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Because this thread is about RAM...

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned on this forum yet, but there is some speculation that the upcoming iPad could have 4 GB of RAM.

There are two ELPIDA dram chips next to the A8x and with some
imagination we might read the (very blurry) part number right below
the ELPIDA logo as "FA164A..." which would make them 16Gb LPDDR3
parts each with a 2x32 bit databus.

That would make a decent 4GB dram in total with a wide 128 bit bus.
The second chip appears to be below and to the left of the A8X in the picture in the AnandTech thread. I didn't even notice it until I looked closely.
 
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned on this forum yet, but there is some speculation that the upcoming iPad could have 4 GB of RAM.

The second chip appears to be below and to the left of the A8X in the picture in the thread. I didn't even notice it until I looked closely.

Maybe for the iPad Pro? I don't see them jumping from a 'too low' 1GB to 'overkill' 4GB.
 
It looks like a reasonable conclusion from the picture but I agree that it might seem a bit high. I think 4 GB could make sense if split-screen multitasking is being introduced with the iPad Air 2, so the RAM amount would be doubled from a hypothetical 2 GB iPad Air with no split-screen.

As for the iPad mini, it could go to 2 GB, which may be related to the following possibilities:
  • The iPad mini would have the same density RAM chip as the iPad Air, assuming the former uses the A8 chip
  • Apple has decided that 2 GB is the minimum RAM required for the split-screen feature
 
Wow....do you have to wait 3 seconds for it to refresh? Boo hoo.....what an age we live in. :rolleyes:



I'm sticking with my air unless it halves in weight....that's the only thing that may convince me to upgrade.....frankly they can put in 8GB Ram in for all i care, if it weighs the same I'm sticking!


3 seconds to refresh followed by 5-10 minutes filling in the form that has just discarded all my data.
 
3 seconds to refresh followed by 5-10 minutes filling in the form that has just discarded all my data.

But Cperchard doesn't care about that so we are the ones complaining :rolleyes:

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It looks like a reasonable conclusion from the picture but I agree that it might seem a bit high. I think 4 GB could make sense if split-screen multitasking is being introduced with the iPad Air 2, so the RAM amount would be doubled from a hypothetical 2 GB iPad Air with no split-screen.

As for the iPad mini, it could go to 2 GB, which may be related to the following possibilities:
  • The iPad mini would have the same density RAM chip as the iPad Air, assuming the former uses the A8 chip
  • Apple has decided that 2 GB is the minimum RAM required for the split-screen feature

While I feel that it too far fetched, I really would love to be proved wrong :D
 
But Cperchard doesn't care about that so we are the ones complaining :rolleyes:

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While I feel that it too far fetched, I really would love to be proved wrong :D

As I said.....if you were doing something THAT important, I wouldn't be using an iPad anyway.....use a proper computer!

Besides.....I've got 5 tabs loaded up......once they are all loaded, they seem to stay loaded for me.....until I close safari completely.....so I really don't understand everyones problem!
 
You even then have the Solid State memory, 16GB, 32GB 64GB, 128GB to which most apps will be carrying out their in memory paging, this requires good quality coding to ensure that this takes place and is a mix of the iOS and also the apps coding itself.

Great response, I haven't run into a response like this before. So kudos.

I now am waiting for the counter response indicating that RAM after all the process of elimination is the real issue. Any takers?

A rudimentary web search couldn't find a source, but I remember reading that iOS does not allow virtual memory to address the SSD. No paging to the non volatile storage. To the non technical people, this is the reason why an old 512 MB computer(laptop or desktop) does not need to reload tabs but a 1 GB iOS device does. Assuming what I remember is true (no paging to the SSD), a bump in RAM should help the reload issue.

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And to the OP, if the IPA2 doesn't have 2 GB of ram...PASS!
 
Wow....do you have to wait 3 seconds for it to refresh? Boo hoo.....what an age we live in. :rolleyes:

I'm sticking with my air unless it halves in weight....that's the only thing that may convince me to upgrade.....frankly they can put in 8GB Ram in for all i care, if it weighs the same I'm sticking!

It's 1st World PROBLEMS, man. My cellphone charger is downstairs and I'm too tired to get it, I'm at 1% on my phone, whatever shall I do.

But, yeah, if there's no 1 gb of ram i'm buying an older model or a samsung
 
Whose in....no 2 GB RAM, no iPad

As I said.....if you were doing something THAT important, I wouldn't be using an iPad anyway.....use a proper computer!

Besides.....I've got 5 tabs loaded up......once they are all loaded, they seem to stay loaded for me.....until I close safari completely.....so I really don't understand everyones problem!


I've switched between safari and other apps ie notes/mail and Safari has refreshed tabs when I come back.

Personally I'd be happy for Apple to address that problem without increasing RAM if they can come up with an alternative solution.

The iPad is a computer so I'm not sure what the first part of your comment is supposed to mean.
 
I took a chance on the Lynx because a refurb was deeply discounted (~$200) and had killer specs. No complaints. I've heard lots of good things about S2, but I think the Lynx will fill my needs for at least two more years.

Certainly. I guess I was kind of second-tier replying to the Surface comment. Enjoy your Lynx!
 
i just gave my current mini to my mom, and in turn she made a truck payment for me. $175. I now have money to buy a new iPad. 2gb of ram will make me consider a retina iPad mini 1st gen instead of a new one. apple is getting my money either way.
 
I still don't get what critically important "forms" people could possibly be filling out on their iPads? Forms so important (mind you) that they couldn't possibly just dedicate one tab (because that would work flawlessly), they need to have 6 different "forms" open and be playing music, watching video, and playing games (all while filling out multiple critically important forms). It's kinda silly when you think about it.

And ask them to demonstrate a RAM related issue?

"well, it's, um... intermittent, ya, but if you don't think it's real... ohhh boy!"

So I renew my challenge: Show me how to demonstrate a RAM related issue.

It'd be great if it didn't involve filling out 8 forms at once while playing Bioshock in the rain, but hey, I can't even get mine to falter then, so go for it!

:cool:
 
Knowing Apple's pattern, I am pessimistic that this year iPad can have 2GB RAM. But there are rumors which say that it could possibly be featured with 2 GB ram, there's even pictures of it.

Gonna keep the mindset of 2GB ram as a pleasant bonus.
 
Knowing Apple's pattern, I am pessimistic that this year iPad can have 2GB RAM. But there are rumors which say that it could possibly be featured with 2 GB ram, there's even pictures of it.

Gonna keep the mindset of 2GB ram as a pleasant bonus.

I agree. If they do announce 2GB of RAM I will be pleasantly surprised, but I won't be shocked if they keep 1GB.

I will not buy an iPad with only 1GB of RAM with a 64-bit processor.
 
RAM should NEVER be a consideration when buying a new iOS device. I'm happy with whatever Apple determines to be the perfect amount to ensure long battery life and ultimate performance. So I'll be buying iPad Air 2 whether it has 1GB or 2GB.

Apple loves you.

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I just think it's Safari not lack of RAM. When I run Chrome on iOS there's no problem.

The only issue I have with that (which sounds plausible) is why Apple hasn't addressed it from iOS 7 through iOS 8.0.2
 
I still don't get what critically important "forms" people could possibly be filling out on their iPads? Forms so important (mind you) that they couldn't possibly just dedicate one tab (because that would work flawlessly), they need to have 6 different "forms" open and be playing music, watching video, and playing games (all while filling out multiple critically important forms). It's kinda silly when you think about it.

And ask them to demonstrate a RAM related issue?

"well, it's, um... intermittent, ya, but if you don't think it's real... ohhh boy!"

So I renew my challenge: Show me how to demonstrate a RAM related issue.

It'd be great if it didn't involve filling out 8 forms at once while playing Bioshock in the rain, but hey, I can't even get mine to falter then, so go for it!

:cool:

Here are two examples. I had a nice little synopsis of each written up, but I didn't follow my own advice of copying my post text out to the notes app, and the Safari app reloaded the page and I lost my long narrative. The user in the videos has only two tabs open and is only running Safari.
http://youtu.be/d7pEgZ-SIVI
http://youtu.be/dJNS3ucSak4

This is why I won't be buying a new ipad with only 1 gig of RAM. It is a usability issue. I'm glad that it doesn't affect you or the way you use your ipad, but it most certainly does affect others.
 
My iPad 3 runs just as well as it did out of the box - still running iOS 5.1.1. Not upgrading that completely gets run into the ground.
 
Everybody's here asking for 2GB of RAM because of Safari tab crashing/reloading issue right?

What if Apple could somehow fix that issue without increasing the RAM size to 2GB? Is there anything critical that impacts the majority of users regarding RAM size?
 
A rudimentary web search couldn't find a source, but I remember reading that iOS does not allow virtual memory to address the SSD. No paging to the non volatile storage. To the non technical people, this is the reason why an old 512 MB computer(laptop or desktop) does not need to reload tabs but a 1 GB iOS device does. Assuming what I remember is true (no paging to the SSD), a bump in RAM should help the reload issue.
iOS does lacks part of the paging ability, but read-only, storage-mapped memory can be pageable as usual. The problem with Safari in iOS (as it seems) is that it holds the content only in the memory, except history & web local storage, but never the non-volatile memory. I guess pretty much all the mobile browsers do this, as you wouldn't want to wear out the NVM.
 
Everybody's here asking for 2GB of RAM because of Safari tab crashing/reloading issue right?

What if Apple could somehow fix that issue without increasing the RAM size to 2GB? Is there anything critical that impacts the majority of users regarding RAM size?

I think time has proved that Apple can't fix the 1GB reloading issue for the iPad Air. If so, they probably would've released a patch by now.
 
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