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Which New Mac Will Apple Release at Its March Event?

HobeSoundDarryl said:
Yes, but you are assuming they can get enough 27” displays
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There has been a lot of conjecture on display availability, what type the redesigned iMac would possess. We were expecting something better, we have discussed a ProMotion display, OLED display, some kind of LED Full array. Some thought the larger screen didn't need as many LED zones as other displays.

The 24" is a 23.50 inch 16:9, 4480 x 2520 pixel 219 PPI, IPS, glossy: yes, 60 Hz. Its a fairly well implanted edge lit design if I had to guess as no one reports specifically on that. Local Dimming tests don't show regions that you have a bleeding or greater illumination when tested.

The 27" which I said could be as big as 29.5" with the previous form factor could be marketed as a 30" without change how much space it takes up really on someone's desk or workbench.

Apple has multiple vendors for acquiring displays. I am not sure we will see this optional nano-texture again given several display types that been floating as possibilities.

IMHO I don't think Apple really has any display shortages to content with, more its been just really improving the design. Best guess is its a larger version of a 24" iMac with chin, edge to edge LCD screen using full array LED back-lighting to be brighter display then 500 nits. Don't be shocked if this larger iMac also uses an external power supply like the 24". It greatly simplifies how you deal with CPU thermals internally like the latest MBP.
 
scaramoosh said:
I wonder what the M2 will even be? Cause it cannot be better than the M1 Pro....

So I reckon it'll just be a redesign with the M1 Pro chip with less GPU cores.

However that said... why? I think there is far more value in going for the $500 market.
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The M2 will be a development of the M1 with the same CPU cores (4P + 4E) but likely more GPU cores, with modest increases in CPU speed and energy efficiency. The M1 Pro is a completely different design family and will not be the basis of the M2
 
hagjohn said:
Personally, I would be hesitant to buy an M1 Pro/Max Mini knowing that Apple is releasing systems with M2 SoCs.
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Why? An M2 Pro/Max will probably lag the introduction of the M2 entry level by a year in the same way M1 Pro/Max came out a year after M1.
 
What I want is a M2 Mac mini with more powerful compute cores. Having 16 or 24 GPU cores is ok but so few things that I use will use those cores right now. Probably won’t for several years.
 
March 8th: Mac Mini Pro, M2 Mac Mini, M2 13" MBP. 3 new displays (24" 4.5K, 27" mini-LED, XDR Pro 2.)

WWDC: 27" iMac Pro. Mac Pro.

September: iPhone 14, Apple Watch 8, SE, & Pro.

October: iPad Pro, Redesigned MacBook Air, M2 24" iMac.
 
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nwcs said:
What I want is a M2 Mac mini with more powerful compute cores. Having 16 or 24 GPU cores is ok but so few things that I use will use those cores right now. Probably won’t for several years.
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rumors have it that m2 (non pro/max) will have 9-10 GPU cores and 4+4 CPU cores. these cores may be more fast/efficient. but overall, they are not worthy upgrades over m1
 
if my math is correct, wouldn't we need the new mac mini to have displayport 2.0? hdmi 2.1 isn't good enough for this rumored display
 
Realityck said:
Games, right?
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No, most astronomy packages like AstroPixelProcessor and PixInsight. Both are more demanding than most anything people will ever generally use and neither have effective GPU usage right now. It’s planned but won’t be there this year. Both run in Rosetta2 but are planned to be native in 18 months or so.
 
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StupidOpinion said:
rumors have it that m2 (non pro/max) will have 9-10 GPU cores and 4+4 CPU cores. these cores may be more fast/efficient. but overall, they are not worthy upgrades over m1
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If that ends up being the specs then it would be a mild upgrade for sure. Not enough to even lure any M1 user.
 
nwcs said:
No, most astronomy packages like AstroPixelProcessor and PixInsight. Both are more demanding than most anything people will ever generally use and neither have effective GPU usage right now. It’s planned but won’t be there this year. Both run in Rosetta2 but are planned to be native in 18 months or so.
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Speaking of that we still have the examples of a M1 Max with 32 cores not giving geekbench metal results that are not four times a M1 (22000 vs 71000). Apple has yet to optimize it seems how the GPU cores run with MacOS.
 
I might be in the minority, but I'd like the entry-level Mac Mini to be a MacBook Air without a screen. M2, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD and fanless. No moving parts (except the power button) and as compact as possible; just big enough to accommodate USB-C and HDMI.
 
nwcs said:
If that ends up being the specs then it would be a mild upgrade for sure. Not enough to even lure any M1 user.
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That's not who the upgrade is for though. The number of people who've purchased an M1 machine is still relatively small compared to the total Apple userbase and only a tiny fraction of the overall PC/laptop market as a whole.
 
I'll take either an iMac Pro with an M2 Max, a minimum 64GB of RAM, in the case of the XDR display, with double the LED Zones, or that same M2 Max in the mini case as a mini pro. I would be willing to bet that next to nothing would need to be done to the existing mini case to make that work either.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Sorry about those hopes. I think a great deal of the doubts about PRO & MAX Mini is some kind of mental lock that Mini must cost very little. Apple could put ANYTHING in one and make the case out of 18K gold. Recall that original generation Apple Watch 18K option for what $10K? Look what they did with iMac vs. iMac Pro: a well-established iMac with pricing starting about $1K-$2K suddenly had starter models up well over $4K. How did they rationalize it then? It is the pro-configured iMac. Why not a pro-configured Mini? It's not like they don't already have chips with that name on them. And the Mini it is replacing already has a configuration at $3K.

To anyone interested in the rumored Mini, just go into the store now and configure the 14" MBpro as you would want the Mini. Then best guess what kind of discount pricing would get by leaving out the uniquely laptop parts: everything in the lid, battery, better speakers, track pad, keyboard, etc.

My working best guess for "loaded" Mac Mini MAX 64GB 8TB Storage, etc is about $4999- give or take a few hundred. My best guess down at the other end for PRO with minimum specs could be $1299 but I'm guessing $1499, again give or take a hundred or two.

So yes, I believe $1500-$2K will buy a pretty good Mac Mini PRO. You MIGHT even be able to get a minimum spec M1 MAX for close to $2K. We'll see soon enough.

For all my own obvious hope for a loaded Mini, there is the endless thread that the new Mini must be coming with wave after wave of rumor-fueled expectations ramping up around events only to be dashed by no announcement at all... over and over and over and over again. Nevertheless, my own fingers are crossed. ?
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That is true, if I recall the Apple Watch just had a gold case, some luxury leather strap and they charged thousands for it, for what was probably 400 dollars worth of gold and leather and the exact same screen and internals made on the same Chinese factory line as every other Apple Watch variant. Not like a Swiss handmade masterpiece costing the same.

I think a M1 Pro Mac Mini with 16GB Ram and 1TB SSD for 1500 to 2000 would be alright. It’s a bit of a sting with the new M1’s that with the Max upgrade you have to double the ram also from 16GB.

And if no new Mac Mini Pro materialises, at least it’ll get an M2 chip if nothing else.
 
jasoncarle said:
I'll take either an iMac Pro with an M2 Max, a minimum 64GB of RAM, in the case of the XDR display, with double the LED Zones, or that same M2 Max in the mini case as a mini pro. I would be willing to bet that next to nothing would need to be done to the existing mini case to make that work either.
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As several people have already said, an M2pro or M2max are probably at minimum still around a year away from introduction.
 
I'm hoping for a 13" M2 "MacBook", that will replace the 13" MacBook Pro.

It doesn't make sense to have both 13" M1/M2 MBP and 14" M1/M2 Pro/Max MBP models, and it makes sense that the M2 will be introduced in an entry level product. A return to a "MacBook" that is not an Air or Pro, and that comes in a range of colours makes a lot of sense and is consistent with Apple re-introducing colour among their entry level products (M1 iMac).

The question though is whether they would announce the M2 entry level product(s) before they have finished transitioning the iMac Pro and Mac Pro onto M1 Apple silicon. I doubt it.
 
Pezimak said:
I think a M1 Pro Mac Mini with 16GB Ram and 1TB SSD for 1500 to 2000 would be alright. It’s a bit of a sting with the new M1’s that with the Max upgrade you have to double the ram also from 16GB.
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I wouldn't say "all right." Thats a GREAT computer! Think of all of the gushing people have done about regular M1 for all of this time. Now "pro" that gush for the one you might get in that price range.
 
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