I looked at the full tear down on ifixit. It takes time to get down to the keyboard, but its doable.
Edit: wtf? maybe im remembering a different teardown then, ill still try tho lol
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I looked at the full tear down on ifixit. It takes time to get down to the keyboard, but its doable.
Edit: wtf? maybe im remembering a different teardown then, ill still try tho lol
Don't get a Mac. Seriously. I'm on my aluminum MacBook typing this right now.
Go with the HP. You get so much more for your money. Better hardware, more connectivity, STANDARD features like HDMI (instead of mini-display port that requires an expensive adapter).
Honestly, what the people say here about "crashing" and "viruses" is all completely untrue.
People say OS X doesn't crash but Windows does. I've been using OS X and Vista now for the better portion of the last two years. I've had Tiger and Leopard crash more in the last two years than I have EVER had Windows crash in the decade and a half I've been using Windows.
I've had Vista since launch and I used it as a beta tester and I have honestly never had Vista crash a single time. Not once.
As far as viruses go, everything said here about being able to easily get a virus is all really a bunch of lies. As long as you run Windows Update (the same way you have to run Software Update in OS X) you'll be fine. I mean, if you visit a website with a virus, your browser (IE and Firefox) will warn you of the malicious content and try to stop you from downloading it. Should you CHOOSE to download it, Windows will try to stop you from executing it multiple times in multiple ways.
The only way you can truly get a virus in Vista is if YOU actively download it and run it despite the multiple warnings and attempts to get you to not do it.
I've been using Leopard since the day it came out and, honestly, Vista is so much better in many ways. It looks better, it runs better, its more stable, it learns what you use the most so that software opens faster.
You say you want to watch videos and movies, right? Then you have no choice but to go with Windows. Flash runs absolutely terrible on Mac OS X and, for some reason, Flash in OS X has some serious v-sync issues on nvidia GPUs. So you get all kinds of page tearing with youtube videos.
And Windows? Well, with Vista (and XP) you get system wide hardware acceleration for video. That means that ALL video supported by the GPU (everything these days) will be processed entirely by the GPU. It's called "bitstream decoding". Everything from decoding the video format to upscaling, deinterlacing, color correction, etc. is done on the GPU under Windows. OS X does NOT do this. Your DVDs will look better, you'll have the option to go with blu-ray, other video formats will also look better and use less CPU time compared to OS X.
Also, people talk about technology in Snow Leopard. Technology that lets software take advantage of the GPU to do things faster than the CPU would. Technology like that is ALREADY in Windows thanks to the latest drivers from nvidia and ATI/AMD.
Take it from someone who has both a new aluminum MacBook (on my THIRD Mac now thanks to build quality issues) and a Windows PC (HP notebook), you'll be MUCH better off with that HP than you would be with a MacBook.
My willingness to overlook the OP's decision? How so?
I made a post discussing facts. He said he wanted a Mac and I made a case against the Mac.
The amount of FUD in this thread regarding viruses and crashing is ridiculous and the OP needed to know the TRUTH.
The worst thing would be to stand by and let someone make a decision based on the fact that the majority of posts in response to their question were pure FUD.
Centrino is a platform, not a processor.
Centrino usually consists of an Intel processor (currently a Core 2 Duo), Intel wireless, Intel networking, Intel graphics, Intel everything really. Sometimes an exception can be made on Intel graphics. For example, I have a Windows PC with the "Centrino Duo". It has Intel everything except it has a dedicated nvidia GPU.
he enjoys the mac experience, but for some reason tends to have unbeleiveably long and continuous rants against it whenever he pops back up on the site.
Like I said tho, he decided he wanted a mac, not just off of our input, he was in it to buy one before this thread.
It was a replacement system.
I bought a white MacBook ($1299) back in March of '07. It had your typical build quality issues plus the optical drive died. Sent it in for repair and the repair facility sent it back to me in even worse condition than I shipped it out in. This happened twice then Apple replaced that system with another white MacBook.
In January and February of this year the case on the replacement system started to crack and fall apart. It took 3 trips to the repair facility for them to finally fix it properly.
Then in October of this year the case, again, started cracking. It, again, came back to me in worse shape than I sent it out in. Sent it back and then they sent it back to me with a proper case (and not scratched to all hell and back) but they had replaced the monitor with a defective unit. So they replaced it with a new aluminum MacBook.
The only reason I keep it is because I already have it.
It would be a fantastic system if it was priced $300 less and had a 250GB HDD.
The main reason I am "anti-Mac"? Well, prices. This MacBook should be $300 less. The $1599 model should be $1099 and have 4GB of RAM and a 320GB HDD. The $2499 MacBook Pro should be $1199. On top of that, OS X is not NEARLY as stable as people make it out to be. I've had it crash more than I've ever had Windows crash and I've been using Windows for about 13 more years than I've been using OS X.
So what was the processor that Intel made for the cheaper computers? I thought I remember reading once that they made one and it was the "reject" that didn't make the Intel grade for performance, but they used them in low end computers.
From what I gather from his posts, it was up in the air.
Then people in this thread posted a bunch of lies about viruses and crashing (when in reality, OS X is known for its crashing) then he made the decision to get a Mac.
Whats the "Mac experience"? Crashing? Still having to run Windows to make the system useful? I know I spend far more time in XP than I do in OS X on my aluminum MacBook.
Funny how most people have had MORE crashes with windows... LIARS!!
Just SELL it... you can still get your initial investment out of it. It'll make your life easier and less stressful!!
*sigh*, this is getting old. I personally think the HP is the better deal, bigger screen more mem, better video card fingerprint reader etc for cheaper then the mac.
You're thinking of the Celeron
And thats quite true. In the past the Celeron was a somewhat defective Pentium 2. If the processor came out and the cache was defective, they would disable the defective part leaving it with roughly half as much cache and sell it that way.
Now the Celeron is basically past generation parts resold as current and at a cheaper price. Up until recently they, for some stupid reason, didn't even have power management features. But now they're fully features past generation parts. But still, when it comes to the low end, its better to go with AMD.
Funny how most people have had MORE crashes with windows... LIARS!!
Just SELL it... you can still get your initial investment out of it. It'll make your life easier and less stressful!!
Ehhh dont be surprised, I went through 3 mbp's till i found the perfect one... the others ones kept having kernel panics.
Funny how most people have had MORE crashes with windows... LIARS!!
Just SELL it... you can still get your initial investment out of it. It'll make your life easier and less stressful!!
Most, if not all, people here who talk about the bad side of Windows don't even have any experience using Windows!
Most people here who talk about the bad things about Windows bring up things that haven't even been true since Windows 95!
Bringing up viruses and crashing in Windows is about as silly as someone trying to say that Mac OS still doesn't have pre-emptive multi-tasking.
Then I was wrong, your simply a troll that keeps coming back preaching how OSX is the worst thing in the world when 90% of the posts on this site say otherwise. You seem to be amazingly unlucky with your products.
Who is OSX known to for crashing? you?
I am glad that you did point out several important things tho, itd be unfair for OP to think that a macbook is somehow a knight in shining armor. Given the choice between this POS toshiba with vista im on right now or a macbook, ill take the macbook any day. Simply for OSX
Haha I was wondering how long it would take for the word "troll" to be brought up.
Its truly pathetic when people have to drop to that level just because they don't like hearing the facts about things.
Venture outside of this site and you'll see just how problematic OS X can be.
And honestly, why did you get a Toshiba notebook? They're known for skimping out on warranties (only to have to be sued to get them to finally honor it) and horrible build quality.
I do like my MacBook. When it runs Windows
But given the choice between that HP HDX and a MacBook? The choice is obvious. Better hardware with the HP, better software (Vista), better hardware and software support (more connectivity in ExpressCard, HDMI, card readers, the ability to play games without having to install a secondary OS)Not to make this a Mac Vs. Windows, but in my experience I haven't had any problems with the Mac yet. My XP was getting old and my wife has Vista and she had nothing but problems (locking up at least 3 times a night, always had to restart after "sleep" mode, and Ipod issues and later looking up Vista doesn't like Ipods. She also takes excellent care of it, her XP laptop is still working great). So I got a Mac and it has never locked up and I am having fun, so much my wife got one (gave her my whitebook).
I do agree they are pricey, but we have the money and I do have many friends who have Macs and never had issues so i thought I would try it and since after my wifes Vista issues, I really wanted to try it.
I guess it's all about luck.
I use three versions of Windows on a near daily basis, (95, 98 SE and XP) and two versions of OS X on a daily basis as well. (10.4 and 10.5) In my experience, Windows is much more prone to crashing then OS X is. I don't mean crashing like a BSOD, I mean like an application just randomly quitting without warning. (They do BSOD sometimes, though) I've had maybe two BSOD's on XP, and maybe two kernel panics on 10.5. Just shows that neither OS is perfect.
If Windows works for you, fantastic, it's a pretty good OS overall IMO. But don't come on here and bash Apple because you had a bad experience, or it's missing features Windows has or whatever. You like Windows more, use Windows. We don't need to hear about it.
Your wife's Vista issues are the result of hardware issues.
The only way Vista will lock up is if there is failing hardare.
Failing to wake up properly is also a hardware issue.
Let's not forget that the new MacBooks and MacBook Pros have confirmed issues with coming out of sleep mode. I've already had one instance where my MacBook would not wake up and I had to force shut down and restart.
Vista likes iPods just fine. I use my 80GB 5.5G with my Vista PC all the time. I've also had to use it to sync my 8GB 3G nano and iPhone during all the trips my MacBooks made out to Apple's repair facility.
It sounds to me like your wife just has hardware issues that need to be resolved. Thats the only way to explain the locking up and sleep issues.
No offense, but if you're using 95 and 98SE then the hardware that would actually run those OSes has got to be VERY old. Windows 95 drivers for hardware disappeared about 10 years ago, while 98SE drivers disappeared around 5 years ago. Its not unreasonable to expect failures of any kind in software when running on hardware that old because its going to become unstable.
I'm not here "bashing" OS X at all. I'm just correcting the lies stated by earlier posts.
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