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Which chip does your 6s(6s+) have?
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People are excited about new devices and this is a goofy expression of that. This and similar threads will die down once everyone realizes how stuff like this makes no functional difference in day to day use.
Anandtech:
"Despite the TSMC and Samsung processes being quite similar, the Samsung A9 is the smaller of the two by 8%, which as Chipworks notes is indicative of better density on Samsung’s 14nm node. What we don’t see, and the issue Apple really has to control for, is power consumption. Right now it’s a safe assumption that both chips can reach Apple’s required clockspeeds, so in order for Apple to utilize both in the iPhone 6s they need to make sure both perform as identically as possible, especially when it comes to idle power leakage and power consumption at different clockspeeds. The billion dollar question right now is whether either of the A9s is consistently better than the other one, and in which case by how much."
"With enough time, effort, and a very large number of iPhones, it should be possible to coarsely determine if the A9s significantly differ in battery life, and thereby power consumption."
"Despite the TSMC and Samsung processes being quite similar, the Samsung A9 is the smaller of the two by 8%, which as Chipworks notes is indicative of better density on Samsung’s 14nm node. What we don’t see, and the issue Apple really has to control for, is power consumption. Right now it’s a safe assumption that both chips can reach Apple’s required clockspeeds, so in order for Apple to utilize both in the iPhone 6s they need to make sure both perform as identically as possible, especially when it comes to idle power leakage and power consumption at different clockspeeds. The billion dollar question right now is whether either of the A9s is consistently better than the other one, and in which case by how much."
"With enough time, effort, and a very large number of iPhones, it should be possible to coarsely determine if the A9s significantly differ in battery life, and thereby power consumption."
TSMC Is rumored to be making all of the A10 chips next year. In addition I believe TSMC is making the A9x that is in the iPad Pro that should be the fastest mobile device yet.
I get a new phone each year and most people in this thread will want an iPhone 7 next year.
I'm sure the Samsung version is slightly better but both phones will perform within the stated limits Apple has set with regards to battery life and performance. One may perform slightly better.
I get a new phone each year and most people in this thread will want an iPhone 7 next year.
I'm sure the Samsung version is slightly better but both phones will perform within the stated limits Apple has set with regards to battery life and performance. One may perform slightly better.
Me either, but I did visit the site. Hope there's no drive by exploits on the site...
Well, with system status (I wasn't going to install unsigned programs), I now know my 6s is TMSC, which I figured from looking at the benchmark results here. We seem to have a 0.5 to 1.0% performance difference between the chips based on results posted here. That means....really nothing. Imagine someone talking about how they've overclocked their desktop machine from 3.5GHz to a whopping 3.53GHz! Same difference here.
FWIW, battery life on my phone has been incredible.
FWIW, battery life on my phone has been incredible.
Geekbench battery benchmark could tell better if there's difference (if any, and in what way) between the two.
Much more than likely any slight advantages the 14nm setup gave were weeded out intentionally to make the performance identical to 16nm. Apple is not stupid and realizes that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. You can't sell an item marked as the same "A9" which performs 1 way to some another another way to the other group of people.
If you dont think Apple saw this coming you're nuts.
If you dont think Apple saw this coming you're nuts.
I made a form to collect CPU data to see if any real difference exists between the two - check it out!
http://goo.gl/forms/BMLGhw9hCW
http://goo.gl/forms/BMLGhw9hCW
Good idea, i would upload my results but have been getting some weird scores since updating to 9.02 so wont bother
Inputted my information. We need Samsung chip people to respond there. It's all TSMC folks.
Just got done running the battery test overnight on both phones (Samsung and TSMC chips). Not sure if the test is accurate, but here are the results:
Samsung:
TSMC:
Surprisingly, my TSMC chip is able to last longer, by quite a large margin, than the Samsung chip. Also, FYI, both phones are pretty much identical as they are both running on the same backup and settings. Both updated to the latest iOS.
I'm going to run another test overnight again to see if it's still the same.
Samsung:
TSMC:
Surprisingly, my TSMC chip is able to last longer, by quite a large margin, than the Samsung chip. Also, FYI, both phones are pretty much identical as they are both running on the same backup and settings. Both updated to the latest iOS.
I'm going to run another test overnight again to see if it's still the same.
Wow. That looks like a quite big difference in favor of TSMC. Thanks for sharing the results.
Oh wow! That makes me feel much better about mine. The battery has regulated quite a bit since yesterday. I'll a run a test too tonight.
I can't find the post with the right way to run this, can you post it or advise me? Thank you!
Of course, for the best comparison, to make sure things are truly due to the chips and not other factors, one would need to test many phones from each chip maker and run them after full restores, with only geekbench downloaded immediately after setup. While an interesting test, it's just one sample from each chip maker, with too many other variables.
The large difference makes me think there are other factors affecting the test, such as the battery capacity of the iPhone with the Samsung A9. However, I happen to be on team TSMC, so I'll take that result!
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