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when will ML come preinstalled on MBP's?

Called Apple once more...

Another rep told me it took approximately 3-4 weeks for computers to begin shipping with Lion last year.
 
daleski75 said:
what difference does it make if you get a redemption code to upgrade or if it comes bundled with it?

You can do a clean install anyway.
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IIRC, SSD's can only be written to so many times. Writing Lion, wiping, and rewriting with ML may degrade the life/performance of the SSD to some degree.

But I am not an expert. please correct me if I am wrong. I am also waiting for preinstalled ML.
 
Laai said:
What is the point in waiting for preinstalled ML?
Instead of getting a rMBP now and spending 15 minutes on installing the new OS, people are willing to wait few days in order "not to waste time on installing the new system". I do not understand the logic...
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No logic guy, just an OCD Apple geek thing. When I spend that kinda money, I want to dictate things like that. So if a person is willing to wait a week Vs. just getting the update, let em. It’s their money, let em do what they want ya know. Logic plays no part in this rational.
 
NovemberWhiskey said:
IIRC, SSD's can only be written to so many times. Writing Lion, wiping, and rewriting with ML may degrade the life/performance of the SSD to some degree.

But I am not an expert. please correct me if I am wrong. I am also waiting for preinstalled ML.
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SSD's actually have a longer life expectancy than a standard HD so worrying about wiping/writing once is ridiculous
 
The last Apple rep I spoke with said that ALL BTO computers will ship with Mountain L

ME: "Are you aware if I purchase a built-to-order macbook pro with retina display will it ship with Mountain Lion?"

APPLE REP: "Yes, absolutely!"

ME: "Will I need to upgrade from Lion?"

APPLE REP: "No. A built to oder Mac will come with Mac OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)"
 
NovemberWhiskey said:
IIRC, SSD's can only be written to so many times. Writing Lion, wiping, and rewriting with ML may degrade the life/performance of the SSD to some degree.

But I am not an expert. please correct me if I am wrong. I am also waiting for preinstalled ML.
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Trim and garbage collection should help keep the SSD performing to its best throughout it's life 😉
 
NovemberWhiskey said:
IIRC, SSD's can only be written to so many times. Writing Lion, wiping, and rewriting with ML may degrade the life/performance of the SSD to some degree.

But I am not an expert. please correct me if I am wrong. I am also waiting for preinstalled ML.
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SSDs are far more durable than people realize. SSDs constantly rotate the space they actually use, and take like 10,000 write cycles before they have even a 50% chance of becoming unwritable.

For all intents and purposes, it really won't matter for an EXCEEDINGLY long time.

PCWebbJR said:
ME: "Are you aware if I purchase a built-to-order macbook pro with retina display will it ship with Mountain Lion?"

APPLE REP: "Yes, absolutely!"

ME: "Will I need to upgrade from Lion?"

APPLE REP: "No. A built to oder Mac will come with Mac OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)"
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Don't let me shatter your hopes, but Apple's track record of knowledgable non-repair representatives isn't exactly the greatest.

EDIT: And for what it matters, this is a big deal for me. I want to break my MBP out of its sealed box, and start plugging away at Lion hassle-free.
 
I'll probably wait a few days before I order a BTO 15". When you add it to the shopping cart it says software that is still preinstalled with OS X Lion.

I just don't want to go through all the hassle of waiting for a code and upgrading. My internet is very slow so it would take a long time to download and If I decide to sell the computer, I could only sell it with Lion.
 
When you add a rMBP to your cart in the Apple Store it now shows that it's shipping with "OS X Mountain Lion" instead of "OS X Lion"! Must have changed in the last hour or two.
 
jw138 said:
When you add a rMBP to your cart in the Apple Store it now shows that it's shipping with "OS X Mountain Lion" instead of "OS X Lion"! Must have changed in the last hour or two.
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Don't be play'n around guy!

If you are right ill be 😀

Update: Hells Yeahs!! You are right, great news!
 
Having just received a promotional email from apple, I went straight to the online store and found it is now shipping with mountain lion too!

I'll place my order after work tomorrow. Exciting 🙂
 
I'm not a MBP guy, but I'm about to buy a MBA. I'm OCD :apple: like the rest of you and I desperately want to know if, or when, these BTO macs will come with Mountain Lion preinstalled. My credit card has been waiting for 7 years. I'm on a freakin' Powerbook right now.

Well I just chatted with an Apple.com store rep, here is what he said:

Right, there wouldn't be a set date exactly to say when the inventory shifts to Mountain Lion. As of right now, we're told that the Macs will be shipping with Mountain Lion.
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I'm still skeptical...Can someone who has a definitive answer PLEASE give us an update when they receive their order?? Thanks!!!
 
Its not that big of a deal for me. Being a reformed PC user (this will be my first mac) I am use to getting a PC and then having to an update and do a bunch of tweaks before I start using it.

I wanted ML pre installed so I could do what the commercial says

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2YNqr-V-xM

Thats the only reason. I am just tired of the
Turn on the PC, check for updates, uninstall the darn 30 day trial software, uninstall the crapware, Install a better browser, install Anti Virus, Install Anti-malwre etc

There will be some configuring sure, I just wanted to minimize it for my first Mac
🙂
 
livebackwards said:
Thats the only reason. I am just tired of the
Turn on the PC, check for updates, uninstall the darn 30 day trial software, uninstall the crapware, Install a better browser, install Anti Virus, Install Anti-malwre etc
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Well, there's no crapware installed (well, I suppose you could call the game center "crapware" 😛), but there is still a lot of configuring and installing: a better browser 😀, dropbox, evernote, gfxCardStatus, 1password, etc., etc..
 
TLewis said:
Well, there's no crapware installed (well, I suppose you could call the game center "crapware" 😛), but there is still a lot of configuring and installing: a better browser 😀, dropbox, evernote, gfxCardStatus, 1password, etc., etc..
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yeah but that is the fun stuff at least. 🙂

Thats not the "reboot 12 times to get all the security updates"
or wait 20-40 minutes for the few gigabyte OS update

and all my programs I have stored on my server so there will be very little download time for those.
 
TLewis said:
😕 I thought you said this is your first mac. Have you been pre-downloading mac software?
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I have been planing on getting a Mac for the past 6-7 months and have been getting all the programs ready since then. My wife also has a Macbook (2009) and through her I have gotten a few more of the programs. I wasn't sure if I was getting a MBP or a MBA, so I made sure the bulk of my Programs were non CD/DVD based. I am only missing 1 or 2 so I will be Running Windows through Parallels 🙄 until I can 100% make the brake (but I will keep Parallels in case there is a windows only program I want to play with)

I like to be Prepared, but I am really excited for the switch
 
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