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Sure I would. If you decreased it's thickness to just over 1cm, made it out of better construction than my cracking plastic macbook, uses less power, put a much better screen on it, increase the battery life 10x, put a PCIe SSD in it and doubled the RAM, then I would pay $1300 for it.

My early 2008 macbook runs all the programs I use on it just fine. The problem is, it doesn't hold a charge, is too heavy, has a craptastic screen, and the plastic is cracking along the sides.

Why an SSD? Thats another thing I don't get about the new MB. By only putting 1 port on it, Apple is assuming everyone buying it use cloud based services for all their needs and many here say they indeed do. So if you use cloud based services, why do you need hard drive space? This thing should be like the iPhone, 32-128GB storage. Everything is stored in the cloud right?
 
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Why an SSD? Thats another thing I don't get about the new MB. By only putting 1 port on it, Apple is assuming everyone buying it use cloud based services for all their needs and many here say they indeed do. So if you use cloud based services, why do you need hard drive space? This thing should be like the iPhone, 32-128GB storage. Everything is stored in the cloud right?

Wow... not that my opinion of your assessment was great to begin with, but it has tanked significantly with your comment.

Right now on my macbook, I have 120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive. A SATA SSD would be much faster, and a PCIe SSD is faster still. Just turning on the macbook itself would be faster, nevermind any of the other upgrades.

SSD vs Spinning disk has nothing to do with size requirements (in fact, spinning disks are much cheaper at higher capacities than SSDs), but in how quickly the computer can read and write data.

So if they had a 128GB drive for cheaper, I would probably go for that one.

But IF YOU READ WITH YOUR EYES at my comments, I did not say anything about hard drive capacity.
 
Why an SSD? Thats another thing I don't get about the new MB. By only putting 1 port on it, Apple is assuming everyone buying it use cloud based services for all their needs and many here say they indeed do. So if you use cloud based services, why do you need hard drive space? This thing should be like the iPhone, 32-128GB storage. Everything is stored in the cloud right?

The rMB is clearly not for you, man. This thing would not be a Mac if it had storage like iOS devices do.
 
The rMB is clearly not for you, man. This thing would not be a Mac if it had storage like iOS devices do.

You didn't answer my question, Im curious. If you don't need ports because everything you do is cloud based, why do you need hard drive space?
 
Thing could have only 1gb of free space and I'd buy it.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind if they had a lower priced option at 128.
 
Who said everything I do is cloud based?

Not you in particular, the people who are saying they don't need ports because they never connect anything to their laptops and everything they do is cloud based. Shouldn't need any hard drive space either then right?
 
Not you in particular, the people who are saying they don't need ports because they never connect anything to their laptops and everything they do is cloud based. Shouldn't need any hard drive space either then right?

Nope, not true at all. I don't need ports, but I certainly do need the storage space.
 
You didn't answer my question, Im curious. If you don't need ports because everything you do is cloud based, why do you need hard drive space?

I answered your question but you refuse to acknowledge it. I don't need the space, but they don't make a rMB with less than 256.

Also, USB-C being "universal" aka non proprietary, means that people will make USB-C drives. I could just keep a USB-A TO USB-C adaptor on my desktop at home and keep the USB-C drive with me if I needed to transfer files from work to home if I didn't feel like using Dropbox.
 
same for me. I don't need the ports and I don't need the storage either. If they made a 128Gb option that is cheaper then I would buy it. Currently I use a 2010 Macbook Air with a 64Gb SSD and I have 30Gb of free space:eek: My music comes from Spotify and my videos from Amazon Instant Video.
The Core-M is more than adequate for every task I will throw at it since my 2010 Air also does everything I need currently. The display and the faster SSD / more Ram are the things that will improve the laptop the most for me since those are the weak points for my machine currently. I am not limited by the CPU power for the tasks I do but with a faster SSD the difference is like day and night. Also a retina display is superb since I'm using the screen 100% of my time while I use that laptop. So I rather go with the MB than with a Macbook Air though it is clearly better "value" but why pay for more CPU power that I won't need all the time and get a non retina screen that I must use always. Pair those things with a fanless "no moving parts" design, Apples build quality and the new awesome form factor and that thing is damn nice.

Sure 1300$ is not cheap and we will probably see Apple drop the price by 100-200 in the next gen but there is nothing like this out there currently that can compare. And I'm talking about the whole package because there are laptops out there with a better cpu, more ports, lighter or thinner, more battery, cheaper price tag but not everything in one. You have to choose what compromises you are willing to make.
 
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Not you in particular, the people who are saying they don't need ports because they never connect anything to their laptops and everything they do is cloud based. Shouldn't need any hard drive space either then right?

Not needing ports doesn't necessarily imply a predominantly cloud-based scenario. Some of us do use native storage for pictures, documents, Keynote presentations, files, etc... and utilize AirDrop to transfer files between Macs and iOS devices. Works very, very well for me. Probably doesn't work well for people who work with very large files (video files, RAW images, software builds, CAD, etc...) People with those applications will probably prefer the Pro line of laptops, not only for the sake of faster, more reliable wired ports, but also for more powerful CPU/GPU capability.
But people need to stop assuming that MOST everyone NEEDS that kind of power and connectivity, and that there aren't a LOT of people who use laptops for professional applications that don't require mass data transfer&storage and power CPU/GPU performance. Writers, journalists, lawyers, CEOs, executives, teachers, students, pilots, salespersons, doctors, etc...etc... Many, many professions require lesser computing capabilities, and for them, the new rMB may indeed be ideally suited.
 
Why an SSD? Thats another thing I don't get about the new MB. By only putting 1 port on it, Apple is assuming everyone buying it use cloud based services for all their needs and many here say they indeed do. So if you use cloud based services, why do you need hard drive space? This thing should be like the iPhone, 32-128GB storage. Everything is stored in the cloud right?

You didn't answer my question, Im curious. If you don't need ports because everything you do is cloud based, why do you need hard drive space?

Maybe I didn't get the memo, but last time I ran DaisyDisk it showed that I had a lot of programs installed on my local disk. I know that vendors like Adobe really want me to run apps from their cloud, but so far I've held out and am only running programs I can install locally.

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Not needing ports doesn't necessarily imply a predominantly cloud-based scenario. Some of us do use native storage for pictures, documents, Keynote presentations, files, etc... and utilize AirDrop to transfer files between Macs and iOS devices. Works very, very well for me. Probably doesn't work well for people who work with very large files (video files, RAW images, software builds, CAD, etc...) People with those applications will probably prefer the Pro line of laptops, not only for the sake of faster, more reliable wired ports, but also for more powerful CPU/GPU capability.
But people need to stop assuming that MOST everyone NEEDS that kind of power and connectivity, and that there aren't a LOT of people who use laptops for professional applications that don't require mass data transfer&storage and power CPU/GPU performance. Writers, journalists, lawyers, CEOs, executives, teachers, students, pilots, salespersons, doctors, etc...etc... Many, many professions require lesser computing capabilities, and for them, the new rMB may indeed be ideally suited.

Thank you, yes, this ^^^.
 
Not you in particular, the people who are saying they don't need ports because they never connect anything to their laptops and everything they do is cloud based. Shouldn't need any hard drive space either then right?

If you have all your data stored on a NAS or in the cloud, you do not need to connect USB drives that much. Or even if it is stored on other computers. You use the network (!) to copy files.

Just because you store your files on network available resources do not mean that you do not need disk space.

This Macbook is so flexible that it will support several use cases. You can mix where you store your data between NAS, cloud services and USB drives. You can have very little on the machine or quite a lot.

The only usage scenarios that it do not support well is connecting several USB drives at the sametime or if you need to have a USB drive connected constantly.

Using a NAS or cloud services makes those two scenarios unlikely.
 
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Not you in particular, the people who are saying they don't need ports because they never connect anything to their laptops and everything they do is cloud based. Shouldn't need any hard drive space either then right?

You are being deliberately obtuse.

Clearly programs running on the macbook, including OSX and anything else the customer wants to run, need to be installed on the inbuilt drive. 16GB would be seriously limiting for this (if even possible).
iTunes in the cloud, plus cloud storage of videos, documents, any thing else, massively reduces the amount of storage space required on the device, but obviously doesn't mean that it needs no storage at all. Individual documents, music files, videos (etc etc) will need local storage while in use by the programs on the device. Once not in use, off to the cloud, either as primary storage or for backup.

I believe apple would also prefer better cpu performance in this device, but at the end of the day they don't make the chips. So they are maximising the other areas that affect real world use (amount of ram, SSD speed) to give an overall 'good enough' experience, which will improve as the core m platform becomes faster and more powerful.

This laptop will be loved by more people than hate it and will be more than fast enough for most people.
 
Changing your mind now is a bad decision

It would be a lot better to buy the device and use it in your normal use pattern for the time Apple allows and then return it if you don't like it. I kind of think a lot of people will be surprised at how fast it will do normal tasks.
 
It would be a lot better to buy the device and use it in your normal use pattern for the time Apple allows and then return it if you don't like it. I kind of think a lot of people will be surprised at how fast it will do normal tasks.

Thats how I am gonna do it as well!

Use it for about 12 days, if I dont like it, return it and get my money back
 
I was looking at getting a new MacBook, was either going to go with the Air or the new MacBook however the prices make me hope my 2011 MacBook Pro can last a little longer. In Canada the 512GB MacBook starts at $1899 ($2145.87 with taxes) which is crazy in my opinion for what it is. I'll most likely have to be looking at the refurbished models when I want to purchase a new Mac. If the price was right, I may have looked more at this model.
 
It would be a lot better to buy the device and use it in your normal use pattern for the time Apple allows and then return it if you don't like it. I kind of think a lot of people will be surprised at how fast it will do normal tasks.

Regarding your post title, why is it a bad decision if someone changes their mind? :confused:
 
Not you in particular, the people who are saying they don't need ports because they never connect anything to their laptops and everything they do is cloud based. Shouldn't need any hard drive space either then right?

I don't use the ports, but not because everything I do is cloud-based. I absolutely need my data to be available offline. Which is what Apple and other cloud providers conveniently forget. Everybody's not connected every minute of every day.

I use Dropbox to share data with my other computers. I get by with 128Gb but 256Gb would be much better. I don't need 512 on this machine, though.

In more than 3 years, I've used a single USB port on my MBA once.
 
Not needing ports doesn't necessarily imply a predominantly cloud-based scenario. Some of us do use native storage for pictures, documents, Keynote presentations, files, etc... and utilize AirDrop to transfer files between Macs and iOS devices. Works very, very well for me. Probably doesn't work well for people who work with very large files (video files, RAW images, software builds, CAD, etc...) People with those applications will probably prefer the Pro line of laptops, not only for the sake of faster, more reliable wired ports, but also for more powerful CPU/GPU capability.
But people need to stop assuming that MOST everyone NEEDS that kind of power and connectivity, and that there aren't a LOT of people who use laptops for professional applications that don't require mass data transfer&storage and power CPU/GPU performance. Writers, journalists, lawyers, CEOs, executives, teachers, students, pilots, salespersons, doctors, etc...etc... Many, many professions require lesser computing capabilities, and for them, the new rMB may indeed be ideally suited.

Yes. Thank you for this. I don't know how hard these things can be for some people to realize.
 
I was all for getting the new MacBook and was super excited, then i seen the 2014 11 Base MBA in the certified refurbished store for a price i just couldn't pass up. I don't need much, i only do basic things so this is right for me. In the end the money saved can be put towards the :apple: sport watch and leather loop band, and i still saved a couple hundred. Also i couldn't be happier with my MBA. I'll probably pick up the new rMB in three years when they sort things out, has at least a skylake processor, price drops and is in the certified refurb store.
 
I was all for getting the new MacBook and was super excited, then i seen the 2014 11 Base MBA in the certified refurbished store for a price i just couldn't pass up. I don't need much, i only do basic things so this is right for me. In the end the money saved can be put towards the :apple: sport watch and leather loop band, and i still saved a couple hundred. Also i couldn't be happier with my MBA. I'll probably pick up the new rMB in three years when they sort things out, has at least a skylake processor, price drops and is in the certified refurb store.

People are going to make calls differently, which is ok. I bought an 11" MBA last month but returned it because I could not put up with the crappy display. You can put a dollar price tag on how much I hated the display: $550. That's the price difference between the MBA I returned and the rMB that I plan to buy. As I said, YMMV. I have no plans to buy the Watch, but the imagination and tech that they have put into it is unbelievable - enjoy it. :apple:
 
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