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Why did Apple remove design from iOS 7?
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What you are saying tells us that you don't understand the huge difference between design and decoration.
No. It has nothing to do with decoration.
Consider a delete button. A red delete button means business. Under Apple's new guidelines, such things are relics from the past, and developers should forget the color and simply use the word delete on a white background.
So... you do realize that the only way to keep night vision as 'natural' as possible is to make the display on show shades of red?
Glare and certain spatial frequencies (supposedly) can create eye fatigue, but I doubt any mobile phone produce a sufficiently bright or sharp display to do this. Indeed, increasing the brightness will reduce the pupil size, gaining better depth of field and making your lens work less to bring the object into focus. The best way in terms of the physiology of most people (with the possible exception of some people with dyslexia) to display text is black text on a white background. Honestly, I think every visual designer should have to take a course in visual psychophysics and visual physiology. The damage that some visual designers do by discriminating against those with impaired vision borders on being immoral....
In any case, I agree that static pictures of iOS7 aren't flattering, but this is not the final product and the animations look good in theory.
I agree with what Brent and Michael Simmons said on their most recent Identical Cousins podcast - that iOS is now about putting content first and getting design out of the way. One can argue Apple might have gone too far in this direction and will make some changes in the future (like putting boarders around buttons).
But design is such a broad word that has many meanings. Design from an aesthetic standpoint is totally subjective. Someone who liked some of the rich textures and skeuomorphism of iOS 6 and prior probably would look at iOS 7 and think Apple got rid of design. I was never a fan of the iOS 6 look of digital mimicking a real world physical object so for me iOS 7 is a breath of fresh air. Not perfect and still needs work, but going in the right direction. IMO iOS 7 is the beginning of a new direction.
You can hear the answer (all 59 minutes and 21 seconds of it) to your simple question directly from Apple.
iOS Dev Portal > WWDC 2013 Session Videos Now Available > Whats New in iOS User Interface Design
"Join us for an in-depth tour of the stunning and completely re-imagined iOS 7. See how the principles that guided the new design made our apps more useful, simple and beautiful. Learn how you can take advantage of iOS 7 to create a deeper and more engaging user experience."
Bbbbut it's too easy for people to do the logical, intelligent thing, when moaning gets them more attention
So you want apple to follow? They don't do that. If they did macs would run windows and iPhones would use android.
If you are suggesting that Apple is not following others by coming out with the flat UI, you are wrong. Microsoft did it before Apple with Windows Phone and Win8.
Ok microsoft didn't invent flat its a design choice/element. Its like saying someone invented a square or triangle. I love WP8 but it looks nothing like iOS 7 or any other os. If the argument is that you don't like iOS 7 then just say that and move on.
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Have you even used either of them? They both might be loosely described as following flat design but they don't even look remotely alike nor do they work the same way UX-wise. Before you just spit out a bunch of useless rants you copied from somewhere else you should probably pursue a bit more due diligence on a subject before looking dumb on a forum.
Microsoft may not have invented flat UI, but it started using it in its operating systems before Apple did. Apple using flat UI isn't innovating, it's following where others have lead. Sure, Apple's take differs from Microsoft's, but the fundamental decision to go for flat is following a trend established by others.
And for the record, I don't like Microsoft's version of flat UI either. But I'm not ruling out that somebody could make a flat UI that I like. I just haven't seen one yet.
What part of flat do you need me to clarify?
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Yes, I've used them, and no, I'm not claiming they are alike in every way, but just saying that flat is a trend, and Apple is following a trend.
Seems to me the code word for "I don't like iOS 7" is "flat". But no where does Apple ever use that term to describe it. Yes iOS 7 has removed a lot of the chrome and a lot of the skeuomorphism in iOS 6 but I don't think that automatically makes it "flat". What I've seen of iOS 7 seems more life like than anything in Windows 8.
That doesn't make any sense. Thats like saying everyone copied apple by using the rectangular shape in their smartphone design or Picasso copied others by drawing people. Its senseless and baseless.
Flat is a word/adjective and is broad in its definition. All you are doing is trying to say apple copied someone because of a word that is used to describe its design feature. The only think flat on iOS 7 is the icons. The OS is multi-layed but focused on your input not the app or os. The reminder, calendar, notes are plain because it should be about your content not the app. I understand its a problem for people who want to open up the notes app look at yellow paper and go ooooohhhhh pretty then they close and never use it. I would rather open a note and see my own words pop out at me. Yes its my opinion, but at least I can defend it without getting personal or silly.
I have to disagree with you on that. If the icons were the only thing flat, I wouldn't be complaining. But they took away the UI buttons, for example, and replaced them with just text. I don't care that the Note app no longer looks like a note pad -- in fact, I use an app called PlainText where the interface is mostly white. (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...BZ7Iqk06IDHo77GCA&sig2=Ut48XPe4DrRfT5zBkx7XdA) What I do object to with the iOS 7 Notes app is, as I've already said many many times, that yellow UI text on white background is hard to see.
As for getting personal, I don't think I've gotten any more personal than you have. You are saying you like iOS 7, and I am saying I don't. That is all, it's a matter of subjective opinion.
I don't think it's possible to really have this conversation with someone who would say this.
Look at Yahoo's iOS weather app. Look at Windows 8. Look at Facebook. Look at Android.
Then look at Windows XP, Mac OS Tiger, iTunes 1-4, and iOS 6.
It's pretty clear that all of these things can be clearly divided into 2 halves and that one half is the past and one is the future. Can you not see the differences there?
There are certainly things I would have done differenlty in iOS 7, but I at least recognize the need for Apple to change. If you can't even see that need then I don't have any common ground with you to even start a conversation over.
I hope the moderators are able to see the "[DELETE THREAD]" option in admin controls, red or not
This thread is ridiculous. The OP is doing exactly what individuals like Jony Ive are vehemently against - confusing design with ornamentation.
Design is not about fancy colours and textures and other aesthetic features; it is about how something actually works. It's about functionality. Yes, colours and textures are important to functionality in many cases, but the look of the OS is not the endgame; the functionality is.
Saying that iOS 7 lacks design because it's mostly white would be like saying than iPhones and iPads lack design because they're basically just one big screen. That perception is factually incorrect. These aspects of the software and hardware don't demonstrate a lack of design; they are the design! That's the purpose. Simplicity and lack of ornamentation is exactly what Apple strives for.
Now, one can critique iOS 7 and say that certain aspects of it could be better implemented, but to say that it lacks design is patently incorrect and demonstrates a severe misunderstanding of what design actually is.
Design is not about fancy colours and textures and other aesthetic features; it is about how something actually works. It's about functionality. Yes, colours and textures are important to functionality in many cases, but the look of the OS is not the endgame; the functionality is.
Saying that iOS 7 lacks design because it's mostly white would be like saying than iPhones and iPads lack design because they're basically just one big screen. That perception is factually incorrect. These aspects of the software and hardware don't demonstrate a lack of design; they are the design! That's the purpose. Simplicity and lack of ornamentation is exactly what Apple strives for.
Now, one can critique iOS 7 and say that certain aspects of it could be better implemented, but to say that it lacks design is patently incorrect and demonstrates a severe misunderstanding of what design actually is.
It reminds me of when movie characters use the phrase "de-evolving" to explain some nonsense science. Not everything can be reversed linguistically and still make sense.
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