Hmm. I at subscriptions for Adobe, Cinema 4D, Trapcode Particular, 3DsMax. Unity and many more. Final Cut Pro is the only Pro software I don’t pay monthly. And it shows how little money Apple gets from it. I bought it the day it released and not one dollar since. You think my $300 that long ago is still paying those devs their salary?Pro's buy, not rent.
The point is that he was able to quickly change his mind, so it’s silly to go back 13 years and act as if a claim he made at that time would still necessarily hold up, even in his own opinion, today. He died only a year and change after the original iPad launch.except he approved the App Store.
I'm really really curious. They would of course try to push iCloud, but yowsers its unreliable. Super curious about using an iPad then picking up the project on a Mac, if that's even possible.I don't have a modern ipad, the only effective way with 935 was to use dropbox, I doubt Apple know themselves, icloud is a world of hurt... Numbers and excel just do not play well together, yet excel and google sheets are besties... I hope Apple has a solution...doubtful...
I may sound cynical but this is probably Apple pushing purchases of higher storage iPad air and pro. And the fact that you cannot move to Mac only adds to this. Better get the most expensive M1/M2 iPad you can if you are serious about working with Final Cut...The biggest deal breaker for me isn't the subscription it is the lack of external SSD support/and not being able to go back and forth with the Mac and iPad. I don't think too many people using FCP or looking to use FCP on the iPad want to record and be forced to have all recordings import into the iPad photos app especially with capabilities today between drone footage, iPhone, camera, action cams, multi-cams, not being able to just have it all import into an external SSD and start the edit then hop over into the Mac for maybe finishing touches or things that maybe the iPad app cannot do yet makes it already below the competition.
I get the maybe the target audience probably isn't actually the "pros" that majority here are thinking of although I am sure there will be some that make it work, but it seems to me at least inital release is basically only for editing footage from the iPad or iPhone.
I don't think you are being cynical at all, that very well could be another factor for sure! Apple did the same with the iPhone and recording in ProRaw and the higher storage iPhones requirements for different recording modes. There is no reason the 64GB one cannot record the larger file format sizes just requires more offload work from the user, but nope. If this is a possible reason, as the group of people who want to video edit on an iPad and pay a subscription is so niche that there will probably be some sales of the higher storage iPads for this reason, but of course we will have to see over time what (if any) changes happen with FCP iPad to speculate how it is goingI may sound cynical but this is probably Apple pushing purchases of higher storage iPad air and pro. And the fact that you cannot move to Mac only adds to this. Better get the most expensive M1/M2 iPad you can if you are serious about working with Final Cut...
Maybe this will get Apple to update both?Where do you get 'for free or a one-time nominal fee' from? Pretty much everyone is happy to pay $$$$s to use pro software, and Apple has been doing just fine selling Logic to us for a not-nominal one-time-fee for 21 years now.
People aren't anti-subscription because of the cost - it's often cheaper in the long run. It's the principal of monthly penny pinching, yet another small amount of money leaving your bank account every month, not owning something you want to pay good money for, the potential danger of the app not being available if you're offline for any reason, or if Apple's subscription servers are down, or it being unavailable forever and all your projects being useless if Apple decides to stop supporting it.
What's also mildly insulting about this is that Apple are introducing subscriptions to Logic right when updates to the app are the most stagnant they've been in its entire history.
Cause of the touch interface, different tools.Why would someone use Logic Pro on an iPad? I just don't get it. And subscribe only?
We'll see"Apple earns money from the ecosystem and wants to develop Mac ecosystem"
No Apple does not want to develop the Mac eco system, if this was to be true, then 2 things would have to be occurring...
1: Frequent updates of pro applications, it has been years since FCP had a major feature update, 6 months since the last bug fix, there is only a 1 way system, us to Apple, and no feedback from Apple...
2: The devices that are used to run Pro Apps, need to professional in design, that is post purchase upgrade, RAM, SSD, battery etc, so that devices can be used....
huh ?Case in point FCP for IPAD, for any usefulness you have to invest in the $2000 2TB 12inch ipad, which is the top of the range, any less than that, and parts of the app are useless to you, I assume this was by design by Apple to have you invest in the lest popular ipad...
Apple could afford to charge $200 for the 2TB 12 inch ipad with 16GB of RAM, it would fly off the shelves, a lot of folks have to buy on terms, so make money on the interest, and like restaurants, the sauce and drinks, Apple should be thinking we could make more than 2grand if we sell parts, dongles, hard drives, keyboards, etc...
Camera for one, Portabilty, second. You don't "need" the keyboard to use FCP or Logic, and certainly not for the way I'd envisage them being used in the field (everyone opinions differ).Once you get the ipad, the keyboard, the pencil, you really have a touchscreen mac, only the OS is different, but if it runs on the M chips Silicon, then what is the functional difference between ipad and an macbook air???
The cheapest 12" ipad pro M1 cost over $500 to produce. Thats excluding R&D, marketing, shipping etc.$2000 for an ipad is stupid, no way it costs Apple all in, more than about $75, where is the costs of almost $1900? Something just does not make sense... Anyway...
What time will the complaints start to flood in? The moment it’s announced. Regardless of what it isWhat time will FCP be released? 10:00am P.D.T
What time will the complaints start to flood in? 10:01am P.D.T
except he approved the App Store.
And, available, right on time at midnight Tokyo, May 24says the release date is May 24th![]()
iPadのためのLogic Pro
iPadのためのLogic Proは、手軽なのに完全プロ仕様のレコーディングスタジオ。作曲からフィニッシュまで、iPad上で完結させるために必要なすべてがそろっています。www.apple.com
23rd 1:00 PM Tuesday, Eastern Time (ET) is
24th 2:00 AM Wednesday, in Tokyo, Japan
So, not before 11 AM Eastern (8 AM Pacific) unless they decide to roll out in those eastward territories early.
Australia’s Apple page also says the 24th.
lol no.only after Saurik built the FIRST AppStore and proved it was a successful model. Apple stole the idea and tried to lock everyone else out. Gonna change soon though.
he never changed his mind about being against sideloading due to security issues.The point is that he was able to quickly change his mind, so it’s silly to go back 13 years and act as if a claim he made at that time would still necessarily hold up, even in his own opinion, today. He died only a year and change after the original iPad launch.
lol no.
the concern wasn't whether Apple would make money. you really think steve thought "gee i want third party apps but i'm not sure if it'll be popular so maybe that's not a good idea"? that's hilarious.
"successful model" implies $$$read what I wrote again. I didn't say anything about $$
Filmor offers both options for their desktop software. Best of both world!If companies go the one-time-purchase route, then everyone will whine about forced obsolescence when new features are reserved for paid updates and support is cut for old versions after a few years. Premium software is going to cost you one way or another. Developer's don’t work for charity.
"successful model" implies $$$
even if it wasn't about $$$, replace $ with "popularity" and it's the same point.
Filmor offers both options for their desktop software. Best of both world!🥰
I just tried it. I find the interface very difficult to navigate. The interface is just too busy for an iPad display. You have to switch to portrait to even see the full height of the mixer. Not to mention it crashed 2 times. I cancelled the renewal and will keep using Logic on Mac.Cause of the touch interface, different tools.
IMO try it free for a month.