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Who is going to wait for 2nd gen iMac 27" Retina?
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Yes, sort of. But 640Mbps is still pretty stonking for an external drive. You have a higher speed with the internal main drive of the mac anyway, it being PCI-e. Not many people run striped raid SSDs as an external drive, and those that do can hardly be running on a tight budget!
Also, you are assuming that USB3.1 devices are going to be the same price as USB3 interfaces, which is not necessarily true. Neither is the current price of TB devices necessarily going to stay as high as it is.
I'm just saying that the increased speed of USB3.1, for what it's used for, is not hugely significant given that you already have an even higher speed interface, albeit one that has a more expensive overhead. I'd not call it a blocking reason for purchase.
It's the power delivery combined with carrying video and audio that makes USB 3.1 so attractive. USB 3.1 is capable of carrying 100 watts, a huge increase from the 4.5 watts of USB 3.0. That's enough to power a entire laptop over USB 3.1, no more separate power brick needed. USB 3.1 can also carry Displayport video and audio like Thunderbolt so monitors can be fully powered and run with a single USB 3.1 cable. USB 3.1 lets you get rid HDMI, DVI or Displayport on the computer (you can still connect to those ports using adapters). For a device maker like Apple, USB 3.1 would let it build smaller form factors. Thunderbolt is a data interface, the combination of data plus power makes USB 3.1 a far more flexible and exciting development. It can be the all-in-one cable that gets rid of the clutter of multiple interface and power ports and cable.
same here with the exact same BTO specs. I haven't even upgraded the ram nor to an SSD, but the damn thing still runs perfectly fine on Yosemite without any issues (even a little faster compared to the older OS X).
there's no urgent need to upgrade because the iMac has been running flawlessly, so I'll definitely wait until the new broad well chips are released (or save some money and go the refurb route).
While you are waiting you could go for a good thunderbolt array to move your data external. I've got a Pegasus 2 R4 and it's great. With a long enough (and expensive) cable you can put the storage in another room if you need to.
If these specs are correct you fools will owe apple an engraved apology.....enjoy your imac in 2 years time, while we reap it now!
If we compare the scores:
980m - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8680916 - 11229
m295x - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8832926 - 11491
My GTX 760 - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7815392 - 8746
If it proves to be at the level than the 980m as it seems on this bench, then it will be a GO!!
If we compare the scores:
980m - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8680916 - 11229
m295x - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8832926 - 11491
My GTX 760 - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7815392 - 8746
If it proves to be at the level than the 980m as it seems on this bench, then it will be a GO!!
Yeh it looks good and even if it matches performance of 980m or so, but....
Im still torn, since i discovered that as early as february next year AMD will be releasing new GPU with High Bandwidth Memory, which will be 4.5 times as fast as DDR5...
I think its R9 380x Pirate Islands or something like that, anyway 300 series just around the corner, and apparently it will be a massive improvement, and more than likely to be included in next refresh of Imac retina, together with Broadwell or even better - with Skylake CPU....
Buy now or wait for a fall 2015 refresh with all that goodness on board?
I have a 2009 I7 just like yours and never dreamed it would still be viable 5 years later. It's still fast enough for Final Cut X and will take the new operating systems just fine. I'm going to keep it going for another 2 years, I think.
me i just bought the 2013 suped out and if this came with the new processors maybe id get it but just to jump to retina isn't worth it,i don't watch or stream 4k movies or do photo editing so what's the point?to be honest looking at my retina 27 compared to my macbook retina i don't even notice a difference.but looking at my girls macbook air i def see a difference on a non retina display
What are the benefits of waiting for a second gen?
I can use my rMP+monitor for another year or change to a retina iMac. Is waiting another year worth it?
1. spec bump?
2. bugs? but aren't bugs usually a software fix?
I can use my rMP+monitor for another year or change to a retina iMac. Is waiting another year worth it?
1. spec bump?
2. bugs? but aren't bugs usually a software fix?
Both. Spec bump, and both hardware and software fixes. The dreaded "First Gen Syndrome" is the most important reason.
I didn't wait for a few reasons, though.
- I got my rMBP when it came out and have never ever had a problem. I realize I've been somewhat lucky but I think the vast majority of people don't have any problems.
- I've been waiting since then for a Retina desktop monitor, while getting as much time as I could out of my current monitor. But this monitor is at the end of its life, and I don't think it will last another year.
- I was hoping for a standalone monitor, but now that I've read a lot about the riMac I realize this is *not* going to happen any time soon.
- I had the money saved just for that purpose (although I did have to also use the money I had saved for the rMBA, thanks Apple for not releasing that now), and I can afford it.
- I don't need a war horse for my usage, so I'm willing to take the (reduced IMO) risk, simply because even the base specs will be more than enough, and probably overkill for what I'm going to do with it. So I don't think I'm taking a big risk at all, and I can live without the future spec bumps and famed Skylake or whatever magical next component is (provided Intel doesn't release it in 2037).
- In this domain, if you wait for the next wondeful CPU / GPU / Pixel Color, you never get anything. I've learned that it's often better to get the best you can when you can, instead of waiting forever and living with outdated stuff all the time.
To me, the Retina alone is worth everything else. Monitors have trailed behind for a loooong time, and it's past time someone revived them a little. This one is clearly ahead of the rest of the computer tech, so it's a risk, yes, but I trust Apple to do it right, or at least right enough (with Apple Care lol).
I also got the rMBP when it just came out and it seems to be fine. I will probably pull the trigger on this retina iMac. Did you upgrade the GPU?
No I am pretty sure they won't have a new design next year.
The new thin form factor was just out om late 2012, and provided that they just unveal the 5k iMac in so high profile I bet the design would stay for at least a couple more years.
Desktop redesign has a much longer cycle than your iOS devices...look at how many years it took for Mac Pro to have an overhaul...and the Mac Mini is the same as it is for god knows how long.