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Own the game? Apple or iPhone or both?? Doubt it both ways.

And yes, it is catchup. Years late. SJ was great, but I expect his decree that 3.5 was optimal was a mistake. It isnt optimal, as smartphones do much more now than before, 3.5 is too small. 4" is too small especially as its just a stretched one way 3.5" The larger sizes will bring many back from Android. On various threads so often posters state they had no choice to shift the phone to Android due to screen size. My only concern is will tghese larger screens have weird, thin profiles?

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Its gigantic compared to a 3.5. But there is a range of sizes that for 90% of users, that will become clear, probably 4.4 to 5.4. Some favour portability so will put with with a small screen for reading, video, etc. Others will favour bigger screen and put up with less portability.

No one is right, no one is wrong, bit tiring to read so many "facts" as to what is best, that is incorrect
when a company in any industry can take 90% of the profits in multiple categories they are the game!!!!!(that's why your here on macrumors;))

Millions of people prefer 4" cell phones.
 
when a company in any industry can take 90% of the profits in multiple categories they are the game!!!!!(that's why your here on macrumors;))

Millions of people prefer 4" cell phones.

Ah profits, yes quite correct. In the game on sales, popularity, I dont think so. The market share reflects that, but certainly they get the lions share of profits. Profits dont help my user experience, nor the years to catchup on what are becoming standard sized phones.

The 4" comment is anecdotal, where is the proof?? Your comment infers most?

Millions prefer 4", millions prefer 4.5", millions prefer 5.5" but Apple hes let down everyone excpet the 4" users. Zero choice. Finally that will change, so I am happy enough for the catchup.

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Bookmarked. Let's see if you will stick to your "4" is the perfect size" comment when Apple releases the bigger phone. This is like the - 3.5" is the prefect size because Steve Jobs told me so - moment all over again.

I don't understand why people can be against bigger phones and more choice for the user. Just because Apple releases a larger phone doesn't mean they will stop selling the 4" model. It doesn't have to be that way and it won't be that way. People will be able to choose whatever size they are comfortable with.

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Only I know what sizes suits me, not Steve Jobs, not anyone else. This is why everything we buy has many sizes. TV, car, house, fridge, the list is endless, a phone is no different at all
 
This is just Apple's way of being stupid:eek:
They obviously cannot make a phone that rivals the Samsung or HTC 5 inch and above phones so they tinker and put out one that is .7 inches larger than the 4 inch. Its a so so time at Apple. No new product announcements or at least, far and few between. Everyone's desk must be collecting dust.:(

Obviously they can and they still could. We have yet to here and announcement and it's not even WWDC week yet so let's just wait and see.
 
Obviously they can and they still could. We have yet to here and announcement and it's not even WWDC week yet so let's just wait and see.

Taking a long time, was the Galaxy 1 4.3" Out of touch and out of date. Once the proper screen is out that will be me, I will just let iOS catch up over time
 
Apple needs to have a "new" item every time they come out with another phone. Even if its the same product, but in gold. Its still "new" as an apple product even though other companies have already come out with it.

It'll be the 4.7" for a few years, then a 5" for a few years, then 5.25", THEN the 5.5". They will sell millions of each "new" Iphone, even if its only in gold. And people will buy.

Why would they jump up to 5" this time and not at least milk the 4.7" for a few years? No way do they come out with a 5.5" phone and miss the opportunity to milk all of those subsequent phones up to that point. Its just business. And they are going to sell tons of phones.
 
Apple needs to have a "new" item every time they come out with another phone. Even if its the same product, but in gold. Its still "new" as an apple product even though other companies have already come out with it.

It'll be the 4.7" for a few years, then a 5" for a few years, then 5.25", THEN the 5.5". They will sell millions of each "new" Iphone, even if its only in gold. And people will buy.

Why would they jump up to 5" this time and not at least milk the 4.7" for a few years? No way do they come out with a 5.5" phone and miss the opportunity to milk all of those subsequent phones up to that point. Its just business. And they are going to sell tons of phones.

Yes, as someone said earlier here, they milk it. Thats fine, its good marketing, but how about something tangible for a change? Siri, yep, cool, but gimmicky, not in wide use by many, Touch ID not really a wow factor.

I am about done with annual upgrades, kits juts a phone, its the OS that we actually use. Keep catching up woith iOS and Ill match that to the 4.7 phone
 
So you don't want people to have a choice of a bigger phone because YOU are happy with the current line up of devices? Wow...I am just shaking my head here.

Nobody is taking away your choice of a smaller device. Stop trying to tell other people what they don't need just because you don't need it.

This thread is about a 5" iPhone only. If that were to be the case, then yes, a smaller iPhone IS being taken away.
 
I could not see the 4" going, that would rock those that prefer a 3.5", and rock those that believed Steve J that 3.5 was best for them. Its time for choice for a change. I love Apple but it can make me cynical at times.

Can't use Apple as little choice, can't use Android as too loose and disorganised. So I use Apple and live with it!
 
I could not see the 4" going, that would rock those that prefer a 3.5", and rock those that believed Steve J that 3.5 was best for them. Its time for choice for a change. I love Apple but it can make me cynical at times.

Can't use Apple as little choice, can't use Android as too loose and disorganised. So I use Apple and live with it!

I went Android two weeks ago just because I wanted to experience the HTC One M8. I always liked smaller screens and I also have small hands. Having said that, I prefer using the bigger screen when at home, but on the road I prefer to have a 4" screen..I guess Apple should offer a 4" and a 4,7" phone, with no other differences whatsoever.
You are right about iOS and Android. The latter is disorganized and lacks the polish that iOS have. People here are saying that Apple is always playing catching up to Android, but there are some things where Apple is far away.
In these two weeks I have seen and experienced a lot of these things, and I still haven't made up my mind what my future device will be and if I will get the iPhone 6 when it comes out (very probable..)
In the meantime I enjoy the gorgeous display of the M8, but I also have to deal with its big size when on the road...

An interesting article about Android websites see iOS: http://www.androidauthority.com/apple-advantages-android-372564/
 
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This thread is about a 5" iPhone only. If that were to be the case, then yes, a smaller iPhone IS being taken away.

It most certainly is not. Where did you get that from? "Just" is a synonym for "simply", not "only".
 
Ah profits, yes quite correct. In the game on sales, popularity, I dont think so. The market share reflects that, but certainly they get the lions share of profits. Profits dont help my user experience, nor the years to catchup on what are becoming standard sized phones.

The 4" comment is anecdotal, where is the proof?? Your comment infers most?

Millions prefer 4", millions prefer 4.5", millions prefer 5.5" but Apple hes let down everyone excpet the 4" users. Zero choice. Finally that will change, so I am happy enough for the catchup.
I don't think the iPhone has suffered in terms of popularity. The 5S sold more units than any of its predecessors so the market is there. It is also the most popular phone I see used daily in the UK so to have a presence like that it must have retained something. Offering choice is something I am supportive of, but there is still a huge market for 4" devices. There is no standard for the size of a phone, and the market is full of choice. Apple haven't needed to play catch up until now because consumers are still buying their products. If you want to label it as 'catch up' that is your prerogative of course but whether it is the truth or up for debate. :)
 
Why 4.7" for the iPhone 6? Why not just do 5" and be done with it?

It most certainly is not. Where did you get that from? "Just" is a synonym for "simply", not "only".


"....and be done with it"


Which suggests no model below 5".
 
If you guys want to have a huge phone use ipad :):D
Iphone 5 is just perfect size, I hate to see huge screen phones, cover all your face and you cannot even hold it right. WFT? And where you plan to stick your huge phone? back pocket? is it even fit there with 6" screen phone?
 
Having used a Moto X, which has a 4.7in screen, I'd undoubtedly say it's the sweet spot. It's much larger than the standard 4/3.5in screen, but you can comfortably use the screen with one hand. In fact, the Moto X itself is about the same size as the iPhone 5S, only being *slightly* larger (The iPhone 5S is 4.87in H, 2.31in W, .30in D; the Moto X is 5.09 in H, 2.57in W, 0.40in D)

I loaded some screenshots from my mom's 5C onto my Moto X and scaled them to take up the entire screen, and the result was actually really really nice. Of course these are unoptimized screenshots, so an optimized iOS for a 4.7in screen would be great.

Apple prides itself on one-handed usage. Anything larger than 4.7 is going to require most people to use 2 hands.
 
Having used a Moto X, which has a 4.7in screen, I'd undoubtedly say it's the sweet spot. It's much larger than the standard 4/3.5in screen, but you can comfortably use the screen with one hand. In fact, the Moto X itself is about the same size as the iPhone 5S, only being *slightly* larger (The iPhone 5S is 4.87in H, 2.31in W, .30in D; the Moto X is 5.09 in H, 2.57in W, 0.40in D)

I loaded some screenshots from my mom's 5C onto my Moto X and scaled them to take up the entire screen, and the result was actually really really nice. Of course these are unoptimized screenshots, so an optimized iOS for a 4.7in screen would be great.

Apple prides itself on one-handed usage. Anything larger than 4.7 is going to require most people to use 2 hands.

I agree. I was pleasantly surprised by how small the Moto X felt even though it had a 4.7" screen. The width is really the big factor here. And thickness. Probably Apple will tout its thinness as a way to illustrate that their big screened device is easier to use than the competition's.
 
"....and be done with it"


Which suggests no model below 5".

Be done with it, as in not do a 4,7" -> 5" upgrade a year later after realizing that everyone else is coming with 5" as the base model.

Well, that is at least how I read it, I'm not OP so I can't speak on his behalf, naturally.
 
Be done with it, as in not do a 4,7" -> 5" upgrade a year later after realizing that everyone else is coming with 5" as the base model.



Well, that is at least how I read it, I'm not OP so I can't speak on his behalf, naturally.


Which still means no model below 5". Lol
 
Apple is not ready to loose the home button, so a 5" iphone will have bigger dimensions than samsung S5, so to make it a non phablet phone they must go with 4.7"
 
I'd be happy with a 4.3. I'd be happiest with a 3.5.

Those days are long gone my friend, soon Apple will remove the 4S out of the picture then the 5, 5C, 5S will be there with a 4" and we will see what the IP6 has. I have no trouble with my eyes, but if you use your phone for personal and work, it is very hard to read email on a 3.5". I struggle with a 4" on my IP5 when co workers around me all have 5.0" or larger and I see them reading email with no problem. I am all for multiple sized screens, gives everyone a shot at what they want. Personally if the IP6 is not at least 4.7" or larger I am moving to another phone with at least a 5.0" screen because I get a lot of work email and I am tired of pinching and Zooming just to read an entire thread.
 
I actually agree with this, but I think Apple is in a tough spot with having to keep the home button around due to Touch ID. I have a 5S and a Galaxy S4 and absolutely love the GS4 screen more (but that's where my list of 'likes' ends...). Because android doesn't require a huge circular home button they can fit a larger screen in a chassis similar in size to an iPhone. I mean, when you stack a 5S in top of a GS4 it's shocking that the GS4 really isn't that much of a larger phone. All these people who claim a 5" phone is too big haven't actually compared the the sizes or ever held a GS4. I'll admit it's not entirely one handed operation friendly but it's not phablet sized like some people act like it is.


They need to get touch id implemented into the screen.
 
Cuz I want my phone to fit in my pocket!

The irony being the 4.7" mock-ups of the iPhone 6 are bigger than many android phones with 5" screens, and is about the same size as the S5 which has a 5.1" screen.

iphone6mockupgalaxys52.jpg
 
"....and be done with it"


Which suggests no model below 5".
You are the only person in this thread that seems to have read it that way. Sorry, but you are in the minority. Did you even read the rest of the thread where I said that Apple will continue to sell the smaller 4" iPhone?
 
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