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You forgot the iPhone 6S+ weighs something like 5 pounds more than the 6S.


Ok let's review, we have covered the following;

Battery issue
Variable chip issue
Screen blotches
Lagging
Freezing
3D Touch is a gimmick
Live Photos is gimmick
Over heating
Waterproofing
Stronger screen glass dropping
Stronger screen glass scratches

Have not seen any bent phones yet, who wants to get that going again by bending their phone?
 
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no freezing here. TSMC. wouldn't say the battery is amazing, but it's my first 'plus'. definitely better than my 6. not by a ton, though.
 
Yeh saying TSMC chips stutter is complete BS. In fact the 6S+ is the model showing stutters and is more than 50% Samsung chips.

The chip name likely has 0% effect on performance. The 2mm difference was likely evened out when the overall chips were tested to ensure both provide equal performance and power usage. You are talking 3 multi billion dollar companies after all, they know what they're doing and there is no conspiracy.
 
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There were similar mutterings of discontent last year with the flash storage. Some people had MLC and others TLC. One was faster to read and the other faster to write, but one had a longer life than the other and TLC was linked to hardware faults such as frequent crashing. This component disparity has existed long before the iPhone 6S. Some Macbooks had nicer displays than others, sourced from different vendors.

Sure Apple products have crazy demand and the logistics behind sourcing millions of components must be mindblowing. However, as a consumer you want the best components inside your device, not second-choice parts here and there because there was a supply problem. If you pay the same as the next guy then you expect an identical device. It's frustrating to know that you may be experiencing shorter battery life or another performance issue due to a scarcity of components.
 
There were similar mutterings of discontent last year with the flash storage. Some people had MLC and others TLC. One was faster to read and the other faster to write, but one had a longer life than the other and TLC was linked to hardware faults such as frequent crashing. This component disparity has existed long before the iPhone 6S. Some Macbooks had nicer displays than others, sourced from different vendors.

Sure Apple products have crazy demand and the logistics behind sourcing millions of components must be mindblowing. However, as a consumer you want the best components inside your device, not second-choice parts here and there because there was a supply problem. If you pay the same as the next guy then you expect an identical device. It's frustrating to know that you may be experiencing shorter battery life or another performance issue due to a scarcity of components.

Well said. This kind of lottery is not fair to paying customers.
 
Well said. This kind of lottery is not fair to paying customers.

Give me a break. All the components go through the same testing to meet the design requirements. We're not talking about some crap manufacturer sourced to pick up the slack. TSMC is the largest semiconductor manufacturer in the world, and they are the PRIMARY source of the A9.

This whole thing is so blown out of proportion through both exaggerated worry and flat out made up things by several posters (with one in particular).
 
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What the HEK is going on?

Hold on to your sanity, as all around you are running in circles screaming wildly, "MY PHONE IS FLAWED!!!"

Welcome to another September iPhone launch.

Maybe I should start a thread that my 6s Plus is perfect and THAT'S the problem! It should be flawed in some way!
 
Trending towards 50/50% on the 6S Plus,

And 80/20% on the 6S.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems there are a lot more 6S Plus specific problems threads here on MR, so if there's a processor related issue I'd think the Samsung would be the culprit. N'cest pas?

After all, haven't Samsung and Apple been suing each other for... ever?
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Man...look what I started with this thread....


Anway, I have a TSMC chip. It performs great, battery life is equal to what the 6 plus was (which is better than any other current mainstream phone I have used). No heat issues, no screen problems, no lag.

One reboot since Friday.

If we hadn't found this out, people would have found something else to freak out about.

A bit ridiculous...I imagine both chips perform in the same tolerance range, and if you ran both chips 100 times...they would both fluctuate within that range 100 times. I even bet the TSMC and Samsung chips would take turns performing better than the other....
 
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Man...look what I started with this thread....


Anway, I have a TSMC chip. It performs great, battery life is equal to what the 6 plus was (which is better than any other current mainstream phone I have used). No heat issues, no screen problems, no lag.

One reboot since Friday.

If we hadn't found this out, people would have found something else to freak out about.

A bit ridiculous...I imagine both chips perform in the same tolerance range, and if you ran both chips 100 times...they would both fluctuate within that range 100 times. I even bet the TSMC and Samsung chips would take turns performing better than the other....

I'm sure they all work out the same but a smaller chip using a more modern manufacturing process is technologically better if nothing else.
 
Okay, so the lag/freezing is tolerable. However, on standby at night with location services off and all email set to manual, also with background refresh disabled, I went from 100% to 32% in 7 hours... Please let this just be a settling in thing... TSMC

It can take a few days for an OS to settle in right?
 
It's bigger because TSMC is not technically as advanced as Samsung so they don't have the technology to make it smaller. If they are lacking there in respect to the process, what other component of the CPU is lacking? That is the question.


BJonson, just curious. What chip do you have in your phone?
 
I'm sure they all work out the same but a smaller chip using a more modern manufacturing process is technologically better if nothing else.

A meaningless distinction of both chips perform the same and produce the same results within the same tolerances.
 
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A meaningless distinction of both chips perform the same and produce the same results within the same tolerances.

Smaller chips using micro manufacturing processes are more efficient. They use less power and give off less heat. It's how chips improve. Raw processing speed has reduced but efficiency is on the increase.
 
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