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Why do you need 4K on a smartphone when it's beyond the ability of the human eye to detect such detail on a small screen? BTW science says that not me so don't shoot the messenger.

Because all my family have 4K TV's. And what's it got to do with you anyway?
 
Yes obviously that's the case. I guess my question is why is Apple able to make such a dramatic increase in battery size from the 6S to the 6S Plus but not from the SE to the 6S? The size difference seems to be pretty equal between them and they have the same variables (ie: screen size and resolution changes).

Because the SE and 6S have basically the same battery size while the Plus has double the battery size. To get the dramatic battery increases you want, the 6S would have have a larger battery.
 
Because all my family have 4K TV's. And what's it got to do with you anyway?
Don't bring your logic in here! That's actually the same reason I want the 4K as well. I get 4K in a smaller form factor and can view that content on my Retina Book or my 4K TV. It's not just about being able to view that on the phone itself. You can still view the content elsewhere, but having the option to take 4K video is very nice.
 
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That's actually the same reason I want the 4K as well. I get 4K in a smaller form factor and can view that content on my Retina Book or my 4K TV. It's not just about being able to view that on the phone itself. You can still view the content elsewhere, but having the option to take 4K video is very nice.

Not much use on your 'Retina Book' - there's this from a well know tech mag -
4K screen sizes are likely to stabilise at 55-inches and upwards. That's because as the screen size shrinks the advantage of having such a pixel dense display starts to diminish
 
Not much use on your 'Retina Book' - there's this from a well know tech mag -
4K screen sizes are likely to stabilise at 55-inches and upwards. That's because as the screen size shrinks the advantage of having such a pixel dense display starts to diminish
What on earth on you going on about? The content looks better on the retina book due to its higher than 1080p resolution display. So it's still more pleasant to look at 4K content on my laptop than on a normal display. I don't need a TV to notice the difference. On top of that, I am editing the video to later view on my 65" 4K TV on my PC (currently recording 4K on a Nexus 6P and it will be nice to be able to do so on a much smaller phone). I don't know what point you're trying to make. The bolding of the text was also extremely unnecessary. I can read without your help, but it doesn't change my desire to have a device that records at 4K. You don't need a 55 inch TV to notice 4K in general. I game on a 4K monitor that's 27". The difference between 1080p and 4K is not magically blurred because it's not 55 inches. If you're done trying to tout some sort of superior knowledge regarding 4K, you can be on your way. I have eyes. That's all I need to tell the difference. Thanks.

The point is not to view 4K video on the SE ... you can't ... it's a fourth the resolution. It's to later view the recorded and edited 4K content on either my 27" monitor or my 65" 4K TV. Many of my family members also have 4K TVs. It records 4K. That's all I need.
 
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Well that's my opinion based on having them both. If us and our toys don't amuse you - jog on somewhere else.

You too funny...6s not dead in the water. 6s+ even better

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SE has been really great for me. Been using it for 7 days now so have a pretty good idea of how the battery lasts in different scenarios for me. I never use low power mode - as I need my emails fetched as often as possible.

My use is very simple though - I just need a communication/music device - zero social media stuff etc.

I'm extremely diligent with all my settings for the program, and every app installed - and everything I do not need, or will never use are all disabled.

Average daily use for me is about 15 mins phone, 20 texts, 15 emails and 3 hours music (AAC files).

Over 24 hours I lose about 12% battery average.

(in the last 12 hours I'm down to 98% right now - half of that sleeping)

0-1% overnight.
2% every 2.5hours music (256 AAC)
1-2% for a 15 minute call (cell reception is poor and usually 1 or 2 dots on reception bar)

The rest is just emails and texts. So, not a lot of screen time :)

The quotes above from me were for a SE with a TSMC processor - this one has a Samsung and appears to use about 5% battery more per day with my average usage.

I could probably still get 5 days out of it (if for some reason I was nowhere near electricity :) which is good enough for me

 
The quotes above from me were for a SE with a TSMC processor - this one has a Samsung and appears to use about 5% battery more per day with my average usage.

I could probably still get 5 days out of it (if for some reason I was nowhere near electricity :) which is good enough for me


your usage doesnt look legit. just sayin. 47+ hrs stnandby and at 66%? you clearly charged the phone midway
 
your usage doesnt look legit. just sayin. 47+ hrs stnandby and at 66%? you clearly charged the phone midway

No charging in between [sorry actually I just plugged it in - then saw your message so unplugged to take this shot before charging again] - if you read how much I use my phone - then here - I just took this screenshot - my screen has only been on 18 minutes in the last 24 hours. As told, I'm no power user - I just need a few emails and texts and music and the occasional phone call.

 
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No charging in between [sorry actually I just plugged it in - then saw your message so unplugged to take this shot before charging again] - if you read how much I use my phone - then here - I just took this screenshot - my screen has only been on 18 minutes in the last 24 hours. As told, I'm no power user - I just need a few emails and texts and music and the occasional phone call.

demonstrates to me that usage is such an unreliable benchmark. your screenshot is a good ondicator in terms of standby duration
 
updated battery stats.

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i dont feel it has better battery life than the 6+ but definitely better than the 6
 
What on earth on you going on about? The content looks better on the retina book due to its higher than 1080p resolution display. So it's still more pleasant to look at 4K content on my laptop than on a normal display. I don't need a TV to notice the difference. On top of that, I am editing the video to later view on my 65" 4K TV on my PC (currently recording 4K on a Nexus 6P and it will be nice to be able to do so on a much smaller phone). I don't know what point you're trying to make. The bolding of the text was also extremely unnecessary. I can read without your help, but it doesn't change my desire to have a device that records at 4K. You don't need a 55 inch TV to notice 4K in general. I game on a 4K monitor that's 27". The difference between 1080p and 4K is not magically blurred because it's not 55 inches. If you're done trying to tout some sort of superior knowledge regarding 4K, you can be on your way. I have eyes. That's all I need to tell the difference. Thanks.

The point is not to view 4K video on the SE ... you can't ... it's a fourth the resolution. It's to later view the recorded and edited 4K content on either my 27" monitor or my 65" 4K TV. Many of my family members also have 4K TVs. It records 4K. That's all I need.

So throughout your rant you failed to notice that what was in bold was lifted from a respected tech mag placed in bold to differentiate it from my part of the post - standard practice. I could have put it in italics but no doubt that would have elicited a similar response. It would appear the experts are wasting their time though as you obviously know better than they. Perhaps there's a job opportunity for you there?
 
hes not using his phone i mean look at those Apps. 2nd is settings ...

And the first one is music (68%). It's really easy to have great battery stats just by playing music. It's counted as usage time but the screen is not even on. Everyone can double the "usage time" of the battery this way.

Of course, streaming music is another story.
 
Almost all the major specs seem to be the same and one would assume that you can fit a larger battery in a bigger phone. So what gives?
That's an easy question. The 6 design is larger than the 5, but also thinner and has a bigger screen to power. So both form factors have about the same battery life by design. When Apple designed the 6s with 3D Touch they actually had to shrink the battery size a little bit to make room for a Taptic Engine. Again you don't feel any difference from the smaller battery, because at the same time the A9 was also more power efficient then the A8 chip in the iPhone 6. Now comes the iPhone SE in the old 5 body and it doesn't have a Taptic Engine, so the battery is as big as it always was and meets a chip that is generations more efficient and suddenly it starts to show in longer battery life. The progress in energy consumption was always there, but Apple always used it for other things.
 

Interesting. That link says Apple tests web browsing battery time by using saved web pages and looking at those to test battery life. Wouldn't that be cheating because WiFi and mobile data aren't being used?

iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus browsed snapshot versions of 20 popular web pages and received mail once an hour.​
 
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