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Where did Rominator go?!!?

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Yes technically behind the scenes it's a ban, but a temporary ban. However in the context of this forum a time-out means a temporary ban and a ban means a ban. To say that a time-out is a ban is false and an attempt to make it into more than it is.
 
jessica. said:
No, deleted would entail a complete wipe of his posts, no? And I ask really because I would believe a deletion of an account would wipe posts. Since you're clearly a contributing expert I am again asking. I reiterate that I am asking as it appears people don't really seem to understand the difference between asking and combatting. :cool:
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advres said:
OK... I guess Jessica runs her own forum and knows everything.
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Hey there champ, look at my quote. :rolleyes: If I knew everything then why would I ask? Reading comprehension FTW. Best put me on ignore if what I write goes straight over your head.
advres said:
Good, glad to know I'm right directly from a mods mouth. Case closed, I'm done.
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bartelby said:
Do you feel better now?
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Sure the hell hope so bartelby!
 
jessica. said:
Hey there champ, look at my quote. :rolleyes: If I knew everything then why would I ask? Reading comprehension FTW. Best put me on ignore if what I write goes straight over your head.
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Talk about reading comprehension. You are quoting a question you proposed to someone else!!! You never asked me a question. Go back through your own posts and see every time you quoted me and responded you said I was wrong. You never once asked me a question. I was responding to your last post specifically saying I was wrong in my terminology of banning.
 
advres said:
Talk about reading comprehension. You are quoting a question you proposed to someone else!!! You never asked me a question. Go back through your own posts and see every time you quoted me and responded you said I was wrong. You never once asked me a question. I was responding to your last post specifically saying I was wrong in my terminology of banning.
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Oh jesus.
I quoted a question I proposed to someone else, in doing so there is no implication of me knowing everything. Rather, it means I did not know the answer thus resulting in the question. If you firmly believe that a person must actually pose a question directly to you in order for you to agree that they do not know everything or think they know everything then you're going to have a really rough time in the real world. I did not pose the question or any question to you because there is clearly no reasoning with you. You want your way and you'll be dammed if you have a logical and civil conversation. I get that and I'm not alone in this thought. Again, if you were ever really banned from MacRumors then you and I would not be going back and forth like this in this thread. ;) Think about it.

What I said to you was that you were wrong in terms of the site's definition of ban and time out. Restated, MacRumors (herein "the site") has separated the terms time out and ban by making a time out temporary and a ban permanent. While forum software may see a time out and a ban as the same, the site has opted to make one temporary and one permanent. When it comes to this site you are wrong. A time out is not permanent. There's no other way to really put this and my post clearly states (at some point) that "this site" has defined the two as temporary versus permanent.

You are still wrong in your terminology of banning when it comes to MacRumors.com. Once more, MacRumors.com gives a time out to people who violate the site's rules. A time out is temporary. When you are banned you are gone forever. If you have a child that you put in time out are they always in time out? I don't think so.
 
300D said:
False. closed=deleted.
I know how vBulletin works, I run several forums myself.
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300D said:
It doesn't. The account information is gone, the header information is still present to preserve post continuity.
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Incorrect. MacRumors members who have requested that their accounts be closed are given the "Guest" user title, and they can have their accounts reactivated by us at the flip of a switch should they reconsider their decision. No information has been deleted.
 
advres said:
Talk about reading comprehension. You are quoting a question you proposed to someone else!!! You never asked me a question. Go back through your own posts and see every time you quoted me and responded you said I was wrong. You never once asked me a question. I was responding to your last post specifically saying I was wrong in my terminology of banning.
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That's one of the unfortunate symptoms of coming down from a moderator-complex/sugarcoating rush, combined with a natural penchant for having the last word. It's pointless to lower yourself. And no need to even call anyone an idiot with such thought provoking posts continuously following up.

Personally, if I tried to log into my account and was told to find another forum that better suited my style, I would see that as a ban, esp. after putting so much free time & energy into helping other members. So the mods "welcomed" him back afterwards... :rolleyes:
 
Ah the thread's now been moved to the (basically) wasteland due to all this off topic talk about the difference between a time out and a temporary ban.

I can understand why the Rominator could have got irritated enough to call someone an idiot - the posts he (and netkas and Cindori) had to put up with from people demanding rom modifications, fixes to their problems etc as if they'd paid him would have got anyone's goat up.

As for what Rom said, he mentioned logging in to find a message saying he should go find a site more closer to his style since he wasn't a good match here. My impression is that that is what annoyed him so much. A temporary ban for calling someone an idiot who had apparently already sworn at him would be annoying but not the end of the world (I myself once got a temporary for letting loose at another member who was attacking a fellow Demi, I accepted I should have just let it go instead of breaking the rules) but if what he's said is true (and I have no reason to disbelieve him) then being effectively told to leave the site would get someone's goat up enough to leave.

The mods here on the whole do a fantastic job but occasionally a hasty judgement from a mod on a bad day can easily happen. I'm not saying that's what happens here but just as your odd poster can get irritable so can mods. Despite what their shifty eyes and overpoweringly large avatars might suggest, they are in fact human. Maybe the mods over-reacted and maybe Rom over-reacted by cancelling his account. Whatever happened, it is a great loss to the site and the community.
 
Spanky Deluxe said:
As for what Rom said, he mentioned logging in to find a message saying he should go find a site more closer to his style since he wasn't a good match here.
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Yeah, that's a touch harsh and a useful reminder of what perhaps is at the nub of all this, which I've overlooked when commenting in this thread. Good post and fair comments, in my view.
 
Spanky Deluxe said:
As for what Rom said, he mentioned logging in to find a message saying he should go find a site more closer to his style since he wasn't a good match here.
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I, like you, don't actually know what the message said. However I highly doubt that that was the message the moderator left. I did however look at the actual page that shows up when you are put in time-out, "guested", or banned. It is the same page for all 3 the only difference being that it will tell you when the time-out is going to be lifted, if you are guested, or permanently banned. Underneath all that text is just standard template stuff.

My guess is he assumed his time-out was permanent (it wasn't) and read the following which I'm copy/pasting from the page:

If the ban is permanent

Your actions at MacRumors did not comply with the Forum Rules. We suggest that you find another forum site, one more suited to your style or posts.
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So that's my guess. That text is on the page regardless of if you're spamming the latest Nike shoes to if you got a time-out for snapping your fingers too loud (we wouldn't give you a time-out for that BTW). Keep in mind there is a bunch of stuff before and after this too.
 
rdowns said:
Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension? The thread title is Where did Rominator go?, not DylanLikesPorn needs help with his graphics card. :rolleyes:
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Rominator was going to help 2008 mac pro users with upgrading to the latest card, so his absence directly affects me.

Do you have an older Mac Pro? Are you looking to upgrade your video card? If not, why are you even here?
 
well, i'm glad we got that, that, and that cleared up. :p

can somebody give rommy some cookies so he comes back and educates us all? failing that, somebody ship him some Chimay or Stella. I would, but I don't know his addy irl. Also, that would be kinda creepy since I've never even sent him a PM before.

he just needs to know he's dearly missed here, regardless of the *g-rated* flame war this thread started :rolleyes:
 
renewed said:
Thanks, Dylan. I know the threads (I can use MRoogle) but I just wondered his significance. I guess he was some smartypants over in the desktop forums. I dunno. Never go to that part of the forest.
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Seems that he was some sort of god or cult leader.:p
 
Seeing as there's a lot of speculation on the topic, I'll take a different approach than I normally do and just spell out what happened so there's no further speculation.

1) Rominator got timeout'd/temp banned for breaking the personal insult rule
2) He complained about it and asked to close his account permanently
3) I reversed the timeout immediately, asked him not to insult people again
4) He still wanted his account closed
5) I closed his account, and said he could come back if he wanted to

As others have pointed out, there is only one ban/timeout screen. So, perhaps he read the wrong section and took it personally.

I think the mod behaved appropriately and consistently in this case, based on our longstanding rules. But can see how it may seem overkill, so we'll see about revising the rules.

arn
 
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