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Why don't you carry around an iMac and an uninterruptible power source?

After all, portability doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
Well, because a small portable USB drive is available, and I usually do have one nearby. They don't need to be plugged into a wall either.



So if Apple introduced a MacBook Pro with 30GB SSD, you buy it.

After all, you can delete files.
No. Because Apple offers increased storage options. I'd buy one of the increased storage options. You could do the same.
 
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Well, because a small portable USB drive is available, and I usually do have one nearby. They don't need to be plugged into a wall either.

I am sure you enjoy the excruciatingly slow read and write speed that flash drives have.

No. Because Apple offers increased storage options. I'd buy one of the increased storage options. You could do the same.

Why does that matter? After all, you can delete you files, right?
 
You should probably move to a different platform. Apple's been on this road for close to 4 years now, and at this point, it's kind of silly to see somebody complaining about it.

You do have other choices, you know. Why get all worked up about something now, when it's been the norm for almost 4 years? It's kind of baffling to me why people get so upset about this. Do you enjoy the stress? Do you enjoy just having something to complain about? If so, then great ... Knock yourself out, but if it were me, I'd simply choose a different platform. Life's too short for this sort of crap.
 
I am sure you enjoy the excruciatingly slow read and write speed that flash drives have.
It's an actual HDD, but good try.



Why does that matter? After all, you can delete you files, right?
Because getting a higher storage tier means I don't have to manage files as much. Also, I typically have many large files on my Mac, so I would want to be able to keep the contained while maintaining portability, rather than needing to be tethered to a drive. You could do the same thing. Just upgrade to a higher amount of storage.
 
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Many people here have been shackled for so long that they forget what freedom feels like. Freedom to install your own SSD. Freedom to install your own RAM. Freedom to install your own battery.

It's an actual HDD, but good try.
Oh, even worse.

Because getting a higher storage tier means I don't have to manage files as much. Also, I typically have many large files on my Mac, so I would want to be able to keep the contained while maintaining portability, rather than needing to be tethered to a drive. You could do the same thing. Just upgrade to a higher amount of storage.
Oh!!! So there are legitimate reasons to have bigger internal SSDs after all!!!

I thought you were going to put most of your files on external hard drives!!!
 
Actually ...

Freedom feels like being able to walk down the street and not fearing having a bag put over my head, being yanked into a vehicle, and whisked away to an internment camp somewhere, simply because I look different.

Freedom feels like being able to express my opinions in public without fear of having the authorities knock down my door and arrest me on the sole basis of expressing those views.

That's freedom.

Freedom is having the choice to go out and buy a Dell, Lenovo, or HP system and putting whatever aftermarket RAM or local storage device one wants in it, but that's a pretty first-worldy view of freedom. Oh, to suffer the ills of the woe-begotten Apple user. Life is so harsh and demanding. Whatever will I do?
 
Oh, even worse.
Actually the Read/write is much better than a USB flash drive. So.....


Oh!!! So there are legitimate reasons to have bigger internal SSDs after all!!!

I thought you were going to put most of your files on external hard drives!!!
No one said there weren't any reasons for a bigger SSD. What I said was: your claim that you have no other option but to buy a new computer if you fill up your SSD is nonsense. And so it remains.
 
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Many people here have been shackled for so long that they forget what freedom feels like. Freedom to install your own SSD. Freedom to install your own RAM. Freedom to install your own battery.


Oh, even worse.


Oh!!! So there are legitimate reasons to have bigger internal SSDs after all!!!

I thought you were going to put most of your files on external hard drives!!!


Dude, nobody forces you to buy Apple products. Everyone choice what they like and if I want a non-removable SSD it's not your problem. Calm your Shift-Key
 
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No one said there weren't any reasons for a bigger SSD. What I said was: your claim that you have no other option but to buy a new computer if you fill up your SSD is nonsense. And so it remains.
So what's the point of having a thin and light Retina MacBook Pro if I am going to gave to carry around a thick and heavy external hard drive along with it?

It's even more dumbfounded that the SSD cannot be upgrade even though it is removable because the parts are not available for general purchase.
 
Why buy it in the first place?
Because I was able to afford to buy a MBP with 16GB RAM and it had the 512GB SSD.

It's still all overkill for me but I didn't want to settle for the smaller SSD and a smaller screen.

IN fact, I could easily do with a desktop because my MBP never leaves the house or even the room I keep it in but I like MBPs.
 
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So what's the point of having a thin and light Retina MacBook Pro if I am going to gave to carry around a thick and heavy external hard drive along with it?
You don't have to carry one.

It's even more dumbfounded that the SSD cannot be upgrade even though it is removable because the parts are not available for general purchase.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ssd/owc/macbook-pro-retina-display/2013

What's this then?


Also, if you need more than 256GB of storage, buy a bigger SSD when you buy your Macbook. This really isn't that hard of a concept.
 
Oh, I am suppose to get a whole new computer when my 256GB SSD is full. Brilliant! /s

If you really need greater on-board storage than 256GB you don't buy the 256GB version to start with, although it's worth pointing out that SSD upgrade kits are starting to appear. But two-hundred-and-fifty-six thousand million is really a lot of bytes even if we are all blasé about storage capacities these days, and given the available options of external/network drives and extremely reliable cloud services I really think that the 256GB SSD in my rMBP will suffice me for the foreseeable future. Of course the SSD could die, but I figure that's better than me dying and I'm sure I'll cope with the situation.

At the end of the day you pays your money and you takes your choice, and when that choice is made you live with it. Don't worry, be happy, enjoy the wonderful technology available to us and be grateful you live in this age.
 
This is going this way: The ashtray of my car is full...oh! I need to replace my Mercedes

Some would say oh! Who smokes in the car :mad: ?
 
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Personally, I'm less troubled by this development in Apple's product line than the fact that they are shipping computers with lower and lower specs. I used to have a 2011 base model iMac. That system's CPU is faster than the CPU in the current base model iMac being shipped 5 years later...

This is nonsense. I looked it up. You don't specify exact computers, so I'll speculate what models you are talking about. Everymac says the base 27" 2011 iMac contained a i5-2500S processor. The latest 27" iMac contains a i5-6500 processor. I looked on the site cpu-world.com and asked it to compare the processors. Single thread: the newer iMac is 13% faster. Multi-thread the new iMac is 41% faster. The integrated graphics in the chip is listed as 83% faster with an overall score of 50% faster for the newer processor. (This is comparing just the processors)

I hope you aren't comparing clock rates. Comparing clock rates is useless when comparing processors from different generations. And there's at least 2 generations difference between the processors.
 
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Actually with SSDs they slow down when you get them close to full
You mean HDDs!?
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Well, because a small portable USB drive is available, and I usually do have one nearby. They don't need to be plugged into a wall either...
...and if he needs fast, additional SSD storage, he can buy one SSD with the TRIM compatible Thunderbolt interface.
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So what's the point of having a thin and light Retina MacBook Pro if I am going to gave to carry around a thick and heavy external hard drive along with it?...
First you said external drives are slow. They are not slow, if you buy modern enclosures and drives (Thunderbolt, Thunderbolt 2 or USB 3.0 with UASP support). Now you say that external hard drives are "thick and heavy". Thats not true, if you buy modern hardware.

And btw, you can buy rMBP compatible PCIe SSDs via ebay.
 
This is nothing new Apples been doing this for years, this is why they are sitting on 200+ billion in cash reserves. But we keep buying their products so they keep doing it. Simple economics apply here
 
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If you really need greater on-board storage than 256GB you don't buy the 256GB version to start with, although it's worth pointing out that SSD upgrade kits are starting to appear. But two-hundred-and-fifty-six thousand million is really a lot of bytes even if we are all blasé about storage capacities these days, and given the available options of external/network drives and extremely reliable cloud services I really think that the 256GB SSD in my rMBP will suffice me for the foreseeable future. Of course the SSD could die, but I figure that's better than me dying and I'm sure I'll cope with the situation.

I am aware of those SSDs by OWC. The issue is that those are not really proper replacements.

The original SSD is a PCI-Express 3.0 X4.

The OWC SSD is a hacked job of two SATA SSDs in a RAID. It doesn't support S.M.A.R.T., TRIM, Boot Camp, etc.

Also, if you need more than 256GB of storage, buy a bigger SSD when you buy your Macbook. This really isn't that hard of a concept.

At the end of the day you pays your money and you takes your choice, and when that choice is made you live with it. Don't worry, be happy, enjoy the wonderful technology available to us and be grateful you live in this age.

And exactly why do I need to "make my choice and live with it"?

Why shouldn't I pay for the upgrade when I need it?
 
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You can't replace the processor either. Back in the day we could do that on some laptops too. Things change though. So the smart choice is to plan for what you need and then some. Whether that's processing power, RAM, or storage. Cloud storage, NAS, and fast wifi are cheap. They will only be getting cheaper.
 
All of these ridiculous threads about this stuff. Fist, some of you need to educate yourselves as to the why's of what Apple has done with the soldering. Last, the answer is always the same, obvious answer; If you don't like what Apple has done, go buy a damn PC.

You will have your pros and cons with each. The main issue seems to be that it sucks for you that you can't afford to buy the power you desire NOW, but instead wish to upgrade LATER. I sympathize with that but the lack of green backs in your billfold is hardly a good argument agains the decisions Apple has taken.

So buy a PC and forfeit some of the things that a Mac has over it. You can also save a little, but used or refurb, and have a Mac for the reasons you've decided to buy one.

It isn't complicated...
 
I doubt it. It will be one year in May that I bought my $2499 16GB MBP and I don't plan on buying Apple Care for it. I've never needed it in the past so why start buying it now just because this is the second most expensive Mac and least upgradeable Mac I've ever owned?

Well, yeah. It's insurance. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I would not buy Applecare for a $1200 Macbook Pro, but $2500 and up....yep. One LCD failure, or a failure of some type on the system board means it may very well go to eBay as a parts machine. If you are comfortable with just the one year warranty on a $2500 mobile device, then great. My point was they will sell a ton of Applecare for a expensive machine when very few components are inexpensive to replace. I'd imagine they have a very high attachment rate of Applecare based on that.
 
Because I was able to afford to buy a MBP with 16GB RAM and it had the 512GB SSD.

It's still all overkill for me but I didn't want to settle for the smaller SSD and a smaller screen.

IN fact, I could easily do with a desktop because my MBP never leaves the house or even the room I keep it in but I like MBPs.

You could have gotten the base model without dedicated graphics
 
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