Odds are an iMac 27" would cost as little as
- $1799 M2
- $2499 M2 Pro
- $3199 M2 Max
- $5199 M2 Ultra
Saving you ~$1k
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iMac is just gorgeous and Apple needs to update it.
That's exactly what they want. However the combo of a Mini + Studio Display will be far more costly than what a 27" used to be. I'm in the same boat but I'm holding off a bit longer because by buying this combo I feel like I'm sort of confirming their expectations of what customers "want" which is definitely not the case. It would be a compromise, if anything.Still no 27"I'm going to have to order a mini and a monitor at this rate.
I think the importance of iMac is to be seen in slower paced technology workplaces, where people associate aged out iMacs from 2010. The new iMacs look so clean from all angles VS. the standard budget PC that frugal departments still pick with a wired mouse, wired external camera, wired keyboard, and ugly display port cables. As soon as people see these in the workplace, and find that the M1 is super capable, energy efficient, compatible with their AirPods, etc…they get envious, and it can cause an entire computing sea change for an organization. One with much less associated IT costs too.
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Yes. I'm running a temporary display, but this probably settled my decision between Samsung Odyssey 57-inch 8K and Samsung ViewFinity S9.
I'll have to see when they come out.
So as more people work from home I wonder is Apple will place less value on the iMac going forward, or in fact maybe they may pay even more attention to is as people invest in their home IT setup.
Compared to what? Last page I got an M2 pro Plus huge monitor for $1700.
I never liked the white bezel. It's distracting.
The studio display alone costs more then the 27" mac used to be. It's ridiculous and not worth considering.
Replace the ..... with absolutely anything and here you have a sentence that no Apple employee said, ever
Agreed I really dont want all separate components either. I can hold out another year or 3 using Open Core to run the latest version of Mac OS and its working well.
The "M1" series processors are great but for one detail. The single core speed is nearly the same from the base M1 to to M1 Ultra. So most folks are working in the single core mode for boot up and basic chores. Many applications barely use three or four cpus.
So the bait is to get the most memory, one has to get the top cpu on offer.
So the M2 comes out and we see the same pattern for single core performance despite the wonders of the multicore models. There is less than a 20% improvement from M1 to M2 single core speeds. There was a 50% increase in the maximum memory available in each cpu size.
If the M3 does not have a significant single core speed improvement, I will probably wait for M4 before scrapping my over $7,900 Mac Studio Ultra and over $5,500 14" MacBook Pro Max.
The M3 will probably double the M1 maximum memory per cpu model so one could guess the Ultra could be having 256GB of memory.
So the bait is to get the most memory, one has to get the top cpu on offer.
So the M2 comes out and we see the same pattern for single core performance despite the wonders of the multicore models. There is less than a 20% improvement from M1 to M2 single core speeds. There was a 50% increase in the maximum memory available in each cpu size.
If the M3 does not have a significant single core speed improvement, I will probably wait for M4 before scrapping my over $7,900 Mac Studio Ultra and over $5,500 14" MacBook Pro Max.
The M3 will probably double the M1 maximum memory per cpu model so one could guess the Ultra could be having 256GB of memory.
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The picture below sold a lot iMacs. It perfectly illustrated the beauty of the all in one design. Nearly half of my friends switched to Apple because of this picture. I also switched to Apple in 2008 because of the iMac design.
I was hoping against hope to see a large screen iMac announcement. Unfortunately, that day has not come. If the Mac Studio is the new iMac, I have to say I am sad to see the large screen iMac go. That clean all in one design allowed me to fit a powerfulI desktop computer in a tight space. The use of vertical rather than horizontal space freed up room for supporting equipment. It simply is a very good design. I see them almost every day on executive desks.
I suspect that there might be a market for both the Mac Studio and a large screen iMac.
I was hoping against hope to see a large screen iMac announcement. Unfortunately, that day has not come. If the Mac Studio is the new iMac, I have to say I am sad to see the large screen iMac go. That clean all in one design allowed me to fit a powerfulI desktop computer in a tight space. The use of vertical rather than horizontal space freed up room for supporting equipment. It simply is a very good design. I see them almost every day on executive desks.
I suspect that there might be a market for both the Mac Studio and a large screen iMac.
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I bought once a samsung curved display. 4K resolution but compared to the 5k retina iMac it was abysmal so I passed it on.
Waited for a 27' iMac to replace my 7 year old iMac Pro - didn't happen so tis now going to be a studio with (finally) a30' Pro display.
Still no 27"
The "cheapest" version of Mini Studio with 256GB storage and 27" Studio Display costs nearly $2200!
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Companies are not expecting anyone to replace to the next gen.
They expect 4-6 years.
So say you are buying the 2021 iMac M1 odds are you'd be coming from a 2017 or older computer.
If Apple came out with a larger iMac M2 5nm in late 2022 I'd have bought that to replace my decade old late 2022 iMac 27" 22nm. This assumes Mac chips follows the iPhone chip's 12 month refresh cycle.
Then use it until 2032 for a larger iMac M10 0.5nm (A5)
Going from a base M1 8/8 16 GB RAM Max to a M2 Pro 12/19 32 GB RAM Max is a nice bump as far as SoC options. The cheapest M2 pro would be a 10/16. It's only if you look at these base SoC updates (M1 -> M2) that one would question why?
Also a good many of us do not upgrade 4-6 years or sooner.
Some of us keep it for a decade.
So when new display tech becomes available we upgrade to that than keep a decade old display for another decade.
you are right. it is $2.376
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I have nine external drives, a Blu-ray burner, a midi keyboard, and a camcorder connected to my mac. If I'd bought the Dell, I'd have saved money and gotten better performance with internal drives. And I'd have had fewer cables then the iMac. In that context, the extra two cables for the monitor are trivial.
BTW, everyone needs external drives. How else are you backing up your files? To your 50GB iCloud?
Thank you for others for doing the math.
This is why I prefer the AIO.
So what if I can reuse a display, etc etc? I can save ~$1k at time of purchase.
When I sell/hand me down/donate a decade old iMac I get to save another ~$1k by not going separates.
E-waste obsessed geeks are unaware that they can sell it to a collector or someone who can't spend more than $200 on a computer. Those who can't afford tend not to give a hoot on security holes. So it isn't your problem.
If it is a hand me down then they're also unlikely to give a hoot on security holes as they got themselves a free computer.
If you sell it to a junk yard it becomes recyclable from the metals that has more value than the computer.
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Crossing my fingers that all M3 variants will come with a base 16GB of RAM (and maybe even 512GB SSD). It feels like the right time. I know 8GB is still usable, but Apple has gotten a lot of negative coverage around their RAM/SSD upgrade prices in combination with fact that they switched from two to one SSD modules, which made base model M2 slower than base model M1 in read/write tasks and heavy RAM tasks (due to swap file slowdown).
I know COVID supply chain issues prompted most companies to move upmarket even more aggressively than they were before, and so these choices make sense from a standpoint of reducing the comparative value proposition of base models. Hopefully as the supply chain and inflation continue to stabilize, Apple will return downmarket efforts to pre-COVID levels with more compelling base models across their lineups.
I know COVID supply chain issues prompted most companies to move upmarket even more aggressively than they were before, and so these choices make sense from a standpoint of reducing the comparative value proposition of base models. Hopefully as the supply chain and inflation continue to stabilize, Apple will return downmarket efforts to pre-COVID levels with more compelling base models across their lineups.
1 meter. It's probably overkill. But this monitor has no mic, webcam, speakers...
The ViewFinity S9 will have all of those.
Not an Apple display. I can hook a Mac mini M2 to a B&W TV from half a century ago to make an asinine point.