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I'm waiting until Apple figures out how to invest in certified workstation graphics, so that I can buy the same NVIDIA and ATI graphics cards that Windows and Linux users enjoy.
 
I'm waiting until Apple figures out how to invest in certified workstation graphics, so that I can buy the same NVIDIA and ATI graphics cards that Windows and Linux users enjoy.

Why not contact ATI and NVIDIA? It's up to them.
 
Why not contact ATI and NVIDIA? It's up to them.

I tried that already, and the problem is that they look at the market and see nobody significant in the Mac segment. It's too expensive to do concurrent development for both Windows/Linux and the few Mac users who might use their products, so nothing gets done.

Apple used to offer the workstation graphics with the G5 PowerMacs, but then dropped it and went back to gaming cards. The workstation card was overpriced and outdated, and few people will buy that when you could buy a Linux box and get a better graphics card for less. It's going to take Apple to put some money into supporting the workstation products and the ISV certifications for something to get done about this problem. There is a workstation card available for the Mac now, but it's nothing like the wide selection of both NVIDIA QuadroFX and ATI Fire cards that work with the rest of the market.
 
I tried that already, and the problem is that they look at the market and see nobody significant in the Mac segment. It's too expensive to do concurrent development for both Windows/Linux and the few Mac users who might use their products, so nothing gets done.

Apple used to offer the workstation graphics with the G5 PowerMacs, but then dropped it and went back to gaming cards. The workstation card was overpriced and outdated, and few people will buy that when you could buy a Linux box and get a better graphics card for less. It's going to take Apple to put some money into supporting the workstation products and the ISV certifications for something to get done about this problem. There is a workstation card available for the Mac now, but it's nothing like the wide selection of both NVIDIA QuadroFX and ATI Fire cards that work with the rest of the market.

Apple clearly felt it wasn't in their best interests to subsidize the production of Mac versions, presumably nobody was buying them. Sucks, but that's how it is in a minority market.
 
Gulftown running at Cebit

All this multi-threading from a single CPU!!! :eek: :D

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I've been running on a quad G5 at home for over 4 years now - its been acting up lately, so I'll be dropping some cash on the 12 core when its out. Any new estimates on the date?

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I think all eyes are on March 16th.

As much as I'd like to believe that, I just have a gut feeling Apple will not update the MP or any Mac for that matter this month.

Because unfortunately, I think all eyes are on the iPad really :(
 
As much as I'd like to believe that, I just have a gut feeling Apple will not update the MP or any Mac for that matter this month.

Because unfortunately, I think all eyes are on the iPad really :(

Last year, if I recall correctly, there wasn't any fan-fare or announcement about the Mac Pro update. Just a fairly quiet update to the store and product pages on Apple.com. I don't even think it made the home page. If that's the kind of low-key update we can expect again this year, it shouldn't be impacted by anything else going on at Apple.
 
Last year, if I recall correctly, there wasn't any fan-fare or announcement about the Mac Pro update. Just a fairly quiet update to the store and product pages on Apple.com. I don't even think it made the home page. If that's the kind of low-key update we can expect again this year, it shouldn't be impacted by anything else going on at Apple.

I am definitely HOPING.... Actually, hopefully they can stick the Mac Pro in one of the small thumbnail graphics at the bottom.

Hell, Aperture is on there, so yea, let's pray for a March 16 date!
 
Last year, if I recall correctly, there wasn't any fan-fare or announcement about the Mac Pro update. Just a fairly quiet update to the store and product pages on Apple.com. I don't even think it made the home page. If that's the kind of low-key update we can expect again this year, it shouldn't be impacted by anything else going on at Apple.

That is the kind of update you can expect this year and indefinitely for the Mac Pro. 2008 was like that too. The only time they'll even get more than a press release on the internet is if they're released concurrently with a big ticket item that does get its own event. For example, if they updated all the desktops at once.

I don't think it's as dead as many people on the forum do, but it certainly won't get announcements because it neither wants nor needs that kind of PR push. Certainly I'd rather they put resources into improving it than marketing it, because everybody who needs to know about it already does.
 
That is the kind of update you can expect this year and indefinitely for the Mac Pro. 2008 was like that too. The only time they'll even get more than a press release on the internet is if they're released concurrently with a big ticket item that does get its own event. For example, if they updated all the desktops at once.

I don't think it's as dead as many people on the forum do, but it certainly won't get announcements because it neither wants nor needs that kind of PR push. Certainly I'd rather they put resources into improving it than marketing it, because everybody who needs to know about it already does.

well maybe if they get updated at WWDC
 
That is the kind of update you can expect this year and indefinitely for the Mac Pro. 2008 was like that too. The only time they'll even get more than a press release on the internet is if they're released concurrently with a big ticket item that does get its own event. For example, if they updated all the desktops at once.

They updated all the desktops at the same time last year, so it needs even more than that. The 2007 Mac Pro wasn't announced with anything more than a press release as NAB began IIRC. Really there is nothing much to say about Mac Pros. They just keep moving forward with expected technology.
 
I keep pushing my purchase deadline back farther and farther. The latest "plan" it to wait until March 16th....but no later. :)

Previously it was February 15th (due to Mac World) and then March 1st and now the 16th.

The clients are starting to roll in, I need something other than my laptop to edit on. Come on Apple, please release something soon.
 
March 16th sounds good to me. It'll be a low-key update, as all Mac Pro updates are....unless it gets a significant case redesign or such.

*crosses fingers for ATI 5970*
 
Well, I think I may have some of you beat: I've been running on a 2003 dual 2.0 that just died (again).

I am definitely looking at the 6 or 12 core model.

Slight side note: G5 users, I have done research and noticed a high rate of motherboard failures especially for my model. Last year my motherboard died (mac was out of warranty), and Apple and I worked out an agreement for the fix. Barely one year later, the same thing happens, now Apple says I'm on my own. I think there should of been a recall.

I have written a letter and will continue doing so. I just can't believe an $800.00 motherboard only lasts one year.

I assume you Intel users have less problems? (G5's ran hot and heat is not good for electronics)
 
I currently have a 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro which I have been using for Final Cut and Aperture, however its just not quick enough. I originally bought it so I could be mobile however I never really use those programs when I'm on the road. I mostly only check emails and surf the web.

The 27" i7 iMac could possibly work however the glossy screen is rubbish for precise colour work and I'd like to be able to put a HD capture card in and crank the ram up. So that leaves me with a Mac Pro as the only option. I'm thinking of getting an iPad as well so I can completely get rid of the MBP and still be able to check email and surf the web on the road.

Quick question. Apple charges way to much for Ram and the like as options on their website. I know to get ram from crucial however what are people doing for the graphics cards. Are most people flashing newer cards to work or are just using apples options but getting them from else where?

I work for a large broadcaster here in Australia, so have access to Avid edit suites so this is for home use as well as some projects I do on the side. I'd like to be able to do some gaming (especially if team fortress is coming to mac) so I'll be running Windows 7 on it as well. I'll also be doing a little bit of Cinema 4d on it as well.
 
12 core la la la

seriously, aside from logic pro and I don't know what, is a 12 core machine even useful? I want to use photoshop at top speed, but it's 32 bit! will snow leopard's distributive abilities be able to work some magic ?

and what other apps out there will be able to make use of such wondrous speeds?
anyone?

i am considering a business lease, for three years, and i want the latest greatest mac pro, since that is what I am gonna pay for, but I am wondering if I can just go for the least powerful model since it seems like I won't even be able to use all that power for what I want to do.....it'll save me some loot!:cool:
 
I want to use photoshop at top speed, but it's 32 bit! will snow leopard's distributive abilities be able to work some magic ?

64-bit mostly lets an app use more memory.

and what other apps out there will be able to make use of such wondrous speeds?
anyone?

most 3d apps - Studio Max, Maya, Cinema 4d, etc
A lot of video encoding programs

On my i7 I routinely compress video, FTP files and surf the web without much of a sweat.

You are touching on a relevant point though, a lot of people don't really need all these cores and would benefit more from faster CPUs, more ram and SSDs.
 
And as time goes on more and more programs will use those cores. In 2 years time youll be glad you have 12.

Sure there will be a quad core in the line up tho, for non pros like me that just want a fast upgradable computer.
 
And as time goes on more and more programs will use those cores. In 2 years time youll be glad you have 12.

Sure there will be a quad core in the line up tho, for non pros like me that just want a fast upgradable computer.
Software development cycles, particularly professional ones, may not be that fast.

I'm thinking at least 5 years myself.
 
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