When the 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina display is going to be released?

[ssn637]

Confirmation of a rMBP 13" announcement on the 23rd? Now that's news!

Based on the GeekBench leak last month, looks like we'll be looking at dual-core i7 and 8 GB RAM similar to the high-end 13" cMBP. I highly doubt we can expect either quad-core or dedicated graphics, even as an option, especially if there are rumors of thermal dissipation issues. With a CPU benchmark more or less identical to the 13" MBA, I can't help wondering if the rMBP will be a disappointment to those looking for a 13" "pro" form factor.

Haswell will do more for the 13" MBP than the MBA, in terms of TDP reduction, battery life and GPU performance, but waiting another six months (or more) is going to be tough.

 

[skaertus]

Confirmation of a rMBP 13" announcement on the 23rd? Now that's news!

Based on the GeekBench leak last month, looks like we'll be looking at dual-core i7 and 8 GB RAM similar to the high-end 13" cMBP. I highly doubt we can expect either quad-core or dedicated graphics, even as an option, especially if there are rumors of thermal dissipation issues. With a CPU benchmark more or less identical to the 13" MBA, I can't help wondering if the rMBP will be a disappointment to those looking for a 13" "pro" form factor.

If the 13" rMBP follows the same path of the 15" rMPB, then it will have a Core i5 2.5 GHz in the lower-end model and a Core i7 2.9 GHz in the higher-end. This should be consistent with the GeekBench leak. I am also not expecting a quad-core processor here, especially in a smaller form factor.

Haswell will do more for the 13" MBP than the MBA, in terms of TDP reduction, battery life and GPU performance, but waiting another six months (or more) is going to be tough.

I really don't know about that. As far as I am aware of, the low-voltage processors (such as the ones inside the MacBook Air) will have a TDP of only 10W (instead of the current 17W), and the standard-voltage processors (such as the one inside the MacBook Pro) will have a TDP of 37W (instead of the current 35W).

And if the 13" rMBP gets released in October, I doubt that we will see an upgrade before June... about eight months.

 

[ssn637]

If I'm reading this Intel presentation correctly, the MBA TDP will drop from its current 17 to 15 W. Anandtech claims a maximum performance increase on the GPU side of around 30% for the Airs, but double that for the current HD4000 in the Pros.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture/2

 

[skaertus]

If I'm reading this Intel presentation correctly, the MBA TDP will drop from its current 17 to 15 W. Anandtech claims a maximum performance increase on the GPU side of around 30% for the Airs, but double that for the current HD4000 in the Pros.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture/2

Wow... would it be worth waiting for Haswell instead of buying the Ivy Bridge version then?

 

[Liquinn]

Wow... would it be worth waiting for Haswell instead of buying the Ivy Bridge version then?

I'm waiting for broadwell

 

[ssn637]

Well, let's just wait and see what the announcement brings. I'm kind of leaning towards a rMBP 13" and Sonnet Echo Express Thunderbolt chassis along with a Radeon 7750 graphics card for home use. My current 13" MBP doesn't take advantage of thunderbolt, USB 3.0 or a retina display, so even with integrated graphics I'd be looking forward to big improvements overall. For an additional $500 you can add an external graphics card hooked up to your favorite monitor with 2 - 3x the performance of the HD4000 without worrying about overheating (albeit in a Boot Camp environment). I've been seriously considering this option with the current MBA for quite some time, but the 13" rMBP would provide the display we've all been waiting for in the smaller form factor.

 

[Lukewarmwinner]

Wow... would it be worth waiting for Haswell instead of buying the Ivy Bridge version then?

As another humorous poster noted, you could wait forever for the newest technology. The only reason I want to wait till after the 23rd is the screen resolution. The CPU architecture is constantly being modified.

 

[skaertus]

No word on pricing yet... I guess there will be more rumors until Oct 23... If it will actually be released on this date.

 

[skaertus]

Rumors are getting stronger and stronger. And we're still a week ahead of the reported launch date. It appears that the 13-inch retina is real this time.

 

[Lukewarmwinner]

Rumors are getting stronger and stronger. And we're still a week ahead of the reported launch date. It appears that the 13-inch retina is real this time.

Yeah! The only dealbreaker for me is the price. Hopefully they'll price it as the 15", meaning 1499 for the base

 

[skaertus]

Yeah! The only dealbreaker for me is the price. Hopefully they'll price it as the 15", meaning 1499 for the base

Price is a deal breaker for everyone, as everyone has some limit on what he/she is able to or willing to spend on a laptop. There is no word on pricing yet, but it will certainly be higher than the 13-inch Pro models.

I would bet on a pricing strategy such as follows:

If the base model has a 128 GB SSD, and the higher-end model a 256 GB SSD:

US$ 1,399 to US$ 1,499 - base model
US$ 1,699 to US$ 1,799 - higher end model

At this point, however, it seems more likely to me that Apple is going to adopt a 256 SSD drive in both models. So pricing would be as follows, I guess:

US$ 1,599 to US$ 1,799 - base model
US$ 1,799 to US$ 1,999 - higher end model

I don't think Apple would price a 256 GB 13" rMBP at US$ 1,499, since it would compete directly (and favorably) to the 256 GB 13" MBA.

 

[HurryKayne]

Rumors are saying no discrete Gpu.
What justifies compared to an Air?Just the retina?
An integrated Gpu hogged by a super display..?

 

[Lukewarmwinner]

Rumors are saying no discrete Gpu.
What justifies compared to an Air?Just the retina?
An integrated Gpu hogged by a super display..?

Retina, higher CPU, Hdmi and so on.. The same differences as the 15" just with 13" instead

 

[andrezuppe]

i5 + Intel integrated gfx card to drive a retina display??
I'm curious to look at the performances that this kind of machine could reach.... I don't see too much of "pro" on that configuration, also thinking about the high price.....
Consider that it should handle 2 thunderbolt displays plus the retina panel: I think that a quad core cpu is the minimum configuration to do that job if Apple, as rumored in home page, don't put a d-gpu inside this notebook....

Bye,
Andrea

 

[xxcysxx]

Rumors are saying no discrete Gpu.
What justifies compared to an Air?Just the retina?
An integrated Gpu hogged by a super display..?

well, its actually better than an air really. like it will have a higher resolution screen, and it will have better cpu than an air. like the air uses an ultra low voltage cpu where the pro does not. that's a difference in performance, too. though they are all just "a mobile" processors, which is uncomparable to an equivalent desktop processors, which uses "regular" voltage and has better heat dissipation.

and it will also be slightly thicker than an air. which is actually better too, because the center of the laptop is more rigid and has less give and are less likely to sag for those who occationally put too much pressure in the center of the keyboard while typing. the fifteen inch frame structure has a little give in the center because it has a wider feet spacing. but the thirteen inch will be just perfect in the rigidity department.

ever seen a macbook air got bend in a bookbag?
not a dent, but a bend!

 

[AluminumMB]

Got money sitting ere for a 13" rMBP!

how much will it be? I have money for it too (just sold the pc for it) .I am in toronto canada

 

[HurryKayne]

Retina, higher CPU, Hdmi and so on.. The same differences as the 15" just with 13" instead

Not enough for me,Discrete Gpu or Quad core,this will mark the difference.

 

[skaertus]

how much will it be? I have money for it too (just sold the pc for it) .I am in toronto canada

That's the big question!

 

[0x000000]

Rumors are saying no discrete Gpu.
What justifies compared to an Air?Just the retina?
An integrated Gpu hogged by a super display..?

The integrated GPU should easily be able to handle that resolution; it's not really that large after all, current HD4000s can handle that twice, so unless you're a double Thunderbolt-Display user it shouldn't really be that apparent.

Current 15" buyers stand before the same decision: If you have the money to buy the greater 15" cMBP, you can just as well get the 15" rMBP with the more or less same specs and get the retina display for free.

 

[dehory]

If the 13" rMBP follows the same path of the 15" rMPB, then it will have a Core i5 2.5 GHz in the lower-end model and a Core i7 2.9 GHz in the higher-end.

Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but if it follows the 15" rMBP model, won't it simply be a choice of Core i7 processors at 2.3-2.7GHz?

 

[JD92]

Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but if it follows the 15" rMBP model, won't it simply be a choice of Core i7 processors at 2.3-2.7GHz?

I think the poster meant following the current 13" MBP, which is available with either an i5 or i7.

 

[b.tuszkiewicz]

how much will it be? I have money for it too (just sold the pc for it) .I am in toronto canada

Got an envelope full of cash waiting for this thing

 

[katai]

Lol I had a envelope full of cash that I deposited last weekend and was about to get the 13" cmbp. But I got myself to wait for the news next week. Can't wait.

 

[skaertus]

There are rumors that Apple will release the iPad Mini, the 13" rMBP and new iMacs and Mac Minis. Would all these products be released on Oct 23?

 

[bill-p]

There are rumors that Apple will release the iPad Mini, the 13" rMBP and new iMacs and Mac Minis. Would all these products be released on Oct 23?

If they already have all of those devices ready, I don't see why not.

Pricing for 13" rMBP is looking more like upward of $1499 at this point... because details are mum. If it was going to be cheaper, people would rave about the price point already.