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When the 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina display is going to be released?

bill-p said:
If they already have all of those devices ready, I don't see why not.

Pricing for 13" rMBP is looking more like upward of $1499 at this point... because details are mum. If it was going to be cheaper, people would rave about the price point already.
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Well, I hardly see any rumors on pricing... because Apple doesn't leak prices, and manufacturers probably don't know them... they only have access to the parts.

Anyway, I guess pricing would be north of US$ 1,499, especially because the old generation MBPs will still be sold. Apple will sell these for a premium. Perhaps prices go down after the current MBPs are discontinued. But for now Apple's going to profit from it.
 
What is wrong with you Apple?! Your consumers want a dedicated GPU in a Pro machine! Even for those that don't, make a setting in power management to use intergrated only.

If this this does not have at the very least a Quad 2.1 i7, I will be stunned. Sony did it in a freaking 2.5lb 13" package.

Don't you sell that sizes computer too Apple? If you REALLY wanted to slim it down, why not come out with a Pro dock for video needs/wants. Obviously, you have no intentions on giving us more power, just slimming everything down. I have had about enough of this nonsense.

I pitty the fools that buy a rMBP with only a HD4000. They may not think they need the video performance now, but kiss your resale value goodbye. I guess Apple wants everyone to just upgrade next year.

I own two 15" rMBP's and I would have NEVER kept them if it were not for the dedicated GPU.

Sorry, had to vent, this is rediculous. (If true)
 
skaertus said:
Well, I hardly see any rumors on pricing... because Apple doesn't leak prices, and manufacturers probably don't know them... they only have access to the parts.

Anyway, I guess pricing would be north of US$ 1,499, especially because the old generation MBPs will still be sold. Apple will sell these for a premium. Perhaps prices go down after the current MBPs are discontinued. But for now Apple's going to profit from it.
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Just as the 15 inches; High end MBP13" = base rMBP13 = 1499$
 
Well, announcement is made. The even itself is official, and it doesn't look like they want to center it around iPad Mini.

I'm interested in the iPad Mini nontheless. If they can price it reasonably (around iPod Touch), then I'd grab one up if for nothing but that I can use it to read books.

rMBP is most likely in tote. But I get the feeling it will disappoint some, and leave some in awe. It's the same "love", "hate" relationship with the rMBP. Just easier to swallow. Or is it!? Something tells me Apple won't want to price it at $1499... because that'll cannibalize their classic MBP sales and MBA sales.
 
bill-p said:
Well, announcement is made. The even itself is official, and it doesn't look like they want to center it around iPad Mini.

I'm interested in the iPad Mini nontheless. If they can price it reasonably (around iPod Touch), then I'd grab one up if for nothing but that I can use it to read books.

rMBP is most likely in tote. But I get the feeling it will disappoint some, and leave some in awe. It's the same "love", "hate" relationship with the rMBP. Just easier to swallow. Or is it!? Something tells me Apple won't want to price it at $1499... because that'll cannibalize their classic MBP sales and MBA sales.
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I AM SO EXCITED! And even though I never really saw a use (for myself) in buying an iPad, I may also pick up an iPad mini if it's reasonably priced, because...... just because I can, I supppose.

You're right regarding the price. If people'd ask me, I would price it at 1599 to have some distance between cMBP/MBA and rMBP... But the 15" rMBP is already priced at the same price the bigger 15" cMBP is, so Apple evidently doesn't really care about cannibalization. Or they may even intend it, who knows what they're thinking :)
 
Maven1975 said:
What is wrong with you Apple?! Your consumers want a dedicated GPU in a Pro machine! Even for those that don't, make a setting in power management to use intergrated only.

If this this does not have at the very least a Quad 2.1 i7, I will be stunned. Sony did it in a freaking 2.5lb 13" package.

Don't you sell that sizes computer too Apple? If you REALLY wanted to slim it down, why not come out with a Pro dock for video needs/wants. Obviously, you have no intentions on giving us more power, just slimming everything down. I have had about enough of this nonsense.

I pitty the fools that buy a rMBP with only a HD4000. They may not think they need the video performance now, but kiss your resale value goodbye. I guess Apple wants everyone to just upgrade next year.


I own two 15" rMBP's and I would have NEVER kept them if it were not for the dedicated GPU.

Sorry, had to vent, this is rediculous. (If true)
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x2... Sick of this holding out of dGPU from the 13" crowd. It's a deal breaker. They lost a sale to me just cuz of this.
 
bill-p said:
Well, announcement is made. The even itself is official, and it doesn't look like they want to center it around iPad Mini.

I'm interested in the iPad Mini nontheless. If they can price it reasonably (around iPod Touch), then I'd grab one up if for nothing but that I can use it to read books.

rMBP is most likely in tote. But I get the feeling it will disappoint some, and leave some in awe. It's the same "love", "hate" relationship with the rMBP. Just easier to swallow. Or is it!? Something tells me Apple won't want to price it at $1499... because that'll cannibalize their classic MBP sales and MBA sales.
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If I had to guess, I would price it at US$ 1,599 also. But that will also depend on the size of the SSD drive. If the base rMBP gets a 128 GB SSD, I guess Apple won't make it more expensive than the 256 GB MBA. That's the only chance I see of the 13" rMBP costing less than US$ 1,599. Let's see what Apple will bring, though.
 
Has there been any news on the configuration? CPU, men, ssd size, etc?

I need a "portable" softdev machine.
 
bill-p said:
rMBP is most likely in tote. But I get the feeling it will disappoint some, and leave some in awe. It's the same "love", "hate" relationship with the rMBP. Just easier to swallow. Or is it!? Something tells me Apple won't want to price it at $1499... because that'll cannibalize their classic MBP sales and MBA sales.
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I think that's the point though. They want it to take over the cMBP's sales so they can phase the old design out.

Personally I'm not so sure about the dGPU. I think it would be nice but good battery life would be great too. Besides, the HD4000 is pretty good all the same. I could see them giving it a quad core CPU though.

And if an iPhone and an iPad have no troubles running retina with iGPU, why can't a MacBook?
 
HishamAkhtar said:
I think that's the point though. They want it to take over the cMBP's sales so they can phase the old design out.

Personally I'm not so sure about the dGPU. I think it would be nice but good battery life would be great too. Besides, the HD4000 is pretty good all the same. I could see them giving it a quad core CPU though.

And if an iPhone and an iPad have no troubles running retina with iGPU, why can't a MacBook?
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Exactly. Pricing it at the level as cMBP people will properly buy the retina, but those who needs optical drive and so on, can go for the cMBP. Also 1499$ is the same as the high end Air, which makes perfect sense. Either you'll like the more power and screen on rMBP or the lightness and thickness of an Air. Possibly the rMBP comes with 128gb VS 256gb, just to differ them more
 
HishamAkhtar said:
I think that's the point though. They want it to take over the cMBP's sales so they can phase the old design out.

Personally I'm not so sure about the dGPU. I think it would be nice but good battery life would be great too. Besides, the HD4000 is pretty good all the same. I could see them giving it a quad core CPU though.

And if an iPhone and an iPad have no troubles running retina with iGPU, why can't a MacBook?
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I agree Apple wants the 13" rMBP to take over cMBP sales, but I don't think they want it to cannibalize MBA sales. So with that said, it costs more because of the MBA, not because of the classic MBP. If people have to choose between either a MacBook Air that has an inferior screen, less processing power, less battery life, same thickness, slightly less heavy and a MacBook Pro with Retina Display that has a much better screen, more processing power, more battery life, same thickness, and slightly heavier, which do you think they'd choose?

Also iPhone and iPad run much lower resolutions than the 13" rMBP. Plus they are better optimized. Apple has not always had to deal with scaling interface on uber resolutions, so they are still having troubles scaling on rMBP.

In short, Apple's way of utilizing the Retina Display on MacBooks is different to iPhones and iPads, and it requires a lot more processing horsepower.
 
Lukewarmwinner said:
What other rumors would you like?.. It has been confirmed and all..
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Well, in fact it has been all but confirmed. As far as I know, there are three sources that "confirmed" the launch of the 13" rMPB (9to5Mac, AllThingsD, and a Chinese forum thread):

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/1...pro-to-launch-alongside-ipad-mini-in-october/

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/1...macbook-pro-coming-at-next-weeks-media-event/

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/1...ro-sai-to-carry-unprecedented-battery-design/

It's still just rumors, however. I haven't seen part numbers and there are only some photos which may well could belong to another device.
 
skaertus said:
Well, in fact it has been all but confirmed. As far as I know, there are three sources that "confirmed" the launch of the 13" rMPB (9to5Mac, AllThingsD, and a Chinese forum thread):

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/1...pro-to-launch-alongside-ipad-mini-in-october/

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/1...macbook-pro-coming-at-next-weeks-media-event/

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/1...ro-sai-to-carry-unprecedented-battery-design/

It's still just rumors, however. I haven't seen part numbers and there are only some photos which may well could belong to another device.
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You expect Apple to confirm it?
 
Lukewarmwinner said:
You expect Apple to confirm it?
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Of course not! I was pretty convinced that Apple would release the 13" rMBP after all the unofficial confirmations. But then I also saw that the release of refreshed iPads, iMacs and Mac Minis were expected to Oct 23.

Well, I just don't think Apple will release so many products at once. And the iMac and the Mac Mini are the most in need of a refresh here, since they are still running Sandy Bridge processors. So, the doubt is back again: will Apple really release the 13" MBP on Oct 23?

So far, the only thing that seems to be certain is that the iPad Mini is going to be launched (because of the obvious clue in the word "little" in Apple's invitation).
 
If it is released

can i go to apple that day and buy it

or should I lower my expectations and expect to wait a month
 
I'm really sure it will be released. There have been many rumors, and even a screen leak. The iPad mini and 13 rMBP are the most likely to be introduced the 23rd.

I cannot say "confirmed" though until Apple releases it. However this is as almost as close as we are going to get...
 
katai said:
You'll find out next week.
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That's absolutely true. However, well, that's a little bit of a problem for me. And I'll explain why, if you have some time to read it.

I live in Brazil, not in the US. Due to heavy taxes charged by the government, prices of consumer electronics here are insanely high, much higher than in any other country I know of (Steve Jobs himself called Brazilian taxes "crazy" once). For you to have an idea, the cheapest 15" rMBP costs US$ 5,000 here (the base model; the higher-end model costs US$ 6,300). While most of you are complaining on Apple asking US$ 2,200 for a rMBP, I wish I had the chance to buy it for that price. US$ 5,000 is hard to swallow. And the 13" rMBP will also be very expensive here, and although it is expected to be cheaper than the 15" rMBP, it will probably cost at least US$ 3,500.

The thing is: I'm going to the US next week. I'll leave Brazil on Oct 22 and I'll arrive in the US on Oct 23, the very same day in which Apple will hold the event. I'll stay in the US until Oct 29, when I'll come back to Brazil. If Apple launches the 13" rMBP on Oct 23 and it is immediately available to the public, I will be able to buy it the next day. But, if Apple fails to release the 13" rMBP on Oct 23 or if the product is not available for purchase right away, I, of course, will not be able to buy it.

Now here's the other thing: I'll need a laptop during my stay in the US. I have the option of taking my current 13" white MacBook with me so I can use it. If Apple releases the 13" rMBP, I could buy it, but then, if I get caught at the Brazilian customs bringing two laptops in my luggage, I'll have to pay a very heavy import tax and fine.

I have, of course, the option of not taking my wMB with me. Then if Apple releases 13" rMBP, I will be able to buy it and the Brazilian customs office will not be so severe if it catches me entering the country with only one laptop (as it's for personal use). However, if Apple doesn't release the 13" rMBP, I'll be without a laptop during my stay in the US. I could buy another laptop instead, but I'm not doing it. A regular MPB or a MBP will not do for me, as I just can't stand the low resolution of their displays, especially with the text rendering technology of OS X. Not having a retina display is a deal breaker for me in any Mac purchase.

What would you suggest me to do: to bring my 13" wMB with me to the US, or to leave it home, being confident on the immediate availability of the 13" rMBP on Oct 24? Tricky, isn't it?
 
skaertus said:
Of course not! I was pretty convinced that Apple would release the 13" rMBP after all the unofficial confirmations. But then I also saw that the release of refreshed iPads, iMacs and Mac Minis were expected to Oct 23.

Well, I just don't think Apple will release so many products at once. And the iMac and the Mac Mini are the most in need of a refresh here, since they are still running Sandy Bridge processors. So, the doubt is back again: will Apple really release the 13" MBP on Oct 23?

So far, the only thing that seems to be certain is that the iPad Mini is going to be launched (because of the obvious clue in the word "little" in Apple's invitation).
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Going by historical evidence, Apple tends to release changes onto the 15 inch and then bring it to the 13 (and 17 inch) before. I don't think it would take that long to release this product considering they already spent a lot of time on it at WWDC. The most important questions will be about the GPU and CPU and Apple don't tend to go into much detail with that during presentations anyway.
 
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