The current primary goal of a tablet's evolution should be to have the same functionality as a desktop OS, just touch-based.
After that, it should SUPERCEDE a desktop OS.
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Why can't people just admit the iPad 2 is still just a big iPod Touch?
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After that, it should SUPERCEDE a desktop OS.
Yes, it can. It would just be a SLOW audio workstation and a SLOW movie editing device.
You are LYING to yourself if you can't admit those things are IMPOSSIBLE to do on an iPod Touch.
You mean, a laptop? Why is touch based that big of a deal?
I think the primary goal of a tablet is to double as a time machine. Unfortunately, the tech isn't there, so we have to settle for what's on the market.
Your hopes for a tablet are unrealistic right now. There's no way to create what you want affordably and with any sort of battery life to make it portable.
I am not knocking Apple. Someday, they will replace a laptop with a highly evolved iPad. I am knocking the public for calling the current iPad a true tablet.
The iPad is not "tablet status" yet.
You're ridiculous.
Your thought train
1) The iPad and the iPT use the same OS
2) They both have the same potential raw functionality
3) The iPT does everything the iPad can, just much slower
4) The iPad simply takes that and puts it in a more tablet friendly form, allowing people to use the functionality of the iPT faster and easier than they could on the iPT
5) Therefore, the iPad is not a viable tablet.
You're either a child or you realize how little sense this makes.
Obviously, and if you look at OSX Lion, you can see that Apple's goal, and rightly so, is to make every computer on the planet a touch or motion based one.
You're so stuck on your own agenda and understanding of the principles involved. It's all about UI. If you noticed, the human finger doesn't vary that much in size. Thus the iPod Touch carries a vastly different UI experience from the iPad UI because your eye sight and the physical size of your finger limit what can be fit into the screen. Simply look at the email apps in iPod Touch and the iPad. They are similar but different.
Again, fundamentally there's nothing different from a bath tub and a swimming pool. But since the physical size of the body is the limiting factor, the experience is vastly different because the larger size of the swimming pool allows you to perform so much more with freedom.
You keep asking other people to face "the truth" and admit the pool is just a bathtub. I'll enjoy my swimming pool and bathtub in different ways.
What? That literally makes no sense. If that's your expectation, you will be sorely disappointed with the next iPad as well. The iPad was created for a completely different purpose than a Mac. If it were designed to replace a desktop, apple would have called it a Mac. Some things on a desktop just wouldn't work on a touch interface. Take photoshop, for example. That would be amazingly difficult on a 10" screen, much less a touch device without a stylus. Then consider programming. Programming anything or even writing essays or making spreadsheets would be infinitely more tedious than it already is with faster input with a physical keyboard. The novelty of the touchscreen is wearing off as people are finding its limits.
There is also nothing in Lion that makes it better for a touch or motion device, so I'm not sure where you're getting that.
Yep. Apple developed a product line up that is wildly successful and includes a family of products from a Line up of Music players, to PDA's to smart phones to tablet like devices that all dominate the markets they are in and sell for list prices with lines out the door.
The competition not only can't figure out how to create anything simple, has continued to fail at understanding what people want and thus why they are buying Apples products, yet the answers stair them in the face. All that and yet they still try and build their version of these successful products.
Building products without and understanding of the market in a Niche that they didn't create. WOW! Talk about a rough road.....
Number 4 is not on my thought train at all. You're just putting words in my mouth. I dare you to show me where I said anything close to Number 4 or you are simply a liar.
If your criticism is that the tablet market itself hasn't reached your vision of tablets yet, that's fine.
But if that's not your argument, you need to explain why any other tablet on the market is that much better than the iPad at achieving your tablet utopia.
"the iPad is just a big iPT" is not a valid argument against the tablet status of the iPad. Period.
I have that "highly evolved ipad" laptop replacement. It's a Window tablet PC, so much more advanced and fully functional than the iPad but sucks so much more because of that. If you keep insisting the iPad to replicate the laptop functinalities..well, Microsoft and their licensees will be very happy to take your money right now.
I never said the next iPad would wow me. I expect it to be just like iOS4 but with a filesystem and a notifications panel.
The iPad won't be a tablet until say...iOS 8 or 9.
Boom. Roasted.
I don't get the iOS 8 or 9 bit either. We have zero idea what that will look like. We don't even really know too much about iOS 5. You're ignoring logical arguments and questions and attempting to force your own definition of "tablet" on everyone here.
That's actually right up there with about an un-innovative as a product designer could get. Congrats! Don't go applying for a job in product development. Seriously.
Doing the same old sh-it just a little differently. You must have never heard Henry Ford's famous quote. You know if all he asked of his customers is what they really wanted you know what they would have said? "a faster horse"
Good thing Henry Ford didn't employ your grandfather.
A Windows Tablet PC isn't designed to be used a a true touch tablet, so the only loser is you for buying such a stupid thing.
was the iPad not one of the first tablets?
Tablets need to unseat netbooks first before they try to challenge a real computer like a MBP
Explain why your MBP's OS is in beta form right now adopting elements of iOS.was the iPad not one of the first tablets?
Tablets need to unseat netbooks first before they try to challenge a real computer like a MBP
Face it. Your MBP will be replaced by an iPad Pro some day. Not next year, but probably next decade or two.
A Windows Tablet PC isn't designed to be used a a true touch tablet, so the only loser is you for buying such a stupid thing.
I got mine for free from work
But thanks for your encouraging words.First you talk about iPod Touch, and you go on a tangential route to include file system to reach your conclusion of the iPad not being "a true tablet." That has nothing to do with each other. You cannot pick and choose your own criteria and complain Apple isn't following "Calidude's true tablet ways." Abstraction and restriction put on the file system by Apple has absolutely no bearing on the classification of the ipad as a tablet.
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