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iPhone XR Why does Apple not make a phone for power users?
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Lol! Someone’s always spying, Chinese or otherwise ,I have nothing to hide anyway.
But I really do wish Apple would throw in a 4500mAh battery into these things, would be perfect.
Yeah a bigger battery would be better, but we all see what happened when companies rush to shove bigger batteries in
Haha! Oh yes! I wanted a Note7 so badly to #RIP
I don’t know how Huawei manages to fit these huge 4200mAh batteries in their phones and still keep them thin, maybe they stole someone’s future tech
Anyway, for now I am fine with my XS Max Battery, I carry a powerbank in my work bag anyway if I do run low, but I hope Apple wake up on the battery size issue.
Sounds like a typical gamer. Most things I depend on my MAX doing from day to day are not CPU intensive.
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Haha! Oh yes! I wanted a Note7 so badly to #RIP
I don’t know how Huawei manages to fit these huge 4200mAh batteries in their phones and still keep them thin, maybe they stole someone’s future tech
Anyway, for now I am fine with my XS Max Battery, I carry a powerbank in my work bag anyway if I do run low, but I hope Apple wake up on the battery size issue.
I would suspect the Taptic Engine, Face ID module, stereo speakers, 120hz touch sensing display, barometer, and curved OLED display eliminating the chin would take up a fair amount of space that could have been dedicated instead to just a larger battery like Huawei did.
But then the iPhone would be missing the hardware components that set it apart from android devices.
Huawei managed to fit a whole Periscope camera that can do 5x Optical Zoom, a module that makes the display act as an earpiece along with that 4200mAh Battery, so it’s not like they had much space to play with either.
All these OEMs have very limited space in their devices, looking at JerryRig on YouTube it’s all matter of engineering and keeping costs down.
Hopefully Apple can find a way. One thing that I do love about the XS Max is the no compromise Stainless Steel, this thing feels bloody expensive, cannot get over that feeling every time I pick it up.
Just bought one of these a few weeks ago. I had purchased the very first version of this with Anker back in the day (years ago) - it has gotten so much smaller since then. Very nice
.I gave away my trusty Anker 10,000 mAh so I figured I better replace it with something. It joins my 20,100 (Anker USB-C), 20,000 (Anker), and 16,000 mAh (Anker ancient) lineup.
The 20,100 keeps my 2017 MBP charged for days and days. The 20,000 mAh is for home charging (our iPads/Phones). The 16,000 mAh I won for free in an Anker Ingress contest in 2014.
Now that summer is here, I can start solar charging these things again. The 3350 is going to be a LOT friendlier to solar charging. I can't wait.
Huawei managed to fit a whole Periscope camera that can do 5x Optical Zoom, a module that makes the display act as an earpiece along with that 4200mAh Battery, so it’s not like they had much space to play with either.
All these OEMs have very limited space in their devices, looking at JerryRig on YouTube it’s all matter of engineering and keeping costs down.
Hopefully Apple can find a way. One thing that I do love about the XS Max is the no compromise Stainless Steel, this thing feels bloody expensive, cannot get over that feeling every time I pick it up.
Limited space is correct.
But I wouldn’t give up any of those components just for an occasional use periscope lens and a bigger battery. Honestly would prefer a thinner Xs Max with a smaller battery, but to each their own.
If you think the black Xs Max “feels bloody expensive” it’s a good thing you didn’t go for the gold.
It'll never happen. Android phones need bigger batteries due to the inefficient nature of the os. Apple is obviously happy with what they are doing. I saw a TV ad the other day bragging about the XR having the best battery life on any iPhone.
Hey that looks like my Xs Max . I'll end the first day >85% (usually in the 90s).
Screen On is usually around 2 hours --- screen off is usually 4.5 hours. (On the Battery screen). (Guesstimating) based on today's usage.
. I'll end the first day >85% (usually in the 90s).Screen On is usually around 2 hours --- screen off is usually 4.5 hours. (On the Battery screen). (Guesstimating) based on today's usage.
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It might depend on the phone. I personally have used Android phones since 2009. I started using iPhone this year February (company phone, not my choice).
I have noticed in the past issues with lagging in Android but it was related to Samsung phones which IMO in the past did have issues with this due to the customization they have on top of stock Android. I cannot tell you right now if this is still the case or not.
I have used Sony phones for the last 5 years. Sony's customization of Android is rather minimal and honestly it is more about optimization than anything else. I experience no lagging, no issues with RAM or apps reloading, quite stable battery life (2/3 days). The current Sony phone I have is a 2017 model from September. The iPhone is I have is 2017 model from October. The Sony phone was bought last year April. The iPhone was bought this year February. I can tell you right now that Sony phone is more stable. Both phones do not experience lagging, but Sony has better RAM management and I experience minimal apps reloading. Also I experience no bugs on Sony while I experience bugs on the iPhone.
I used the previous Sony phone for 2 and half years before I bought a new one. I had hardware issues developing so I changed it. I had however no software issues at all. It had 2 GB RAM (unlike the new one that has 4 GB RAM) but I still experienced far less apps reloading than on the iPhone.
I mention the apps reloading because I find it annoying. This hinders my user experience and honestly it is unacceptable for me. I would not have bought such phone if it was with my own money.
You need more power but refuse to use a portable charging solution or use a charger, yet that's Apple's fault? Blatant user error here due to stubbornness, sorry.
I always slip my Anker power-bank in my laptop bag so I can charge my phone when needed. It's just being professional as it's my fault if I can't keep my phone going all day.
It’s not user error, it’s simply a user challenging their favorite phone maker to do better as the others are already doing it to, nothing wrong with that.
Hopefully they do that and add bigger batteries going forward, we want to see progression in Battery Life as we get newer devices.
If you can't make it through 8+ hours then you need to do something to mitigate this issue.
The new 2019 phones may have 10% better battery life but people have more and more crap turned on, background services & so on, so any increase is lost with the sheer amount of things people are doing with their devices these days.
Lithium-ion battery tech is ancient. Until a legitimate replacement is available then battery life will forever be an issue. I can't recommend power banks enough. They have been a life saver for many people.
There's a lot here, but a lot of it is true.
However, if "power users have been in the dark since iPhone", doesn't that mean iPhone simply isn't for power users? Is there an android device for power users?
Get a XR with a battery case or move on. Simple as that.
I own Powerbanks as well, but it would be great to get bigger batteries. My Huawei P30 Pro would easily do 1.5 to 2days easily with constant usage e.g. using GPS, Instagram, WhatsApp, a few phone calls and usage of Uber and UberEats. This would mean if I am doing a business trip for the day I could fly out that day at 6am and fly back in at about 7PM that night , get home and still have more than 50% battery.
I have to say though my XS Max seems to be managing almost as well as my Huawei, however with GPS it absolutely trails and obliterates it Battery.
The issue about improving power consumption is an excellent one. I'm disappointed by a lot of the replies here. Of course Apple could do much better with all of their phones, they just need to make it a priority. To argue otherwise is absurd.
I say "power consumption" because there are multiple ways to approach the problem of short battery life. There is potential that hardware and software can be optimized to use less power, thus avoiding the need for larger batteries. I'm sure Apple could do this now but of course the expense would be passed on to the customer.
Basically I agree with the OP's point. Maybe it's unlikely Apple would tweak battery size and perhaps the ultimate size of the phone, or maybe not. But I have to believe Apple could, technically, do it now if they wanted to--and probably keep the fit and finish of the phone identical to what it is now.
I say "power consumption" because there are multiple ways to approach the problem of short battery life. There is potential that hardware and software can be optimized to use less power, thus avoiding the need for larger batteries. I'm sure Apple could do this now but of course the expense would be passed on to the customer.
Basically I agree with the OP's point. Maybe it's unlikely Apple would tweak battery size and perhaps the ultimate size of the phone, or maybe not. But I have to believe Apple could, technically, do it now if they wanted to--and probably keep the fit and finish of the phone identical to what it is now.
Personally I don’t want a thicker heavier iPhone. Battery life of XR and XS Max is great in my opinion, however the XS, like iP8, doesn’t last all day.
The replies here have no impact on what Apple has done or what Apple will do. I'd love a phone that has 4 months battery life, I really would. But I never get what I want.
Any of you watch Terra Nova - that short lived TV Series? Remember the main character's daughter had that tablet that was run on some battery that lasted FOREVER (like months and months and months) - but wasn't rechargeable.
Any of you watch Terra Nova - that short lived TV Series? Remember the main character's daughter had that tablet that was run on some battery that lasted FOREVER (like months and months and months) - but wasn't rechargeable.
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S10+ has a bigger battery and doesn't even weight as much as the XS Max.
That’s because the iPhone XS Max is made out polished stainless steel while the s10 is made from aluminum, a cheaper lighter metal.