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Who else thinks that future iPhones should borrow one of Pixel's best new features?

No.
There is no database saved locally ON YOUR PHONE with tens of thousands of songs.
Such feature doesn't work magically without connecting to remote servers but believe whatever you want.


deany said:
"I dont think you understand what they're presenting in the video."

"That database is accessed remotely."


Well even your superior mind needs to listen again, she said:
"On device Machine Learning detects the music thats playing and matches it to a database of tens of thousands of sound patterns on your phone"

not accessed "remotely" as you state.

in full:

"What makes this feature so special, is that the music is identified without your Pixel 2 sending any information to Google.
On device Machine Learning detects the music thats playing and matches it to a database of tens of thousands of sound patterns on your phone."....

what she didn't say
....and then sends this data to the Shazam server" but I don't know for 100% sure.
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sdwaltz said:
Nah.

Most of the "features" of Android phones are just half-baked gimmicks for the marketing team.

Then come the "but my phone does this this and this, your iPhone doesn't do that!"

...yeah, because Apple actually makes sure features are ready for primetime and actually add to the user experience before throwing stuff in just for the sake of saying "WE DID IT FIRST!"
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Have you used iOS 11? LOL
 
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Does the squeezy thingie work with cases? I can see the self-programmable real button that someone mentioned being more useful than squeezing the phone itself.
 
Applejuiced said:
No.
There is no database saved locally ON YOUR PHONE with tens of thousands of songs.
Such feature doesn't work magically without connecting to remote servers but believe whatever you want.
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Didn't you read my post? re: Shazam, do you want to borrow my glasses?
 
Applejuiced said:
No.
There is no database saved locally ON YOUR PHONE with tens of thousands of songs.
Such feature doesn't work magically without connecting to remote servers but believe whatever you want.
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This is absolutely true. It has to connect to a remote server.
 
akash.nu said:
This is absolutely true. It has to connect to a remote server.
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Its clearly 2 step

• On device Machine Learning detects the music thats playing and matches it to a database of tens of thousands of sound patterns on your Pixel 2 smartphone.

• send said data above to company like Shazam.

We had 'slide rules' at school when I was a kid and even I can work this out!:rolleyes:
 
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So just to be clear.
Do you still think it doesnt contact a remote server or not?


deany said:
Its clearly 2 step

• On device Machine Learning detects the music thats playing and matches it to a database of tens of thousands of sound patterns on your Pixel 2 smartphone.

• send said data above to company like Shazam.

We had 'slide rules' at school when I was a kid and even I can work this out!:rolleyes:
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I'm not so sure adding that function would make the iPhone better. It seems like when HTC added it to their U11 phone, it made the phone structurally weaker compared to the previous version of the phone which didn't have the "squeeze" function.

The bend test and analysis of the HTC U11 takes place from around the 4:30 mark.

 
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Techradar are reporting it as using some kind of on-phone database.
 
It's connects to a database, which is periodically updated and stored locally on your phone. It's not remotely connecting to a database on a server each time it hears a song. It's connecting to a database stored locally, and said database is periodically updated over the weeks, months, etc.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Pix...cognition-beats-Auto-Shazam-heres-why_id98650

the Unbox Therapy hands-on video tested this.
 
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cardinalryan said:
I just don't think you get it. What I'm trying to explain to you is that I am the customer...I'm not paid millions of dollars to innovate, it is not my job to come up with the ideas, my part is buying the product and using the great innovations that the company has produced. Steve Jobs was the ultimate innovator. He saw things that the vast majority of us couldn't have dreamed of in a million years. Now, asking for another Steve Jobs is a bit like basketball asking for another Michael Jordan...Apple would settle for its Kobe Bryant at this point. Staying on the basketball theme, Tim Cook isn't even your average NBA bench player.
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You don't think the TrueDepth camera is innovation? We now have the equivalent of a kinect in a phone. Along with Face ID, this should open up some major innovations from developers using the technology.
 
How many GB's would that audio database saved on your device would be?
Cause there is millions of songs out there.
If it saves and updates all those audio files on the phone itself periodically it could be huge amounts of data.


Cryates said:
It's connects to a database, which is periodically updated and stored locally on your phone. It's not remotely connecting to a database on a server each time it hears a song. It's connecting to a database stored locally, and said database is periodically updated over the weeks, months, etc.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Pix...cognition-beats-Auto-Shazam-heres-why_id98650

the Unbox Therapy hands-on video tested this.
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I wonder what else Google listens for besides song data. They can always be using your voice, conversations, and whatever else it can actually listen to all day at anytime. As long as my phone is around, I wouldnt want it actively listening until I unlock the device which I do currently for OK Google.
 
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Government agencies can do that and have been doing it for a long time now ;)
They dont have to bug you or stick a tracker on your car. They got you 24/7 under surveillance if they want to.


jamesrick80 said:
I wonder what else Google listens for besides song data. They can always be using your voice, conversations, and whatever else it can actually listen to all day at anytime. As long as my phone is around, I wouldnt want it actively listening until I unlock the device which I do currently for OK Google.
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Applejuiced said:
How many GB's would that audio database saved on your device would be?
Cause there is millions of songs out there.
If it saves and updates all those audio files on the phone itself periodically it could be huge amounts of data.
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I’m going to assume that a database of patterned algorithms takes up a lot less space than a database full of MP3 files. As in minimal space otherwise it would not be feasible for them to do this.
 
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That's what I figured and maybe just the newest/popular sound files to compare the audio to.
Im sure it wont recognize everything playing or different language songs etc....
Such small database saved on the phone would be pretty limited.


Cryates said:
I’m going to assume that a database of patterned algorithms takes up a lot less space than a database full of MP3 files. As in minimal space otherwise it would not be feasible for them to do this.
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Applejuiced said:
That's what I figured and maybe just the newest/popular sound files to compare the audio to.
Im sure it wont recognize everything playing or different language songs etc....
Such small database saved on the phone would be pretty limited.
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The screenshot in the article below indicates the app that does the work consumes 2.54mb of storage. Not sure if that encompasses the database as well, or if that’s purely just that app’s storage and the database is separate.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...-play-store-confirms-always-music-id-feature/
 
Edge Sense is dumb...
they O ready said about HTC edge sense, did you not see the review?
just a waste of space
 
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