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I thought the SoIC technology was only aimed at M4 Pro and M4 Max? Any TSMC employee can confirm if the M5 will use SoIC as well? You can use a pseudonym, thank you.
 
The Macs only just got upgraded to the M4. The iPad Pro has had the m4 for almost a year now, so it will get the M5 first then the macs will follow.
 
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Personally I'm waiting for the M7 MacBook Pro so I can finally go running with my Mac.

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And back in the Intel days, everyone here complained that there aren’t enough updates.
Fast forward, Apple updates chips every year and people here complain.
There's updates that provide significant and useful utility, and there's "updates" that are barely incremental but provide a shameless excuse to drive unnecessary upgrades, just by lure of the "new".
 
I wonder if they'll mess up with the core counts again like with M3, or they've finally settled to something sensible with M4, and stopped cutting back on certain specs like they did with M2 and M3.
 
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They’re called rumours, not factual updates.
I'm fine with that if they act like it, but we've been told to buy products that then get replaced in weeks, or told to hold because there is a planned upgrade that then doesn't happen for a year.
 
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Honestly, who cares they just released the M4s which are highly competent machines. Let’s move onto something new and relevant.
What about a new chip generation that improves upon the last one—however incrementally—wouldn’t be “new and relevant”?
There's updates that provide significant and useful utility, and there's "updates" that are barely incremental but provide a shameless excuse to drive unnecessary upgrades, just by lure of the "new".
Anyone’s personal calculus for “significant and useful” and “unnecessary” isn’t everyone’s.

What’s truly “unnecessary” is focusing on how other people spend their own money and trying to make a universal, absolute value judgement.

If someone feels a product isn’t worth it to them? Congrats, they don’t have to buy it.

No need to them to try to justify their own choices/value matrix otherwise, unless the only goal is a smug sense of superiority—that is “shameless”.
 
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I don't know, but it will be built from the ground up for Apple Intelligence. With features that are light years ahead of anything that has come before. Features that won't actually arrive until M7. M5 Pro will be the most pro chip we've ever made. You're going to love it.
Tim Cook here, would you be interested in working for Apple Marketing? Check your inbox for a generous offer. Thank you!
 
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I'm fine with that if they act like it, but we've been told to buy products that then get replaced in weeks, or told to hold because there is a planned upgrade that then doesn't happen for a year.
Then don’t rely on what they tell you, but use your own judgement.

There are always updates and upgrades coming down the line. No way you can afford to stay ahead of it. So if you need something then get it and don’t worry about whats coming next.

Since M1 these devices are now so good it doesn’t really matter which one you have unless you care about bragging rights. An M1 would have satisfied my needs, but I was able to wait because I wasn’t desperate for a new machine. Now I have an M3 which I got some months before M4 was released (which I knew was coming eventually). I don’t feel cheated because my M3 is more than sufficient for my needs. M4 or M5 wouldn’t really do much more for what I’m doing.

I bought an iPhone 14 shortly before the 15 was released because the upgrades of the 15 were incremental and didn’t justify paying more for what I needed from a phone. I’m still using Lightning instead of USB-C—Horrors! I should be ashamed and embarrassed! 😆

If you’re always chasing the next thing you’ll never catch it.
 
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