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Pro's buy, not rent.
Hmm. I at subscriptions for Adobe, Cinema 4D, Trapcode Particular, 3DsMax. Unity and many more. Final Cut Pro is the only Pro software I don’t pay monthly. And it shows how little money Apple gets from it. I bought it the day it released and not one dollar since. You think my $300 that long ago is still paying those devs their salary?
 
except he approved the App Store.
The point is that he was able to quickly change his mind, so it’s silly to go back 13 years and act as if a claim he made at that time would still necessarily hold up, even in his own opinion, today. He died only a year and change after the original iPad launch.
 
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The biggest deal breaker for me isn't the subscription it is the lack of external SSD support/and not being able to go back and forth with the Mac and iPad. I don't think too many people using FCP or looking to use FCP on the iPad want to record and be forced to have all recordings import into the iPad photos app especially with capabilities today between drone footage, iPhone, camera, action cams, multi-cams, not being able to just have it all import into an external SSD and start the edit then hop over into the Mac for maybe finishing touches or things that maybe the iPad app cannot do yet makes it already below the competition.

I get the maybe the target audience probably isn't actually the "pros" that majority here are thinking of although I am sure there will be some that make it work, but it seems to me at least inital release is basically only for editing footage from the iPad or iPhone.
 
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I don't have a modern ipad, the only effective way with 935 was to use dropbox, I doubt Apple know themselves, icloud is a world of hurt... Numbers and excel just do not play well together, yet excel and google sheets are besties... I hope Apple has a solution...doubtful...
I'm really really curious. They would of course try to push iCloud, but yowsers its unreliable. Super curious about using an iPad then picking up the project on a Mac, if that's even possible.
 
The biggest deal breaker for me isn't the subscription it is the lack of external SSD support/and not being able to go back and forth with the Mac and iPad. I don't think too many people using FCP or looking to use FCP on the iPad want to record and be forced to have all recordings import into the iPad photos app especially with capabilities today between drone footage, iPhone, camera, action cams, multi-cams, not being able to just have it all import into an external SSD and start the edit then hop over into the Mac for maybe finishing touches or things that maybe the iPad app cannot do yet makes it already below the competition.

I get the maybe the target audience probably isn't actually the "pros" that majority here are thinking of although I am sure there will be some that make it work, but it seems to me at least inital release is basically only for editing footage from the iPad or iPhone.
I may sound cynical but this is probably Apple pushing purchases of higher storage iPad air and pro. And the fact that you cannot move to Mac only adds to this. Better get the most expensive M1/M2 iPad you can if you are serious about working with Final Cut...
 
one good thing is that you can take video by iPad camera (and record audio too), then quickly edit on iPad, color it and upload to Youtube from iPad as well.

While I don't think that quality will be up to desktop standards, with better iPhone and iPad cameras (and USB-C mike inputs) the edited video from iPad may have surprisingly high quality.

I can think of some situations when such quick video/editing from iPad may be beneficiary (like a quick video from a concert, event, etc).

Also I swear that some youtubers will try to edit YT video as soon as FCP iPad is released, and an experienced videographer may produce amazing results on iPad.

As for Logic, I can think of times, when writing a quick track on iPad is handy as well, for example, recording an acoustic guitar by iPad mike. You just later add some drums, may add some piano cords, maybe even some vocals, add some bass and voila the base cut is ready within 10 minutes. On the contrary, I never could master Garageband for iPad but for Logic, i think it may be much easier.
 
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What time will FCP be released? 10:00am P.D.T
What time will the complaints start to flood in? 10:01am P.D.T
 
I may sound cynical but this is probably Apple pushing purchases of higher storage iPad air and pro. And the fact that you cannot move to Mac only adds to this. Better get the most expensive M1/M2 iPad you can if you are serious about working with Final Cut...
I don't think you are being cynical at all, that very well could be another factor for sure! Apple did the same with the iPhone and recording in ProRaw and the higher storage iPhones requirements for different recording modes. There is no reason the 64GB one cannot record the larger file format sizes just requires more offload work from the user, but nope. If this is a possible reason, as the group of people who want to video edit on an iPad and pay a subscription is so niche that there will probably be some sales of the higher storage iPads for this reason, but of course we will have to see over time what (if any) changes happen with FCP iPad to speculate how it is going
 
Where do you get 'for free or a one-time nominal fee' from? Pretty much everyone is happy to pay $$$$s to use pro software, and Apple has been doing just fine selling Logic to us for a not-nominal one-time-fee for 21 years now.

People aren't anti-subscription because of the cost - it's often cheaper in the long run. It's the principal of monthly penny pinching, yet another small amount of money leaving your bank account every month, not owning something you want to pay good money for, the potential danger of the app not being available if you're offline for any reason, or if Apple's subscription servers are down, or it being unavailable forever and all your projects being useless if Apple decides to stop supporting it.

What's also mildly insulting about this is that Apple are introducing subscriptions to Logic right when updates to the app are the most stagnant they've been in its entire history.
Maybe this will get Apple to update both?
 
"Apple earns money from the ecosystem and wants to develop Mac ecosystem"
No Apple does not want to develop the Mac eco system, if this was to be true, then 2 things would have to be occurring...
1: Frequent updates of pro applications, it has been years since FCP had a major feature update, 6 months since the last bug fix, there is only a 1 way system, us to Apple, and no feedback from Apple...

2: The devices that are used to run Pro Apps, need to professional in design, that is post purchase upgrade, RAM, SSD, battery etc, so that devices can be used....
We'll see
Case in point FCP for IPAD, for any usefulness you have to invest in the $2000 2TB 12inch ipad, which is the top of the range, any less than that, and parts of the app are useless to you, I assume this was by design by Apple to have you invest in the lest popular ipad...

Apple could afford to charge $200 for the 2TB 12 inch ipad with 16GB of RAM, it would fly off the shelves, a lot of folks have to buy on terms, so make money on the interest, and like restaurants, the sauce and drinks, Apple should be thinking we could make more than 2grand if we sell parts, dongles, hard drives, keyboards, etc...
huh ?
Once you get the ipad, the keyboard, the pencil, you really have a touchscreen mac, only the OS is different, but if it runs on the M chips Silicon, then what is the functional difference between ipad and an macbook air???
Camera for one, Portabilty, second. You don't "need" the keyboard to use FCP or Logic, and certainly not for the way I'd envisage them being used in the field (everyone opinions differ).
$2000 for an ipad is stupid, no way it costs Apple all in, more than about $75, where is the costs of almost $1900? Something just does not make sense... Anyway...
The cheapest 12" ipad pro M1 cost over $500 to produce. Thats excluding R&D, marketing, shipping etc.
 
says the release date is May 24th

23rd 1:00 PM Tuesday, Eastern Time (ET) is
24th 2:00 AM Wednesday, in Tokyo, Japan

So, not before 11 AM Eastern (8 AM Pacific) unless they decide to roll out in those eastward territories early.

Australia’s Apple page also says the 24th.
And, available, right on time at midnight Tokyo, May 24 :)
 
only after Saurik built the FIRST AppStore and proved it was a successful model. Apple stole the idea and tried to lock everyone else out. Gonna change soon though.
lol no.

the concern wasn't whether Apple would make money. you really think steve thought "gee i want third party apps but i'm not sure if it'll be popular so maybe that's not a good idea"? that's hilarious.
 
The point is that he was able to quickly change his mind, so it’s silly to go back 13 years and act as if a claim he made at that time would still necessarily hold up, even in his own opinion, today. He died only a year and change after the original iPad launch.
he never changed his mind about being against sideloading due to security issues.

largely irrelevant anyways. app store and interfacing with a device are two separate things.
 
lol no.

the concern wasn't whether Apple would make money. you really think steve thought "gee i want third party apps but i'm not sure if it'll be popular so maybe that's not a good idea"? that's hilarious.

read what I wrote again. I didn't say anything about $$
 
If companies go the one-time-purchase route, then everyone will whine about forced obsolescence when new features are reserved for paid updates and support is cut for old versions after a few years. Premium software is going to cost you one way or another. Developer's don’t work for charity.
Filmor offers both options for their desktop software. Best of both world! :)🥰
 
"successful model" implies $$$

even if it wasn't about $$$, replace $ with "popularity" and it's the same point.

So you assumed and were wrong.

Apple was second. The only point that is relevant.
 
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Cause of the touch interface, different tools.
IMO try it free for a month.
I just tried it. I find the interface very difficult to navigate. The interface is just too busy for an iPad display. You have to switch to portrait to even see the full height of the mixer. Not to mention it crashed 2 times. I cancelled the renewal and will keep using Logic on Mac.
 
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