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Why did Apple remove design from iOS 7?
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How did Noah build a boat that could hold very animal on earth? That's the real question cause a modern day cruise liner couldn't do it.
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I have read all that self-contradictory mumbo-jumbo. It doesn't make any sense. Like they say to use borderless buttons then they break that rule throughout their own interface. They say whitespace is deference but really it's the opposite since you have to turn down your screen, which makes app content darker. They say you should use depth but then they flatten everything and mostly fail at pulling depth off with animations (it's still a beta though so we'll see if they improve this).
Many of us devs are struggling with these confusing guidelines and how to actually follow them since Apple doesn't even follow them. They say making buttons borderless improves clarity but it actually increases ambiguity in more than a few scenarios. They list goals then recommend things that are counter-productive to those goals. I'm probably saying too much already.
It's just confusing. I hope they revise the guidelines to make sense before the beta ends.
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Bingo. I think you hit the nail on the head.
I would have much preferred for Apple to provide some new vector-based UI elements that could scale with larger sizes, but perhaps that wasn't feasible (I.e., too large a performance hit) with existing hardware.
These are things that can be changed. That is where you are wrong. In fact all of Apple's iOS 7 beta documentation and their public website about it is marked, "Subject to change."
And it's not someone else's work that's being trashed, it's my work that's being trashed. I know other devs who feel the same way. We build our apps for the new look and it's like... Sigh... Why did they do that to my baby? It looks naked and ugly now.
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Yeah they now put the onus on the devs. If we use bitmaps then later we won't be able to whine when the 5" iPhone comes out and our app doesn't scale right. But yeah, vector buttons would be the preferred thing. iOS 7.5
I wonder if their new icons are done that way so as to be vector-based also?
These are things that can be changed. That is where you are wrong. In fact all of Apple's iOS 7 beta documentation and their public website about it is marked, "Subject to change."
And it's not someone else's work that's being trashed, it's my work that's being trashed. I know other devs who feel the same way. We build our apps for the new look and it's like... Sigh... Why did they do that to my baby? It looks naked and ugly now.
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Yeah they now put the onus on the devs. If we use bitmaps then later we won't be able to whine when the 5" iPhone comes out and our app doesn't scale right. But yeah, vector buttons would be the preferred thing. iOS 7.5
I wonder if their new icons are done that way so as to be vector-based also?
No, that's where you are wrong thinking it will change, it wont, iOS 7 beta is final, only performance will improve, deal with it, it will not change, come september/october they might tweak something here and there, but 99% will be the exact same design.
Get over it, asking why in every single post wont make it change, not this year, complaining in MacRumors wont change a thing, even if you complain the Apple developers forums.
I feel completely sorry for people like OP, whining endlessly as to why iOS 7 is flat, why it has no design, well, either you deal with it and try to live a normal life with iOS 7, LOL, or just change to another platform.
I genuinely love iOS 7, so, I will not suffer, I am not complaining about the design, and as long as my favorite apps embrace this new flat look and get it right, perfect, third party apps that like OP refuse to change or don't get the new flat design right, perfect, I won't complain, I will just simply delete that app.
Be happy with iOS 7, nothing you can do right now, maybe iOS8 someone at Apple will here you, but for now, the topic is closed.
I genuinely love iOS 7, so, I will not suffer, I am not complaining about the design, and as long as my favorite apps embrace this new flat look and get it right, perfect, third party apps that like OP refuse to change or don't get the new flat design right, perfect, I won't complain, I will just simply delete that app.
Be happy with iOS 7, nothing you can do right now, maybe iOS8 someone at Apple will here you, but for now, the topic is closed.
If you're so curious, why don't you shoot Jony Ive an email and ask him, because how are any of us supposed to know unless we're Apple's design team? Or maybe you can watch the keynote and the various videos introducing ios 7, they pretty much explain their mission there. As consumers, we are responsible for establishing our own opinions about products that a company produces, and if we like the product, we can use it; and if we don't, then we are not forced to use it. There is absolutely no point in posting on this forum and questioning other users why Apple did what they did, because no one here can know for sure unless they're Jony Ive himself or the design team that was involved.
And sure, you can try and understand Apple's intentions from an unbiased point-of-view, you can try and understand it from a business, financial, functional point of view. But to cry about how bad it looks TO YOU PERSONALLY, and regard the change in design as negative, is just your personal opinion.
Can't be, the old icons could have been done in vector format, in fact vector artwork can be very detailed and realistic.
They are doing it because art/style is now above usability, the persons who favored realistic and attention detail are both gone. Some inside don't like the new direction either, but those that do are higher on the food chain, and they want to make it there own I guess.
I think it will be very interesting to see the average users opinion, nobody knows that answer, but if you think the few people on here complaining is bad, I think it could get worse. A complete change certainly is a risk when they had such high satisfaction from consumers, it kinda baffles me.
YES! thats exactly the feeling I get when people say they like this new design.
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For the first time since iPhone OS 1.0 i cant stand to look at an iPhone screen. Granted its a beta and could change but do we really hold much hope that its gonna change too much?
My own opinion is that if a technophobe wants a phone, i would still recommend an iPhone as theirs nothing easier to use and set up but anyone tech savvy or anyone with an eye for visual detail, get something else. To me, its just fugly.
Me personally, I've taken your advice and gone for a different platform.
I highly doubt iOS 7 will change in design between now and release. Apple doesn't take design criticism. They will fix bugs and speed things up. Then the iPhone 5S will be unveiled with a couple unique features that will be just enough to get people to upgrade.
I am with the people and developers who think iOS 7 is atrocious. Sure, control center is a nice addition but its pretty late, and it's not customizable. The jailbreak tweak NCSettings or Auxo do a much better job at quick toggles. The parallax effect is a gimmick that will become useless in about 20 minutes. AirDrop is nice but of course it's proprietary and works only in Apples world. There is still no way to use third party apps as defaults. There is still no communication between apps. Notifications are still a joke. You still have to hit that stupid little x and then tap clear to clear a notification. Who cares if the x has a nice little roll animation, it's still extra steps. You still can't take actions on notifications.
The biggest thing to me is that it's just downright ugly, and in true Apple fashion you will be stuck with it. It's either convince yourself you like it or switch platforms. I was all for Apple going flat but this is not flat. Googles design is pleasing flat. iOS 7 is some weird mix of flat and glossy; and that translucency is so ugly. It reminds me of Windows Aero. No thank you Apple. I will stick with my jailbroken iPhone 5 and continue to use the FlatIcons theme and keyboard which looks a millions times better.
Here's a question: how long do you see the design of iOS 7 holding up? Honestly, how long until its glass and pastel look becomes dated and looks hideous? Say what you will about Scott Forstall, but the mans designs held up for over 6 years. It was classy and inviting to new users. iOS 7 is no longer that.
I am with the people and developers who think iOS 7 is atrocious. Sure, control center is a nice addition but its pretty late, and it's not customizable. The jailbreak tweak NCSettings or Auxo do a much better job at quick toggles. The parallax effect is a gimmick that will become useless in about 20 minutes. AirDrop is nice but of course it's proprietary and works only in Apples world. There is still no way to use third party apps as defaults. There is still no communication between apps. Notifications are still a joke. You still have to hit that stupid little x and then tap clear to clear a notification. Who cares if the x has a nice little roll animation, it's still extra steps. You still can't take actions on notifications.
The biggest thing to me is that it's just downright ugly, and in true Apple fashion you will be stuck with it. It's either convince yourself you like it or switch platforms. I was all for Apple going flat but this is not flat. Googles design is pleasing flat. iOS 7 is some weird mix of flat and glossy; and that translucency is so ugly. It reminds me of Windows Aero. No thank you Apple. I will stick with my jailbroken iPhone 5 and continue to use the FlatIcons theme and keyboard which looks a millions times better.
Here's a question: how long do you see the design of iOS 7 holding up? Honestly, how long until its glass and pastel look becomes dated and looks hideous? Say what you will about Scott Forstall, but the mans designs held up for over 6 years. It was classy and inviting to new users. iOS 7 is no longer that.
I don't think OP is talking about removing design, but removing 'personality' from the OS.
In iOS6 details like having icons in the notes app look hand drawn, having the bin open and wobble a bit when you deleted something and having brilliant graphics for icons and buttons, gave iOS 6 its personality of slightly fun, slightly professional and very 'homely' experience.
But in iOS7, I'm sure they've put as much detail into designing it as they did with iOS6, but it has no personality as everything is white. Every app has the same icons / interface regardless of what the app does. Every app seems the same, they don't have their own personality. When I saw the icons and the dynamic wallpapers, I was expecting each app to have a unique style to them. The home screen has a personality and so does the animations, like pulling down notification center to bounce on the bottom of your device. But only the messages app has a 'personality', with that fun, quirky message scrolling animation. Each app feels too similar, too generic, with nothing to make it stand out.
If they could bring that fun quirky-ness of the messages app to the rest of the apps, giving them their own feel and 'personality', I think iOS7 will feel more detailed, more personal.
I would like the person who designed the lock screen, home screen, the animation of opening and closing apps, the bounce of CC and NC, the scrolling in messages to help design the rest of the apps.
Don't get me wrong some of iOS7 looks great, but even though some elements look back, it's the personality that's missing from iOS 7, overall.
Even though some apps are exactly the same as they we're in iOS 6, with a new title / bottom bar design and a few redesigned elements (like the App Store). The lack of contrast / subtle gradients / shadows in apps, make them look like a piece of paper with a bunch of text on them.
In iOS6 details like having icons in the notes app look hand drawn, having the bin open and wobble a bit when you deleted something and having brilliant graphics for icons and buttons, gave iOS 6 its personality of slightly fun, slightly professional and very 'homely' experience.
But in iOS7, I'm sure they've put as much detail into designing it as they did with iOS6, but it has no personality as everything is white. Every app has the same icons / interface regardless of what the app does. Every app seems the same, they don't have their own personality. When I saw the icons and the dynamic wallpapers, I was expecting each app to have a unique style to them. The home screen has a personality and so does the animations, like pulling down notification center to bounce on the bottom of your device. But only the messages app has a 'personality', with that fun, quirky message scrolling animation. Each app feels too similar, too generic, with nothing to make it stand out.
If they could bring that fun quirky-ness of the messages app to the rest of the apps, giving them their own feel and 'personality', I think iOS7 will feel more detailed, more personal.
I would like the person who designed the lock screen, home screen, the animation of opening and closing apps, the bounce of CC and NC, the scrolling in messages to help design the rest of the apps.
Don't get me wrong some of iOS7 looks great, but even though some elements look back, it's the personality that's missing from iOS 7, overall.
Even though some apps are exactly the same as they we're in iOS 6, with a new title / bottom bar design and a few redesigned elements (like the App Store). The lack of contrast / subtle gradients / shadows in apps, make them look like a piece of paper with a bunch of text on them.
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By taking baby specimens instead of full-sized adults? I mean, if you're going to transport a pair of elephants, it would be a lot easier to take two little baby ones.
The real question is: If Noah could only take one OS on the Ark, would he have taken iOS 6 or iOS 7?
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Exactly. The whole point of the design of a good UI is to get out of the way and allow you to use the device.
Exactly I used to participate in this site daily when it was filled with intelligent and meaningful content. Now more and more drivel like this gets posted daily.
As I read through this thread on iOS 6, I'm struck by how much white there is on screen. Why would a white tab and nav bar be of any significance?
Thing is, I never felt the UI of iOS 6 got in my way. iOS 7, on the other hand, is like, "Is that text a UI or just the title?" "What does that thin yellow text on white background say?" "What's the temperature now? Where are my glasses so I can read this long sentence in tiny font to figure out the weather?"
This.
And I genuinely like iOS 7, too bad Apple pays attention to all these threads on a rumor site and will definitely change it's OS because of people like the OP...
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And I genuinely like iOS 7, too bad Apple pays attention to all these threads on a rumor site and will definitely change it's OS because of people like the OP...
Right now there is a meeting in cupertino about how to change the os to make macrumor complainers happy. At google headquarters they are dispatching people to the homes of these people to grab their expertise in graphic design and forward thinking......its actually history in the making.
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