WHERE ARE ALL THE YOUTUBE REVIEWS OF THE M2 AIR!!!

[fisherking]

Just pray to god that it's nothing like the M2 MacBook Pro. I don't know why but I just get a feeling that the M2 might have been rushed before it was ready.

no need to pray, we'll have real reviews, benchmarks, and forum user observations soon enough. but i am going to base my decisions about buying the new air on your 'feeling' that the new air was 'rushed', because that is how corporations like apple think; 'let's put this out, even tho it's not ready. we can't worry about the feelings of one person on the macrumors forums"

 

[russell_314]

Yup.

I ordered an M1 MBA 15 minutes after watching the M2 announcement. The 500EUR price difference was hugely off-putting.

Buy what suits your needs and wants. The outdated design and no MagSafe of the M1 Air was off-putting for me but some people might like it. That’s why they’re selling different models

 

[russell_314]

This is an interesting video. He’s not an Apple shill either

 

[ouruniverse06131986]

today is pre-order day 1. no one has the M2 air yet. nothing 'fishy' about it; youtubers can't review something they don't yet have (not that that has stopped some lol)...

Wrong. There’s some YouTuber that has the prerelease thing a few days ago.
I seen the videos.

I’m not talking about the MacBook Air cause I don’t care about it.

I just type it in and there’s already tons of videos

 

[ZipZap]

The most important issue that many people might care about this time is whether Apple is giving us a slower SSD this round. I'd imagine even biased reviewers cannot outright lie about the numbers. So it would be useful to hear from those who have early access if they would test the SSD.

iJustine, of course, would love these MBA.

That is one specific configuration and while I am not trying to minimize the issue, its also important to be specific and not make broad statements. Don't by 256GB or wait for the next model where I am sure they will have learned their lesson.

 

[aevan]

This is an interesting video. He’s not an Apple shill either

Great video.

Not sure how it will be accepted here where, apparently, you need 64Gb RAM to email - but I agree with everything he said and he presented it in a great way.

 

[applesith]

This is an interesting video. He’s not an Apple shill either

I like this video. He makes many points I think are common sense, but does so without an agenda or trying to put down a group of users or put others on a pedestal. There's so many comments online of people being so prescriptive of who should use x or y specs. In reality there are many different use cases. And like he said, some have a higher budget and should go for the next level up for peace of mind.

I use my Macs primarily for MS office and browser-based tools and 8GB is not enough for me. I need 16GB at a minimum despite not using typically heavy duty apps. The issue is MS drinks the RAM like crazy when you have the full suite open and connected to a 4K external with scaled resolution.

 

[m1maverick]

Why would a cheaper MacBook Air uses more expensive components than the more expensive MacBook Pro? It will be the same, single NAND on 256GB model.

The difference between the M1 and M2 MBP SSD performance appears to be the configuration of the SSDs themselves. The M1 MBP uses 2 x 128GB SSDs to achieve 256GB whereas the M2 MBP appears to use 1 x 256GB to achieve the same capacity. Typically higher capacity modules (either SSD or DRAM) tend to be higher cost than the equivalent capacity composed of lower capacity modules. Ironically the speed gains from using multiple lower capacity (and therefore lower cost) modules tends to result in better performance.

If the M2 MBA continues to use 2 x 128GB SSD modules it will, most likely, outperform the more expensive 1 x 256GB module in the M2 MBP.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

There’s no need to wait for reviews or worry about anything. It’s a new Apple Silicon Air. Performance upgrades over M1 Air will be predictable and great.

Well, as long as you get 512GB SSD configuration or better.

You’d only have to wait and worry if you’re pre-ordering a 256GB SSD configuration. Those might be sus.

 

[Tagbert]

the MacBook Air is going to overheat. BAD. It has no fan

The M2 MacBook Pro overheats and it has a fan.

So what does that tell you?

By some kinda special magic the MBA with an M2 and No fan will not overheat and throttle??

One reason might be that that 13” MacBook Faux has a case design from 2016 whereas the M2 MBA was newly designed for this chip.

In any case, while that video shows throttling, the end results was still 10% faster than the M1 version so how bad was that throttling really?

I wonder how hard it will be to actually get these devices into that state, it seems like Maxtech had to throw everything that that little MBP to get it to throttle . When The Everyday Dad did his tests, he was doing some major processing and still could not get it to overheat. Extreme benchmarks are not necessarily the same as real world work.

 

[richinaus]

In my opinion, the best review is done by the average consumer who buys the product, uses it for 2 weeks under normal day to day usage and then make an educated decision whether or not said machine meets the need. I don't see how Rene would be able to add anything of real merit past what someone else not on YouTube can do on his or her own.

Maybe I am the exception around here but, I don't need to base my buying decision on Rene or any other YouTube personality or tech site.

The best thing about Apple is their return policy, so I use it to make my own mind up for my needs, and not be influenced by others.

 

[m1maverick]

One reason might be that that 13” MacBook Faux has a case design from 2016 whereas the M2 MBA was newly designed for this chip.

In any case, while that video shows throttling, the end results was still 10% faster than the M1 version so how bad was that throttling really?

I wonder how hard it will be to actually get these devices into that state, it seems like Maxtech had to throw everything that that little MBP to get it to throttle . When The Everyday Dad did his tests, he was doing some major processing and still could not get it to overheat. Extreme benchmarks are not necessarily the same as real world work.

You mean he attempted to use it to its full capability? How foolish of him! Seriously, I don't believe it's unreasonable to expect a system to operate at full capacity for sustained periods under 100% load.

 

[Dealmans]

Well, as long as you get 512GB SSD configuration or better.

If you do that better off going to a 14" pro

 

[NotApplicable]

You mean he attempted to use it to its full capability? How foolish of him! Seriously, I don't believe it's unreasonable to expect a system to operate at full capacity for sustained periods under 100% load.

Any device can accomplish the above indefinitely at the correct ambient temperature

No passively cooled device (iPad, iPhone, air, Galaxy devices, other fanless ultrabooks) can accomplish the above indefinitely at all ambient temperatures; if you expect otherwise you do have an unreasonable expectation

 

[Dnzilla]

Any device can accomplish the above indefinitely at the correct ambient temperature

No passively cooled device (iPad, iPhone, air, Galaxy devices, other fanless ultrabooks) can accomplish the above indefinitely at all ambient temperatures; if you expect otherwise you do have an unreasonable expectation

Isnt this all a bit like driving your car at 6k rpm for 5 minutes and saying the engine doesn’t seem to be very good? 🤣

 

[fisherking]

i have promised myself that i will not export my 4-hour 8K film on my new M2 air.... unless it's a really-cold day, and the heat isn't working...

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

The M2 MacBook Pro is a higher tier and more expensive model, and it uses single NAND for the base 256GB model. Why would Apple do otherwise for a cheaper MacBook Air model?

It's the most likely option that the M2 Air 256GB configuration will be equally slow considering how Apple prioritises efficiency and cost saving in manufacturing.

But looking at how the M2 Air got overhauled throughout and has many features that trump those of the M2 13" Pro, I can't help but feel that Apple aggressively wants us to get the Air.

Like, besides the one cooling fan and a little extra battery life, every other spec or feature is equal or superior on the M2 Air.

The M2 13" Pro is more like a "MacBook Pro SE" than a true Pro.

 

[m1maverick]

Any device can accomplish the above indefinitely at the correct ambient temperature

No passively cooled device (iPad, iPhone, air, Galaxy devices, other fanless ultrabooks) can accomplish the above indefinitely at all ambient temperatures; if you expect otherwise you do have an unreasonable expectation

Where did I say ALL ambient temperatures?

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

If you do that better off going to a 14" pro

Sure. But that's $500 more than the 512/8 M2 Air.

However, there's, as always, no real winning with Apple considering that the 512/16 M2 Air is $1699 and then just $300 short of the much better 14" MBP.

256/8 M2 Air or 512/16 14" Pro are the best options considering price and specs. Especially if the 256 SSDs on the M2 Airs are full speed like the M1 Air. Fingers crossed.

I don't know who should get the M2 13" Pro. It's in no way the option between M2 Air and 14" M1 Pro. All it does better is the one cooling fan and a tiny bit more battery life.

 

[Tyler O'Bannon]

Being filmed, edited, and uploaded since a few days ago.

 

[Dealmans]

Sure. But that's $500 more than the 512/8 M2 Air.

However, there's, as always, no real winning with Apple considering that the 512/16 M2 Air is $1699 and then just $300 short of the much better 14" MBP.

256/8 M2 Air or 512/16 14" Pro are the best options considering price and specs. Especially if the 256 SSDs on the M2 Airs are full speed like the M1 Air. Fingers crossed.

I don't know who should get the M2 13" Pro. It's in no way the option between M2 Air and 14" M1 Pro. All it does better is the one cooling fan and a tiny bit more battery life.

Yeah the base air 2 is probably the only one worth buying, there are 10-20% sales on the 14" here, so soon as you bump up the air makes it same price as 14"

that's what I have ordered, had a 512gb too but cancelled it, can get a 14" 16/1TB for $500AUD more, not spending that much on a air

 

[appleguy123]

Didn’t the mkbhd video say the embargo lifts next Thursday (day before release). I think it also implies he just got the laptop yesterday.

 

[Maven1975]

If they can deliver a PWM free MBA, I will deck it out from top to bottom.

I have been completely isolated/boxed out of the ecosystem due to this issue.

Pleeeeaaassseee Apple!!!

 

[EnigmaticZee]

The best thing about Apple is their return policy, so I use it to make my own mind up for my needs, and not be influenced by others.

Fact is you will be influenced in making that decision even if you test it on your own. If you do watch the reviews, your using experience in itself will be influenced. Now, if you are going in blind then that's a different story

 

[Tagbert]

It's the most likely option that the M2 Air 256GB configuration will be equally slow considering how Apple prioritises efficiency and cost saving in manufacturing.

But looking at how the M2 Air got overhauled throughout and has many features that trump those of the M2 13" Pro, I can't help but feel that Apple aggressively wants us to get the Air.

Like, besides the one cooling fan and a little extra battery life, every other spec or feature is equal or superior on the M2 Air.

The M2 13" Pro is more like a "MacBook Pro SE" than a true Pro.

I’ve been using the term “MacBook Faux” for that model. It is not terrible and it does have a market but it really doesn’t rise to the level of something that you would call “Pro”.