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Which Is Your Favorite Web Browser?

Which Is Your Favorite Web Browser?

  • Safari

    Votes: 202 44.9%

  • Firefox

    Votes: 172 38.2%

  • Opera

    Votes: 20 4.4%

  • Flock

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • SeaMonkey

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Camino

    Votes: 17 3.8%

  • Internet Explorer

    Votes: 8 1.8%

  • OmniWeb

    Votes: 6 1.3%

  • Shiira

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Journler

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Demeter

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • DevonAgent

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • WaMCom

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Netscape

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Sunrise

    Votes: 1 0.2%

  • BumperCar

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • KidsBrowser

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • iCab

    Votes: 2 0.4%

  • Google Chrome

    Votes: 16 3.6%

  • Stainless

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Other...

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Total voters
    450
pepsipopup said:
its a project by mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minefield/)
its technically the exact same thing as firefox exect a bit faster in my opinion.
AND all the add ons work!:D:D:D
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No, Mozilla use the Minefield name for daily nightly builds
from a current development trunk.
You can find for example older Firefox 3.0 and 3.1 versions and up to date 3.2 and 4.0 with this name.
They have only one common ground: They are unfinished and only for developer.

And they have a different name, because only developer and advanced user should use these versions.

And you can find as well:
Firefox 3 & 3.0.5 optimized builds for G4 / G5 / Intel
with this name.
For example from http://www.beatnikpad.com/archives/2008/12/17/firefox
and this was really not a good idea from the creator of these special builds.

Makes everything only more complicated ;-)

By the way,
the code name for Firefox 3.1 is Shiretoko
When someone want to test up to date Firefox 3.1 nightly builds
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-1.9.1/
(and it is a stupid idea to use currently the 3.2 or 4.0 Minefield versions, except for special Mozilla developer)


Cheers
 
Airforcekid said:
:apple:Its fast simple and smooth however firefox is sweet with the ad ons but I can very easily live without them!:apple:
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Got any adblocks for Opera..? Been looking for some addons but haven't found anything so far.. :(
 
DamboLoriss said:
Opera has themes, opera has addons and plugins and it's safe. I'd say Opera rocks :) Do you disagree? And it even passsed acid3 test
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Opera don`t have add-ons.
It has widgets and you can compare it with the OS X Dashboard widgets, but Firefox add-ons are very different.

And Opera is a strange company.
Likely has nobody there ever read for example stuff like this: http://developer.apple.com/document...es/XHIGDesignProcess/chapter_3_section_3.html

Apply the 80 Percent Solution

During the design process, if you discover problems with your product design, you might consider applying the 80 percent solution—that is, designing your software to meet the needs of at least 80 percent of your users. This type of design typically favors simpler, more elegant approaches to problems.

If you try to design for the 20 percent of your target audience who are power users, your design may not be usable by the other 80 percent of users. Even though that smaller group of power users is likely to have good ideas for features, the majority of your user base may not think in the same way. Involving a broad range of users in your design process can help you find the 80 percent solution.

--- ---

It is no surprise that for example Google Chrome has after some weeks more user than Opera after many years.

Cheers
 
Question for all you Camino people,

Why do you say that its like FF but better for mac? AFAIK, it doesn't work with the addons, doesn't have the awesome smart location bar, doesnt have a comparable (visual) anti-phishing feature, and Im sure Im missing more.

So why is it just like FF? Aren't those things the reason people use FF in the first place? Why use Camino? Camino 2 isn't based on FF3 is it?
 
Iamtherealwoody said:
Question for all you Camino people,

Why do you say that its like FF but better for mac? AFAIK, it doesn't work with the addons, doesn't have the awesome smart location bar, doesnt have a comparable (visual) anti-phishing feature, and Im sure Im missing more.

So why is it just like FF? Aren't those things the reason people use FF in the first place? Why use Camino? Camino 2 isn't based on FF3 is it?
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its a native Mac application, not a port. its like FF in that it uses the same rendering engine. and its not overly stuffed with trivial things. imo.
 
PlaceofDis said:
its a native Mac application, not a port.
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???
OS X is for example based and mixed on many different precursor, NeXTStep and FreeBSD for example.
Safari based on a rendering engine build for Linux ..

When is a Mac application a native Mac app. and when is it a port?

Is Mac OS X for example a port or native, or is Safari native or a port?

Safari works as well on Windows.
Is it now a native cross platform app., only native , or only a port, or is it a native-port-cross-platform-based-on-a-port-Mac-only-and-by-the-way-Windows-native application ... or ...?

Cheers
 
PlaceofDis said:
its a native Mac application, not a port. its like FF in that it uses the same rendering engine. and its not overly stuffed with trivial things. imo.
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No I understand that it is not a port, its written in Cocoa and uses Gecko, but the majority of FF users say they use FF because of the addons and such, all features that Camino doesn't have. I just dont understand; Its a native, FF like app that doesn't have FF's best features. So why use it? Im not putting down Camino at all, I just am wondering if Im missing something.
 
Iamtherealwoody said:
No I understand that it is not a port, its written in Cocoa and uses Gecko, but the majority of FF users say they use FF because of the addons and such, all features that Camino doesn't have. I just dont understand; Its a native, FF like app that doesn't have FF's best features. So why use it? Im not putting down Camino at all, I just am wondering if Im missing something.
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maybe the addons aren't needed for everyone. there are plenty of nicely built in features that Camino has that makes it a good browser. some things i wish safari has. (safari doesn't have addons either and its used by plenty). its a good lightweight browser.
 
Aronnax said:
Opera don`t have add-ons.
It has widgets and you can compare it with the OS X Dashboard widgets, but Firefox add-ons are very different.

And Opera is a strange company.
Likely has nobody there ever read for example stuff like this: http://developer.apple.com/document...es/XHIGDesignProcess/chapter_3_section_3.html

Apply the 80 Percent Solution

During the design process, if you discover problems with your product design, you might consider applying the 80 percent solution—that is, designing your software to meet the needs of at least 80 percent of your users. This type of design typically favors simpler, more elegant approaches to problems.

If you try to design for the 20 percent of your target audience who are power users, your design may not be usable by the other 80 percent of users. Even though that smaller group of power users is likely to have good ideas for features, the majority of your user base may not think in the same way. Involving a broad range of users in your design process can help you find the 80 percent solution.

--- ---

It is no surprise that for example Google Chrome has after some weeks more user than Opera after many years.

Cheers
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So you're telling that Opera looks bad? It looks pretty much like Firefox with it's default theme on Macs.. And I don't really like how Chrome looks.. too Googly.. :D
 
Aronnax said:
Opera don`t have add-ons.
It has widgets and you can compare it with the OS X Dashboard widgets, but Firefox add-ons are very different.

And Opera is a strange company.
Likely has nobody there ever read for example stuff like this: http://developer.apple.com/document...es/XHIGDesignProcess/chapter_3_section_3.html

Apply the 80 Percent Solution

During the design process, if you discover problems with your product design, you might consider applying the 80 percent solution—that is, designing your software to meet the needs of at least 80 percent of your users. This type of design typically favors simpler, more elegant approaches to problems.

If you try to design for the 20 percent of your target audience who are power users, your design may not be usable by the other 80 percent of users. Even though that smaller group of power users is likely to have good ideas for features, the majority of your user base may not think in the same way. Involving a broad range of users in your design process can help you find the 80 percent solution.

--- ---

It is no surprise that for example Google Chrome has after some weeks more user than Opera after many years.

Cheers
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I guess the saved sessions, closed-tab-undoing, tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, faster browsing speed, better-features-in-a-still-faster package, the add-ons (that you claim do not exist), the wand features, and all the other things about Opera that Firefox has been copying for years, and oftentimes doesn't even have yet, do not account for anything. Have fun using your clunky copying machine. I'll use a real web browser.
 
ZiggyPastorius said:
I guess the saved sessions, closed-tab-undoing, tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, faster browsing speed, better-features-in-a-still-faster package, the add-ons (that you claim do not exist), the wand features, and all the other things about Opera that Firefox has been copying for years, and oftentimes doesn't even have yet, do not account for anything. Have fun using your clunky copying machine. I'll use a real web browser.
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+1 But do addons really exist?
 
ZiggyPastorius said:
I guess the saved sessions, closed-tab-undoing, tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, faster browsing speed, better-features-in-a-still-faster package, the add-ons (that you claim do not exist), the wand features, and all the other things about Opera that Firefox has been copying for years, and oftentimes doesn't even have yet, do not account for anything. Have fun using your clunky copying machine. I'll use a real web browser.
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;-) Opera had for example not invented the tabbed browsing. It was 1994 a Browser called „InternetWorks“ ... and so on ..

And other browser manufacturer learn from mistakes. For example Mozilla,
they had as well a Web-browser, e-mail and newsgroup client, IRC chat client, and HTML editing ... an all-in-one Internet application suite that nobody really want (the Mozilla-suite, now called SeaMonkey).
As well a browser with a bad usability.
They invented then Firefox ... small, easy to use .. and successful.

But Opera still think the user want an all-in-one Internet application suite ... and still add countless other new nerd stuff in the package ... to make it even more complicated to use. When Opera want to be successful is it only stupid.
Is is only a nerd browser and ever will be ;-)

Cheers
 
For some reason, Firefox just feels more secure than Safari(idk...might be purely mental), and on my lappy Firefox is a ******** faster than Safari once I enable pipelining and set the maxrequests to 8.
 
Safari

Safari wins for me its simple yet effective!

Firefox seems to have become more than a browser. It means more clutter around web pages that are already visually busy.
The sleek look of safari lets me focus on what I need a browser for, not to fill my computer with add-ons and plugins.
 
EchohcE said:
For some reason, Firefox just feels more secure than Safari(idk...might be purely mental), and on my lappy Firefox is a ******** faster than Safari once I enable pipelining and set the maxrequests to 8.
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on my moms laptop i did pipelining and omg that pos laptop was actually fast, like i didn't even have time to put my finger in my nose between searches.
i did it to my laptop and didn't notice anything untill i did the no delay thing, and that fed up my speed, but i changed it now so its as good as it was
 
EchohcE said:
For some reason, Firefox just feels more secure than Safari(idk...might be purely mental), and on my lappy Firefox is a ******** faster than Safari once I enable pipelining and set the maxrequests to 8.
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How do you enable pipeling and set the maxrequests in Firefox?
 
Safari with Glims:cool:

I use FF on the PC in the kid's room, but my son (13) prefers Safari on the PC. I use FF on the mac occasionally~doesn't load pages as fast nor is the appearance as consistent and clean as Safari. I didn't intend on using Safari when I switched~and I still use Thunderbird over Mail, but Safari just really "stuck" with me.

About every 6 months or so I'll get curious about Opera and download/upgrade and try it again~~somehow it is different enough that this old guy just don't get it...maybe some day:rolleyes:
 
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