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Why aren't people considering the Tcolor L32660
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pommac
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I was born in the late 1960s and served in the Finnish army in the late 1980s, where I fired an APILAS anti-tank rocket launcher that produced around 189 dB of noise😎 Even so, I can still clearly hear this high-pitched sound.
Ask the Tcolor representative directly about the shipping, I got quoted a better deal that way.
pommac
macrumors newbie
I bought my monitor from this link
You can contact the seller through the “Chat Now” button.
The monitor is already on its way back. In general it looks much better than anything Acer or LG have offered, but not quite as polished as the Kuycon G32P. The stand was a little loose in how it locks in position in landscape mode ... just a tap would tilt it by 5 degrees, and I don't know that the tension can be adjusted. Glass was clear, panel was good. For the price it's a decent option if they're able to figure out the whining issue.
You could simply keep the monitor at max brightness which isn't all that bright to begin with and that would eliminate the whine.
I suppose another option would be to contact TCOIOR and ask them about the issue since it's been documented a few times. If it's something that they're trying to resolve and are able to then it would be worth a try. I might even give it a go again in the future if they're able to resolve it.
Tbh the lack of solid brightness when set to Max is just as much of a deal breaker for me…was hoping to set this side by side with my XDR but I think that would be a huge disappointment
EugW
macrumors P6
No, that would be terrible.
I calibrated my LG 6K for Display P3 at 120 nits, although during the day I sometimes increase the brightness a bit.
Adobe's white paper says a reference monitor for Adobe RGB should be calibrated at 160 nits.
Why would it be terrible?
I currently have a Alogic Clarity 27 and it's max brightness is 400nits. It's perfectly fine. Not too bright and not too dark. I actually have it above my M1 Macbook Pro (that I usually keep at max brightness) and it seems to work well together.
EugW
macrumors P6
That's unusual, unless you're next to a window during the day or something. Also, did you actually calibrate your monitors?
Convention for monitor calibration for SDR mode is generally 80-120 nits in a dimly lit room.
You still didn't explain how it would be terrible.
I believe the Alogic Clarity is factory calibrated. 400nits isn't crazy bright, but also isn't dark. It's a good medium IMO.
My desk is slightly in the center of the room with a wall behind me, but a window maybe 1.5ft away to the right of me. No issues over here.
EugW
macrumors P6
Most monitors are factory calibrated. They may or may not be accurately calibrated though, and usually aren't calibrated for your workspace. Ideally the workspace would be somewhat dimly lit, and 350-400 nits is far, far too bright in that context. If it's a bright room all the time, then 350-400 nits might be appropriate though.
However, basically you're advocating buying a monitor with a known issue and running it without one of the most basic adjustments - brightness - to get around the known issue, at a brightness level that is inappropriate for most work spaces. That makes zero sense.
Where do you work where your workspace is dimly light? Most commercial office spaces are lit by large florescent or LED lights, therefore the context you described is nonsense.
Personally, I currently WFH. My office space is lit by natural sunlight. I have 2 windows with the blinds covered and 400 nits is moderately bright.
Speak for yourself, I'm not advocating for anything yet providing an alternative. I said he could run the monitor at max brightness (400 nits) to avoid the whine which is decent brightness even in commercial office spaces.
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EugW
macrumors P6
You've already ignored the white paper I provided for you, and the info I provided in my other posts, and you're suggesting forgoing one of the most basic adjustments of a monitor, that being monitor brightness. I don't know what else to say.
Your original reply did not include that white paper, so it was overlooked until I saw your next reply.
However, you did see my reply regarding "dimly light" workspaces and don't have anything to say regarding it because it's simply nonsense. Which voids most of your point.
Even with you including a 20-page PDF, we are talking about real world usage. 400 nits isn't as bright as you think it is by any means. Most monitors are factory calibrated and even if that's not the case most people aren't using calibration tools to calibrate their monitor.
You could just simply say the monitor doesn't meet your needs and call it a day.
EugW
macrumors P6
Since it seems you need someone to spell it out for you: Very few people out there would think that a monitor that can't be adjusted for brightness levels is a good buy. @just!ns did the smart thing in his situation and returned the unit.
We don't know what proportion of the units have this issue, or what proportion of people can actually hear the whine, but it would be foolish for someone who can hear the whine to keep the monitor knowing s/he'll never be able to adjust the brightness if s/he wants to avoid that whine. The smart move would be to get the refund while they still can, and buy something else like the Asus, or in my case, the LG. (I paid just over US$1500 for the LG before tax, although that sale price is no longer available.)
My experience:
Logistics
My L32660 arrived 18th Feb (order date 9th Feb) with Alibaba Logistics. UPS took over on 13th and delivered to my address in UK.
The shipment was DAP, and UPS charged me the government fees and hefty ~£18. The fees were calculated wrongly, so I'll need to talk to Customs to recover about ~£100.
The display.
Looks good overall.
The border a bit chunky: top/left/right: 10mm, bottom:18mm
Coil whine: around settings 41 and 83 though just few selections.
Picture: no dead pixels, good colour uniformity, vignetting left and right - within normal range, visible bleed at the very top at several points - the only indication that this is a B-class panel.
HDR mode - looks really washed out.
SDR mode - can go really bright, HDR videos look surprisingly good.
Antireflective coating - non-existent. Use light theme.
Works with MAC and PC over USB-C, no KVM.
Stand: swivels 360. Though it requires a little care and tilting to do so.
Logistics
My L32660 arrived 18th Feb (order date 9th Feb) with Alibaba Logistics. UPS took over on 13th and delivered to my address in UK.
The shipment was DAP, and UPS charged me the government fees and hefty ~£18. The fees were calculated wrongly, so I'll need to talk to Customs to recover about ~£100.
The display.
Looks good overall.
The border a bit chunky: top/left/right: 10mm, bottom:18mm
Coil whine: around settings 41 and 83 though just few selections.
Picture: no dead pixels, good colour uniformity, vignetting left and right - within normal range, visible bleed at the very top at several points - the only indication that this is a B-class panel.
HDR mode - looks really washed out.
SDR mode - can go really bright, HDR videos look surprisingly good.
Antireflective coating - non-existent. Use light theme.
Works with MAC and PC over USB-C, no KVM.
Stand: swivels 360. Though it requires a little care and tilting to do so.
Just a heads up on the shipping situation in case anyone is debating on ordering one. I placed an order on 4.2, and the package is not even with UPS yet according to the tracking info. I got quoted 8-12 days shipping time (to Finland) by the company rep, and the shipping was provided directly by them (not alibaba logistics). So the shipping time estimate is quite optimistic, lets wait and see whether the promise of DDP is true or not.
I received a similar 8-12 days shipping quote via UPS, but ended up being around 21 days (and a different carrier was used instead of UPS). Were you dealing with Tcoior's rep. Michael Liu?