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Who's the next England manager? Poor sod.
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i think the coach is only part of the problem.. i think the english have a problem in midfield lineup .. not because of the lack of good players but more a lack of any system at all ... oh and gerrad and lampard simply don't belong into the same team
oh and what _good_ defensive midfielder is available if Hargreaves is injured ? none ?
and why for the love of god can't england come up with some good goalkeepers
the defense is good and so are the strikers good enough it's just that the team can' get the ball forward effectivly
edit: that said england won against 1:0 austria recently in a friendly which, knowing the austrian performance over the last 3-4 years, would have been enough reason to sack Mclaren already back then
oh and what _good_ defensive midfielder is available if Hargreaves is injured ? none ?
and why for the love of god can't england come up with some good goalkeepers
the defense is good and so are the strikers good enough it's just that the team can' get the ball forward effectivly
edit: that said england won against 1:0 austria recently in a friendly which, knowing the austrian performance over the last 3-4 years, would have been enough reason to sack Mclaren already back then
Indeed, but the problems with the English game go far, far deeper than issues like who we play in midfield. Grass roots football has been neglected for far too long in this country. A lack of investment in stuff like facilities and youth coaches means that those English youngsters who do have ability aren't having their talent properly nurtured and developed.
Often it's the most basic elements of the game that we're lacking notice what happened when Croatia got the ball on Wednesday? They kept possession, passed the ball cleanly and simply, and counter-attacked with precision and organisation. What happened when we got the ball? We moved forward in a disorganised rabble before lumping it up to the big kid up front. It's the kind of tactic you employ when you're 8 and you're playing for the school team. It might work then, but when you're playing a technically sound side in a crucial international qualifier you maybe need to up your game a little...
Folk can witter on about stuff like the number of foreigners currently plying their trade in this country's leagues, and complain that it's hampering English youngsters to the detriment of the national side but that isn't really the cause of the problem, it's merely a symptom. Why are so many foreign kids being given opportunities by our clubs that their English counterparts aren't? I suspect that it's because so very few of our young players have the skills and technique required when compared to the foreign lads. And, as I say, that's because their abilities aren't nurtured properly.
As I've said on a couple of occasions over on the Premier League thread, our whole system and set up needs a monumental rethink, from the bottom to the very top. Luckily though, the FA are onto it...
Barwick wanted O'Neill. He was outvoted by the rest of the board, who buckled under the tabloid pressure at the time to find an English successor to Eriksson.
Blame the rags that you buy and the muppets who care what they print.
Pretty much everytime we qualify for a tournament and get kicked out at the quarter-final stages on penalties, or get fourth place in an Olympic event. In other words, all the bloody time. "Brave" and "heroic" are words I would happily never hear again in relation to England. They reek of defeat.
Yeah...so where and when did he say that?
John Legard made an assumption, but have we heard from Jose himself yet?
Yeah, I heard that one as well, apparently it stems from a column penned by Franz Beckenbauer in Bild. I'm sure the appointment of a German would go down well with the tabloid press...
At this stage, I'm not paying too much heed as to who says they're not interested in the job – some will be true to their word, others won't. Football managers tend to speak with forked tongues where job vacancies are concerned, especially when they've got current employers to keep happy.
England have some fine individual players, but put eleven of them on a pitch together, couple them with a (usually) incompetent manager and hey presto - they turn into a bunch of useless players. Bizarre. You'd have thought that after all these managers, England and their supporters would realise that maybe it's the quality of the players, not just who they choose as manager.
One upside, however - no stupid little flags stuck on people's cars during Euro 2008.
One upside, however - no stupid little flags stuck on people's cars during Euro 2008.
Meanwhile, the real reason England lost has been revealed.
Was it our inability to keep possession? The wrong formation? Players not trying hard enough? Nope none of those reasons.
No, it's all down to the guy who sang the national anthems, apparently.
Traitor.
I definitely had a very good laugh this morning
Fact of the matter is, as many people as you want can say 'The manager is only part of the problem' when Steve McLaren was appointed everyone knew he wasn't up to the job. Everyone said it wouldn't last, and low and behold, it hasn't.
If the manager is only part of the problem, how, when Alan Curbishly resigned from his Charlton post after 15 years did they get relegated the following season. Same players... He may only be part but he's a hell of a large part.
As for McLaren, he basically didn't have the bottle. Everyone in the free world can see that in a straight 4-4-2 formation Fat Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard can not play in the middle together, they just can't. HE only picked Gareth Barry because he had to. Then when we we're 2 down to Croatia at half time who came off? Lampard (Who I don't think touched the ****ing ball in either half)? No. Barry. Hasn't got the balls.
I do agree with the whole 'Great players can just play together.' I mean look at Rooney-Tevez, everyone said that can't work... But my oh my it has. However, in this instance it doesn't.
Markleshark for England! I'd get em ****ing sorted. They certainly wouldn't be getting paid to play for England anyway.
If the manager is only part of the problem, how, when Alan Curbishly resigned from his Charlton post after 15 years did they get relegated the following season. Same players...
He may only be part but he's a hell of a large part.As for McLaren, he basically didn't have the bottle. Everyone in the free world can see that in a straight 4-4-2 formation Fat Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard can not play in the middle together, they just can't. HE only picked Gareth Barry because he had to. Then when we we're 2 down to Croatia at half time who came off? Lampard (Who I don't think touched the ****ing ball in either half)? No. Barry. Hasn't got the balls.
I do agree with the whole 'Great players can just play together.' I mean look at Rooney-Tevez, everyone said that can't work... But my oh my it has. However, in this instance it doesn't.
Markleshark for England! I'd get em ****ing sorted. They certainly wouldn't be getting paid to play for England anyway.
Fact of the matter is, as many people as you want can say 'The manager is only part of the problem' when Steve McLaren was appointed everyone knew he wasn't up to the job. Everyone said it wouldn't last, and low and behold, it hasn't.
If the manager is only part of the problem, how, when Alan Curbishly resigned from his Charlton post after 15 years did they get relegated the following season. Same players...
As for McLaren, he basically didn't have the bottle. Everyone in the free world can see that in a straight 4-4-2 formation Fat Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard can not play in the middle together, they just can't. HE only picked Gareth Barry because he had to. Then when we we're 2 down to Croatia at half time who came off? Lampard (Who I don't think touched the ****ing ball in either half)? No. Barry. Hasn't got the balls.
I do agree with the whole 'Great players can just play together.' I mean look at Rooney-Tevez, everyone said that can't work... But my oh my it has. However, in this instance it doesn't.
Markleshark for England! I'd get em ****ing sorted. They certainly wouldn't be getting paid to play for England anyway.
Some excellent points... However, you did miss Lampard touching the ball. yup he scored the penalty!!! But saying that, I was ***ting myself when I saw it was him getting ready to take it.
Fair point, did forget about that.
I thought it must be Gerrard, but he scored, so I can't hold that against him.
I don't think the FA would consider approaching him after the way he messed them about last time, to be honest. Anyway, he's reckoned to be a Forest fan we can do better than that.
I'm not sure Jose would want the job, but England could hardly ask for a more talented or successful coach.
you want one of these 3 guys:
Gus Hiddink
Bora Milutinovic
Marcello Lippi
clear overachievers at the national levels.
oh, and a british national team.
Gus Hiddink
Bora Milutinovic
Marcello Lippi
clear overachievers at the national levels.
oh, and a british national team.