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Why do they not have any new information if it is really the fault of EMS?
I mean, they sent over a thousand packages and have no tracking. Then they believe EMS about the "holiday excuse". And now nothing has been sent and new shipping numbers will only be assigned for US customers? Still no word about the rest of the world.

If EMS really f*ed up and packages were just laying around then they should negotiate priority shipping or something similar. What is taking so long if they do not have the packages anymore? EMS is not delivering packages since yesterday.

I think before monday there will be no information nor (working) tracking or whatsoever.

I am wondering what will be next. Maybe the shippment will get lost by EMS or sent to the wrong country or problems with customs or a mix up with the labels.

Their excuses are so creative!!! How come a big shipping company will be so failed like this? Unbelievable!
 
Dear backers,

We have now received the awaited update from the shipping company:

1. Tracking numbers for all US backers remain unchanged.

2. Tracking numbers for the rest of the world have been changed and you will receive an email, expected to be within 12 hours.

3. Around 30 backers from the US have errors in their addresses and will be emailed directly, expected to be within 24 hours.

As regards the last batch, we are still collecting data in order to send as many as possible.

The shipping company has guaranteed that all tracking numbers will be working by this coming Monday, 14th September.

We hope this is the final update about tracking numbers and the next update will be released when packages are airborne.

We are sorry about this insane and unavoidable shipping mess; we fully understand your frustrations.

Best Regards,

Team Cupert Technology
 
Nice that they send out a newsletter already announcing Cinder on Amazon.com etc, but I'd prefer it, if we get our Cinders before everyone can just order it online directly.

Cupert Technology reveals first product availability

We are excited to inform you that we are currently negotiating with a number of distributors worldwide and we believe we are well placed to close several deals.

As of today we can announce that our entire product range will be available on Amazon US. We will be offering an option for global shipping from, we anticipate, 21st September. Please also note: in case we sell out of products even faster than predicted it will be possible for customers to pre-order.

More great news lies in the fact that we soon expect to find our products available both online and in retail outlets in Switzerland and most of Eastern Europe.

Finally. we receive a lot of requests asking whether we can make our products available directly on our website cupert.com. However, our response to this is that it will demand a setup globally which will place a huge demand on our resources at present. Rest assured that we will continue to make our products available in a way that we know will ultimately benefit both you the customer and support our continued growth.

Best regards,

Cupert Technology
 
Nice that they send out a newsletter already announcing Cinder on Amazon.com etc, but I'd prefer it, if we get our Cinders before everyone can just order it online directly.

That's what happened with Zolo. They were experiencing delay after delay. I don't think they ever even shipped out their product to their backers..but somehow all the items were available on Amazon, and with prime shipping!
 
Is this a joke?

I just received a new tracking number and then it states:

You can follow your shipment here from monday 21st September: http://www.ems.com.cn/english.html

So they won't ship them before? Sorry but now everybody will be really pissed and not believe that before it was the fault of EMS. How come the shipment will just be trackable on the day they are available on amazon.com???

EDIT: Ok, it was a mistake. They corrected it to 14th of Sept.

If its really available on Amazon.com by 21st of Sept., some people could get it quicker from Amazon than the backers. That is kind of sad. :(

China Post will probably take between 1-2 weeks.
 
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Here's a link to the Zolo Indiegogo: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zolo-a-magnetic-case-battery-cable-system--2#/story. Lots of people still have not receive their product, yet it's readily available on Amazon (and has been for a while). Looks like they're offering a 200% refund, though. Makes me wish that I waited to get double my money back, lol.
Why do they offer a 200% refund? Is the price on Amazon higher than the 200% refund?

Could it be that ANKER bought their product? Cause the batteries on Amazon.com are called Anker Zolo.
 
Why do they offer a 200% refund? Is the price on Amazon higher than the 200% refund?

Could it be that ANKER bought their product? Cause the batteries on Amazon.com are called Anker Zolo.

I don't know the details about the refund thing. They have been in partnership with Anker from the get go. My point was, that I wouldn't be surprised if I saw CINDER available on Amazon before the backers receive theirs (since the same thing happened with Zolo).
 
How can I buy a Cinder screen protector now? Doesn't look like I can from what I can tell.
 
Some people don't even have shipping numbers at all yet.

And now this: On their website Cupert states:

MSRP iPhone 6 and 6s $39.99
MSRP iPhone 6 Plus and 6s Plus $44.99

Well, guess what. On Indiegogo it stated MSRP $49,99 (without shipping).
 
Could it be that EMS and China Post is not the same?
I found this here:

http://chinaposttracking.org/ems-china-tracking/difference-between-china-post-and-ems-china.html
What is the difference between China Post and EMS China?
China Post

  1. China Post is mainly engaged in domestic and international mail delivery services, circulation of news papers, journals and books, stamp issuing, production and sale of philatelic collections, postal remittance services, confidential correspondence communication, postal financial services, postal express delivery and logistics services, e-business, a variety of postal agency businesses and other businesses as allowed by the state.
  2. China Post offers lower postage rate but has a longer delivery time. Transit days are based on the origin and destination country, as well as the type of service you choose. For air mail, the transit time range is between 7-30 days. For surface mail, it takes around 2 weeks for shipments from China to neighboring countries, and max 3 months from shipments to distant countries. The time range of SAL is a bit longer than air mail but way shorter than surface mail.
EMS China

  1. Express Mail Service (EMS) is an international express postal service offered by postal administration members of the Universal Postal Union. EMS China is owned by China Postal Express & Logistics which was co-founded by China Post Group and provincial postal companies. EMS China reaches home and abroad.
  2. EMS items enjoy preferential processing by the Posts, Customs and airlines.
  3. EMS mainly uses air delivery, shortening transit time to around 1-12 days.
  4. EMS promises 24/7 delivery and compensation for loss & delay.
  5. China Postal Express & Logistics provides International EMS Guarantee Service for EMS shipments to Australia, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, USA, UK, Spain. France, Singapore.
  6. EMS provides real-time track & trace service.
  7. The rate for EMS is higher than regular express service provider.

My tracking number starts with RM and ends with CN.
According to what I read, that means it comes from China (CN) bute is ONLY Registered Mail (RM) from China Post. This will take longer than EMS. (COULD SOMEBODY CONFIRM THIS PLEASE?)

The thing is, if you try to check a China Post registered mail item on the website from EMS, it will not show up, as it is not EMS. I have another China Post tracking number (RM.......CN) and it shows tracking at China Post, but not at EMS.

*EDIT*

UPDATE

THAT IS RIDICULOUS!

CUPERT STATES NOW:

All US tracking numbers are trackable now on this site:
http://www.17track.net/en/

Click the Big Blue center : UPU

It will tell you it has been cleared by the customs and going on the plane asap. Then US customers can track on EMS and USPS within a short time.

Non-US will be cleared tomorrow morning and same procedure goes for them.

Guess why you have to go to 17track and not EMS. BECAUSE ITS NOT EMS. Ems is EXPRESS SHIPPING, but they probably wanted to save money and are USING only China POST!

Nobody will have their Cinder before 21st of Sept.

People who order on Amazon will likely have it quicker.
Is this how they say THANK YOU to their backers???

If you are interested in the shipping time of China Post, have a look here:
http://track-chinapost.com/China_Post_Arrival_Time_Stat.php
USA: Between 8-62 days (Average: 16 days)
UK: Between 6-40 days (Average: 12 days)

 
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I've given up trying to track this. I'm just going to hope it'll show up around the same time other people have posted they received theirs.
I appreciate the info, frifra. Maybe I'll have better luck trying this on a PC vs. my phone.
It still says its unable to track it.
 
Could it be that EMS and China Post is not the same?
I found this here:

http://chinaposttracking.org/ems-china-tracking/difference-between-china-post-and-ems-china.html


My tracking number starts with RM and ends with CN.
According to what I read, that means it comes from China (CN) bute is ONLY Registered Mail (RM) from China Post. This will take longer than EMS. (COULD SOMEBODY CONFIRM THIS PLEASE?)

The thing is, if you try to check a China Post registered mail item on the website from EMS, it will not show up, as it is not EMS. I have another China Post tracking number (RM.......CN) and it shows tracking at China Post, but not at EMS.

*EDIT*

UPDATE

THAT IS RIDICULOUS!



Guess why you have to go to 17track and not EMS. BECAUSE ITS NOT EMS. Ems is EXPRESS SHIPPING, but they probably wanted to save money and are USING only China POST!

Nobody will have their Cinder before 21st of Sept.

People who order on Amazon will likely have it quicker.
Is this how they say THANK YOU to their backers???

If you are interested in the shipping time of China Post, have a look here:
http://track-chinapost.com/China_Post_Arrival_Time_Stat.php
USA: Between 8-62 days (Average: 16 days)
UK: Between 6-40 days (Average: 12 days)

So it's not really EMS after all huh? Anywhere on the project site that it says EMS (I doubt it now)?
If this is just regular registered post, from my experience it takes 10 to 60 days, regularly 30. That's NOT good news at all.
 
So it's not really EMS after all huh? Anywhere on the project site that it says EMS (I doubt it now)?
If this is just regular registered post, from my experience it takes 10 to 60 days, regularly 30. That's NOT good news at all.

This reminds me of how Nomad shipped their stands, it took weeks to get them registered mail through some service.
 
So it's not really EMS after all huh? Anywhere on the project site that it says EMS (I doubt it now)?
If this is just regular registered post, from my experience it takes 10 to 60 days, regularly 30. That's NOT good news at all.
They (Cupert) mentioned on the updates and in the comments quite often that it would be shipped by EMS. And now this. After all that delay it's not EMS. So far they did not comment on somebody's question on the IGG page if they now are only using China Post. But according to the tracking numbers it seems that way.

5 days ago

Dear backers, Finally we received all information. The shipping company hasnt provided the expected service in any way, why the shipping is delayed. This is the information we have for you: Every package has been picked up by the EMS and will we scanned(x-rayed) asap and afterwards actual shipping will begin. All US tracking codes has been renewed and you will receive an e-mail within 24 hours with the new tracking number. We are sorry about the situation but the packages are not in our hands. When we recieve new information we will send out a new update. Best Regards Team Cupert Technology

17 days ago

[...]
We hope that the EMS postal service may be able to collect all items tomorrow, which is Saturday, but we fully expect them to have done so by Monday morning.
[...]

This leads to the question what this whole "EMS takes longer due to holidays, and then it takes another 48hours before tracking shows" was all about.

Can somebody from the US tell us the first few letters (e.g. the first 2 letters) and the last few letters of his shipping number? Maybe it is EMS. But not if it starts with RM and ends with CN.

I just cannot understand why after all the delay they would now use even slower shipping. Is it to make sure that no backer receives it before people can buy it on amazon?!
 
Dear backers, Finally some good news. US packages have been cleared by customs. NON-US will be cleared tomorrow. You can track your package here: http://www.17track.net/en/ Click on the big blue box - UPU. When packages are in the air you can track your package using EMS, and US backers can also use USPS. We are told they should all be on the plane latest wednesday morning. We also cleared the remaining 30 US customers. 3rd and last batch are planned to be shipped next tuesday, we still need to collect the data needed from backers before we have enough to cover the batch. Best Regards Team Cupert Technology
 
My tracking number starts with LS and ends in CN
That does not look like EMS to me.
L stands for letter.
EMS tracking numbers should start with an E.

If you download the iOS app Parcel (4 free, but only allows to track 3 packages at a time) you can see who the carrier is: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/parcel-delivery-tracking/id375589283?


EDIT: Referring to the newest update posted by Candurin (thank you by the way :) ).
Next tuesday? A friend of mine still has no tracking number and he filled in everything correctly. He is not very happy now. They will send it on the 22nd of September. Ordering from Amazon.com will probably be faster. And he contacted them long time ago before all the delays.
 
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I purchased two super early birds and still only have one tracking number. This should be fun.
 
My shipment to Canada has a tracking number starting with RM and ending with CN. Looks like Registered Mail? Hoping I'm wrong.
 
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