't see that happening for a while, if ever. That's still the most popular storage size and price. At my store, it's almost rare to see anybody ask for anything higher than 16GBs. I mean, it happens but it it's just clear that the 16GB size is the most popular. I mean a lot of people don't care about getting 958mb size apps and games on their phones. Many just want to make calls, iMessage, take a few pics, buy a few songs, download candy crush, and tweet.

You're missing the point.
 
For my use case, there is no point in storing files on the device.

I'd be happy with an 8gb iPhone.
 
And NO ONE is disputing that. Flash costs less. Whooppity doo!

The point the people that actually have thought the issue through are making (instead of the ones talking about how "nice" it would be and why Apple "should" just because costs have come down and it would make them happy) is that Apple has NO reason to do this. They actually have incentive (the 64GB model for example) NOT to do it, to preserve the people who think 16GB isn't enough buying the $299 32GB model.

If you eliminate 16, you eliminate a segment of buyers for 32. They don't just automatically go "ok, since Apple did that I'll spend the same money I thought was nice of them to give me in the first place on MORE memory than I thought I needed in the first place". Nope. They'd just save the $100 and enjoy the 32GB.

Hmm. Why could people spending $100 less be a problem for a FOR-Profit company???

Riddle me that one BATMAN

If someone is in the market for a 32Gb had the option of a 64 or 128Gb model, they'd likely buy one of those. The current 32Gb is for people who lack the budget for the 64Gb model but need more than 16Gb.

So far as cost is concerned, Apple could split the difference between the current 16 and 32Gb models and charge more for the phone in general. A larger screen, twice the standard storage would be an incentive. They could still keep one 16Gb iPhone 5S as the budget phone too.
 
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Well they eliminated the 8GB option from their flagships, no reason why they couldn't eventually do the same with 16GB.

Even casual users will start to run out of space on the device, especially if they are the type to keep their phones for a while, do minimal backups and not invest in extra iCloud storage.
 
If someone is in the market for a 32Gb had the option of a 64 or 128Gb model, they'd likely buy one of those. The current 32Gb is for people who lack the budget for the 64Gb model but need more than 16Gb.

So far as cost is concerned, Apple could split the difference between the current 16 and 32Gb models and charge more for the phone in general. A larger screen, twice the standard storage would be an incentive. They could still keep one 16Gb iPhone 5S as the budget phone too.

I don't think it would be a wise idea for Apple to increase the price on the phone just by including things other manufactures already have without a price increase. The HTC M7 for example had a higher resolution, larger screen with a standard for 32gb storage.

Apples prices may become a focal point if they increased them. Then a lot of people would start comparing price more then they already do and start questioning. Lower res screen, still smaller size screen, no NFC, no stereo speakers, relatively small battery, , no wireless charging, no dual antennas for CDMA carriers or SVDO, half the RAM, etc etc all for MORE money. Probably something Apple doesn't need to do.
 
I don't think it would be a wise idea for Apple to increase the price on the phone just by including things other manufactures already have without a price increase. The HTC M7 for example had a higher resolution, larger screen with a standard for 32gb storage.

Apples prices may become a focal point if they increased them. Then a lot of people would start comparing price more then they already do and start questioning. Lower res screen, still smaller size screen, no NFC, no stereo speakers, relatively small battery, , no wireless charging, no dual antennas for CDMA carriers or SVDO, half the RAM, etc etc all for MORE money. Probably something Apple doesn't need to do.

I don't know about "a lot" of people; clearly some people. Whether some is 3 or 1,000,000 nobody knows.

I know for me; wireless charging, NFC, screen resolution, stereo speakers and the "smallish battery" along with no dual CDMA antennas are features I don't really care about. Those that care about those features will leave the iphone anyway. I don't see the iphone 6 having any of these...but we could be surprised.
 
my OH has an 8gb 5c and its got over 6gb free, I have a 16gb 5 with over 10gb free and a 16gb 5s with over 11gb free ... we don't need more capacity thanks
 
The better thing to do would be to offer the 16gb at $100 and the 32gb at $200 etc. Not everyone needs 32gb. This will not happen. Apple has absolutely zero reason to lower the iPhone price.
 
The better thing to do would be to offer the 16gb at $100 and the 32gb at $200 etc. Not everyone needs 32gb. This will not happen. Apple has absolutely zero reason to lower the iPhone price.

I don't think they're not going to do that, the 5c sells at that price point right now.
 
When is Apple going to kill 16GB?

I don't know about "a lot" of people; clearly some people. Whether some is 3 or 1,000,000 nobody knows.

I know for me; wireless charging, NFC, screen resolution, stereo speakers and the "smallish battery" along with no dual CDMA antennas are features I don't really care about. Those that care about those features will leave the iphone anyway. I don't see the iphone 6 having any of these...but we could be surprised.


SV-DO will fall the wayside once VoLTE becomes common. Not having SV-DO or dual radios for EV-DO and LTE, is an inconvenience only for CDMA 2000 users in mostly the US. SV-DO isn't that common in the US, anyway. Any iPhone back to the 3G can get an NFC case and enjoy benefits of NFC. There are plenty of long existing NFC apps in the App Store. Just something to whine about. If it's that big a deal, I agree those users will leave anyway.
 
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Then what's the point of ITunes and Beats Music, etc etc.

Apple always wants to upsell. The iPhone is just to upsell you on other things.

The more storage you have the more you can put on the phone.

It is a rip off to pay so much for 16GB when you can't expand the storage.

You're ignoring the tens of thousands of people who left iPhone because they wanted expandable storage.

Not even the cheapest Android expects you to do with 16gb and no micro SD card. Only Apple still does that.

As usual, they're ripping people off.

You're also wrong saying "take a few pics" . That is what everyone wants. Take pictures with their phones. Your average user takes thousands of pictures with the phone.
It's not a ripoff if that's all you need (and even less). I mean it might be overpriced, sure, but that's the market pricing essentially. But it's not a rip off in the sense that it's only 16 GB and doesn't have expansion capabilities (as various flagship Android devices seem to not have these days either).
 
It's not a ripoff if that's all you need (and even less). I mean it might be overpriced, sure, but that's the market pricing essentially. But it's not a rip off in the sense that it's only 16 GB and doesn't have expansion capabilities (as various flagship Android devices seem to not have these days either).

The HTC One M8 comes with a micro SD expansion port, as does the Samsung S5, the Samsung Note 3, the Sony Xperia Z3, and the LG G3. Other Android phones which don't have an SD expansion slot, such as the Google Nexus, offer 32GB models *dirt cheap*. So every single top of the line Android flagship either has a Micro SD expansion slot, or 32GB as standard/dirt cheap upgrade.
 
This whole argument is about pricing and not usefulness of storage capacity. The answer is NO. Apple will not drop the price of the iphone by $100 this year.
 
This whole argument is about pricing and not usefulness of storage capacity. The answer is NO. Apple will not drop the price of the iphone by $100 this year.

Nobody is expecting Apple to lower the price of the iPhone and in fact the i6 is expected to cost more. They should, however, reduce the cost of storage upgrades - or - make 32GB the base model.
 
I don't know about "a lot" of people; clearly some people. Whether some is 3 or 1,000,000 nobody knows.

I know for me; wireless charging, NFC, screen resolution, stereo speakers and the "smallish battery" along with no dual CDMA antennas are features I don't really care about. Those that care about those features will leave the iphone anyway. I don't see the iphone 6 having any of these...but we could be surprised.

The point was those things are more expensive for the manufacturer to include in a phone then not. So charging more for a device that has less regardless of whether you'll use them or not would make anyone that has half a brain question overall value. There comes a time when even the biggest Apple fan will start to question what they are getting vs pure profit (what they are paying for and not getting).

This was all based around the idea (albeit fictional) of Apple raising the base price of an iPhone that I was quoting.
 
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